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Jocko Podcast • Jocko DEFCOR Network

Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.

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  • 485: We Are ALL Susceptible to Arrogance, Vice, and Villainy. The Hunn-Beating Proverb.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, host Jocko Willink explores the role of morality and ethics in personal growth and interpersonal relationships. He emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, humility, and forgiveness in overcoming mistakes and avoiding repeat errors.

    Willink also discusses the slippery slope of indulging in vices like drugs and alcohol, advocating for discipline and viewing failures as opportunities for growth. He examines the consequences of behaviors like arrogance, envy, and deceit, and advises on navigating relationships with transparency and understanding others' perspectives.

    Apr 9, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: Tighten Up Your Life.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles offer practical strategies for balancing a demanding schedule filled with work, training, and personal responsibilities. They recommend time-saving techniques like optimizing workouts, prioritizing key activities like family time, and embracing intense "sprint" periods that temporarily disrupt the balance of life.

    Their advice covers navigating transitions, managing exercise and fitness routines with limited time, and maintaining healthy habits even in the most demanding circumstances. Willink and Charles emphasize that while such periods may seem overwhelming, they are temporary. By making intentional choices and developing discipline, one can successfully navigate life's chaotic chapters.

    Apr 7, 2025

  • 484: It Might Not Go The Way You Want. With Navy SEAL Command Master Chief, Jim Foreman.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink explores the remarkable journey and career of Navy SEAL Command Master Chief Jim Foreman. The conversation delves into Foreman's formative experiences and singular determination that propelled him through the grueling challenges of SEAL training.

    Foreman shares insights from his extensive deployments, where he demonstrated exceptional tactical leadership and adaptability in diverse combat environments across Asia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. He also discusses the profound emotional toll of service, his own struggles with post-military life, and the role of art therapy in processing trauma. Throughout the discussion, Foreman and Willink emphasize the importance of self-care, camaraderie, and finding positive avenues for skill-sharing after transitioning from military service.

    Apr 2, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: How Long Would You Fight To Save Your Marriage?

    Struggling couples gain invaluable insight in this Jocko Podcast episode. With a focus on clear communication and alignment of long-term goals, Jocko Willink advises couples to assess if they are able to grow old together. He stresses the importance of taking ownership for past neglect, committing to improvement, and avoiding the temptation of new relationships.

    Willink and guest Charles provide strategies to establish open, empathetic dialogue, accommodate short-term emotional needs, and understand each partner's perspective. They encourage individuals to recognize past shortcomings, demonstrate commitment to positive change, and listen without assigning blame – key steps in saving a marriage.

    Mar 31, 2025

  • 483: Grayisms. Thoughts on Leadership That Apply Right Now. From Al Gray.

    In this Jocko Podcast episode, Jocko Willink examines the leadership philosophy of General Al Gray. The discussion centers on Gray's emphasis on responsibility, empowerment, and clear mission focus—traits he embodied through actions like taking direct accountability for an accident impacting his Marines. Willink dissects Gray's approach of decentralizing command while providing crucial intent, allowing officers and NCOs to adapt and take decisive action.

    The episode also highlights Gray's principled leadership style of prioritizing the mission and troop welfare over individual interests. Willink shares memorable "Grayisms" that capture Gray's mindset on accountability, cohesion, and cultivating a learning culture focused on warfighting readiness. Overall, the episode provides practical advice on leading effectively by embodying ownership, empowering subordinates, and keeping the greater good as the primary objective.

    Mar 26, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: What's Up With Military Recruiting, Recruiting Videos |

    On the Jocko Podcast, the host discusses current military recruitment challenges and strategies. He highlights the recent uptick in recruitment numbers under new leadership and emphasizes the need for authentic, inspirational messaging focused on realistic expectations and motivations.

    The host credits a guest's success in National Guard recruitment to applying effective leadership principles. He advocates for genuine recruitment messaging that conveys the realities of service without misrepresentation. Willink argues that only authentic messaging aligning with target audience motivations will attract those truly interested in serving.

    Mar 24, 2025

  • 482: Roll Up Your Sleeves and CHOP THAT S**T UP. With CSM Daniel Pinion.

    On this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Command Sergeant Major Daniel Pinion reflects on his journey from a hardworking youth in rural New Jersey to becoming a seasoned combat veteran. He recounts the unrelenting intensity of operations in Ramadi, Iraq, where his unit fought tirelessly alongside elite forces to retake the city from insurgents.

    Pinion opens up about the immense physical and emotional toll of witnessing immense loss and trauma. He emphasizes the importance of destigmatizing mental health support, sharing his own story of seeking counseling. Additionally, Pinion discusses honoring fallen comrades through various memorials and initiatives to ensure their sacrifices and legacies are never forgotten.

    Mar 19, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: The Value of Cadence. Worthless? Or Useful? | How Civilians Can Be Prepared for War

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink shares insights into the purpose and significance of cadences during military training and operations. He describes the humorous, crude lyrics sung by SEAL trainees to provide comic relief, while motivational cadences were used in more intense moments.

    Willink highlights how cadences fostered unity through shared culture and synchronized movement. He explores their practical benefits for marching and maneuvers, as well as their role in building camaraderie by connecting service members to military heritage. Drawing from personal experiences in the Navy SEALs and Army, Willink illustrates the unique bond forged through these shared chants and songs.

    Mar 17, 2025

  • 481: Deeds. Not Words. With Airborne Ranger, Will Bardenwerper

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Will Bardenwerper shares his experiences as an Army public affairs officer in Iraq and his subsequent journey into writing. He provides an insider's perspective on the intensity of military service and the disconnect between the military and civilian worlds.

    Bardenwerper reflects on his transition from the military to a career as an author, discussing the process of honing his storytelling skills and the themes explored in his books. His works delve into the human connections and shared experiences that bridge societal divides, contrasting the mythic status of American institutions with their grounded realities. The episode also touches on the modern digital landscape and its impact on well-being and interpersonal connections.

    Mar 12, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: You Might Be Worrying Too Much About Your Kids.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and guests explore the balance between protecting children and fostering their independence. They examine how excessive shielding can inhibit the development of resilience and self-reliance. The discussion highlights strategies for managing parental anxiety while encouraging age-appropriate risk and challenges to build life skills.

    Willink advises against transferring irrational fears to children, stressing the importance of teaching responsible risk navigation. He advocates for allowing children the autonomy to problem-solve and learn from experience as a means to prepare them for real-world challenges. The episode provides guidance on nurturing healthy self-sufficiency as children mature.

    Mar 10, 2025

  • 480: Learn To Read, Write, And Think.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles delve into the importance of writing skills for military leaders. They explore the writing process, from drafting and revising to proofreading and soliciting feedback, emphasizing its iterative nature in crafting clear and effective communication.

    The conversation also touches on the adaptability of the English language and its evolution over time. Willink and Charles highlight how writing fosters critical thinking and serves as a hallmark of leadership, enabling the articulation of visions, persuasive arguments, and motivating directives.

    Mar 5, 2025

  • 479: First Troops On The Ground In Afghanistan. With Green Beret Scott Neil

    In this Jocko Podcast episode, former Green Beret Scott Neil shares his experiences serving in the elite Task Force K-Bar, one of the first units deployed to Afghanistan after 9/11. Neil recounts his journey from rural Florida to becoming a Green Beret and the rigorous selection process he underwent. He details how Task Force K-Bar achieved a perfect operational success rate despite its diverse composition, overcoming obstacles like navigational challenges and unexpected civilian encounters.

    The episode also explores Neil's transition into the bourbon industry after retiring from the military. Neil discusses the challenges of starting Horse Soldier Bourbon, a fast-growing brand, despite having no prior experience in the field. From navigating complex regulations to continuously adapting strategies, Neil offers insights into building a successful bourbon business from the ground up.

    Feb 26, 2025

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  • Jocko Underground: How to Deal with Adult Bullies.

    When a coworker's behavior becomes increasingly inappropriate and offensive, the Jocko Underground podcast episode "How to Deal with Adult Bullies" provides guidance on addressing workplace harassment. Jocko Willink and Echo Charles advise on appropriate steps to take when a coworker's remarks escalate from crass to offensive comments about one's family.

    The podcast examines maintaining professionalism while asserting boundaries and standing up for oneself when faced with a toxic work environment. Willink and Charles discuss taking action through proper channels if management fails to provide adequate support against an abusive coworker. The episode sheds light on navigating this difficult situation and deciding when it may be necessary to leave an organization that enables such misconduct.

    Feb 24, 2025

  • 478: Be The Comprehensive Human The Moment Demands. Jason Wilson Pt.2

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jason Wilson advocates for a new masculine ideal - the "comprehensive man" - who embraces traditionally nurturing traits alongside strength and discipline. Wilson shares personal stories illustrating emotional openness and the importance of empathy, trust, and healthy emotional mastery.

    The conversation explores how comprehensive men foster strong family bonds through patience, understanding, and modeling order and self-care. Wilson and host Jocko Willink discuss nurturing well-rounded development in youth, emphasizing consistent training across disciplines and proper nutrition. The episode presents a holistic vision of masculinity centered on caring character, self-awareness, and mental fortitude.

    Feb 19, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: Finding No Joy and No Relief In Life. This is How You Find It.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink explores strategies for finding purpose and joy, even when facing significant life challenges. He highlights the importance of pursuing medical solutions diligently and working closely with doctors to devise effective treatment plans.

    Willink also emphasizes the value of adapting to limitations and embracing new paths. The discussion delves into cultivating resilience by embracing challenges, focusing on doable activities, and discovering unexpected sources of fulfillment. Ultimately, Willink encourages shifting one's focus outward to help others as a means of finding deeper meaning and purpose.

    Feb 17, 2025

  • The Debrief w/ Jocko and Dave Berke #32: Is The Minimum "Okay"?

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Dave Berke explore the value of understanding and accommodating employees who excel in their current roles without seeking advancement. They discuss respecting individual motivations, allowing team members to focus on work they find fulfilling rather than pressuring them into promotions.

    The conversation also dives into the importance of strategically building teams by pairing complementary strengths and weaknesses. Willink and Berke emphasize effective leadership approaches for managing employees content in their positions, stressing the need to adapt management styles and leverage individuals' talents over fixating on shortcomings.

    Feb 13, 2025

  • 477: "There's No Freedom In The Facade. With Martial Artist and Mentor, Jason Wilson

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, guest Jason Wilson shares his family's intergenerational trauma from racial violence, including the horrific lynching of his grandfather. Wilson recounts his own transformation from an angry youth to a compassionate mentor. He founded the Cave of Adullam Academy, which helps boys overcome trauma through martial arts and emotional resilience training.

    Wilson advocates for a redefined masculinity, moving away from traditional masculine ideals of suppressing emotion. Drawing from personal struggles, he emphasizes the importance of emotional openness and vulnerability as true strength. His nurturing yet honest approach aims to break cycles of trauma.

    Feb 12, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: What Should I Do With My Professional Life?

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles explore the realities of careers in physical and law enforcement fields. They address common misconceptions, acknowledging risks like higher stress levels, yet noting that many officers effectively manage challenges and maintain healthy personal lives.

    Willink emphasizes the importance of gaining firsthand experience before fully committing to a new career path. He suggests trying roles like reserve officer or volunteer firefighter, which provide valuable insights into a profession's daily rigors. The discussion also touches on the "grass is greener" phenomenon, cautioning against idealizing certain careers while overlooking the meaningful aspects of one's current work.

    Feb 10, 2025

  • 476: Dog Ain't Got Nuthin' For Ya. With Retired SEAL Harold "Dog" Underdown.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko and retired Navy SEAL Harold "Dog" Underdown explore Underdown's impressive military career spanning nearly three decades. Underdown recounts his path from the National Guard to becoming a SEAL, his combat deployments to global hotspots, and his leadership in critical training and advisory roles.

    The conversation also delves into Underdown's post-retirement entrepreneurial venture, Four Branches Bourbon. Underdown discusses the brand's origins, honoring his military roots through its unique blend of grains and philanthropic initiatives supporting the armed forces. Gain insight into a seasoned SEAL's journey through warfare and into the civilian world.

    Feb 5, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: The Correct Way a Female Should Improve Communication

    In this Jocko Podcast episode, former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink shares insights on effective leadership strategies in response to a caller's concerns about the challenges women face in male-dominated industries. Drawing from his extensive experience, Willink emphasizes the importance of building trust and respect through active listening, transparency, and a commitment to collective success over asserting authority.

    He advises leaders to adapt their communication approach to each team member's needs while adhering to core principles like humility and considering input. Willink underscores that admitting mistakes, crediting team efforts, maintaining integrity, and supporting personnel are vital for cultivating an engaged workforce that transcends gender biases or cultural barriers.

    Feb 3, 2025

  • 475: With Much Wisdom Comes Much Sorrow. The More Knowledge, The More Greif. With Oliver Anthony Music, Chris Lunsford

    In this episode of Jocko Podcast, Oliver Anthony Music shares his musical journey marked by overcoming adversity and addiction to pursue his passion for songwriting. Anthony reflects on the unexpected success of his song "Richmond" and the subsequent launch of his "Rural Revival" project, aimed at revitalizing struggling rural communities through music festivals and non-profit hubs.

    The conversation explores music's unifying power and Anthony's vision of artists as catalysts for positive change. He emphasizes the importance of empowering marginalized communities by providing resources to address societal issues locally and collaboratively, away from the digital world's distractions. Anthony's stories and initiatives highlight the transformative potential of grassroots movements rooted in artistic expression and community engagement.

    Jan 29, 2025

  • 474: Building More United Communities. With Force Recon Marine, Jake Harriman

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, host Jocko Willink delves into the remarkable story of Jake Harriman. Harriman recounts his upbringing on a West Virginia farm that instilled a sense of service, his Marine Corps tours in Iraq that led him to found Nuru International, an organization dedicated to combating extremism by sustainably alleviating poverty across vulnerable regions.

    Harriman then pivots to his latest initiative, More Perfect Union, which aims to bridge societal divides in the United States by fostering community engagement across diverse groups. Drawing inspiration from military tactics, the organization trains veterans to lead grassroots efforts focused on building trust and unity.

    Jan 22, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: How to Rebuild The Bridges You Burnt With Your In-Laws

    This episode of the Jocko Podcast delves into the complexities of navigating a partner's family, particularly when faced with confrontational behavior like a mother's erratic conduct or potential mental health issues. Jocko Willink advises on rebuilding fractured relationships through sincere apologies and relationship-building gestures that demonstrate commitment to the family's well-being.

    The discussion underscores the importance of emotional control and de-escalation tactics when confronted with difficult situations. Willink emphasizes the need to avoid escalating tensions and instead occupy the moral high ground through composure. By providing insights into managing clashes with a partner's family, the episode offers guidance on fostering trust, respect, and long-term success within the delicate family dynamics that come with a serious relationship.

    Jan 20, 2025

  • 473: Achieve The Intent In A Matter Best Fitting Reality. With Codey Gandy

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, host Jocko Willink interviews Codey Gandy, a former Marine and Leadership Instructor at Echelon Front. The conversation explores Gandy's upbringing, including his father's career as a police officer and the lessons this provided in discipline and leadership.

    Gandy shares insights from his Marine Corps training, highlighting how the military environment taught him skills like motivating teams, establishing boundaries, and communicating effectively amid volatile scenarios. He discusses his role at Echelon Front, where the company utilizes hands-on training exercises to challenge assumptions about leadership and promote growth in areas like teamwork and communication.

    Jan 15, 2025

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  • Jocko Underground: Breaking Up With Your Significant Other out of Boredom | The Value of Instructors VS Training Partners

    The opening segment of this episode from Jocko Podcast delves into the factors to consider when selecting a jiu-jitsu gym, such as the instructor's teaching style and lineage, the caliber of the student base, and the importance of quality sparring partners for improving one's skills. Jocko Willink and Echo highlight the merits of balancing proximity with the overall level of instruction and student talent at a gym.

    The second part of the episode explores a personal dilemma—whether to reconcile with an ex-girlfriend after a breakup caused by feelings of boredom rather than conflict. Willink examines the individual's lingering feelings for the caring and supportive ex, despite efforts to move on, and the complexities of potentially rebuilding the relationship through open communication.

    Jan 13, 2025

  • 472: Avoiding the Pressure Won't Get You Anywhere. W/ Matt Hasby

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Matt Hasby shares his journey from a troubled childhood to becoming a Navy SEAL and leader. Hasby recounts the challenges he faced during SEAL training, such as swimming and diving, and how he persevered through grit and adaptability.

    The episode explores Hasby's combat deployments to Ramadi and other high-intensity operations, where he honed skills like breaching and sniping. Hasby discusses his progression through leadership roles, highlighting the nuances of balancing operational urgency with team welfare. After retiring, Hasby now applies his combat-tested leadership principles at Echelon Front, helping clients develop organizational and individual leadership capabilities.

    Jan 8, 2025

  • Jocko Underground: Do You Have Emotional Discipline | Grown Kids Are Not Adults Sometimes

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, host Jocko Willink emphasizes the importance of cultivating emotional discipline. While physical discipline involves familiar routines, Willink argues that emotional discipline requires continuously monitoring one's emotional reflexes and learning to pause before reacting. He shares practical techniques like a "detachment protocol" and mental exercises to develop this crucial skill.

    Willink explains that emotional discipline enables logical decision-making, composure under pressure, and success in both personal and professional realms. Without it, unchecked emotions can sabotage goals and relationships. By introducing strategies for achieving emotional control, Willink provides a path to greater mental fortitude and self-mastery.

    Jan 6, 2025

  • 471: Better K-9s and Better Humans. With Mike Ritland

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Mike Ritland emphasize the importance of critical thinking, research, and open-mindedness when evaluating information and perspectives. They discuss addressing societal issues like addiction, mental health, and unhealthy lifestyles through personal accountability and responsibility.

    Willink and Ritland also share insights on effective parenting and child development, highlighting the value of allowing children to face consequences, take on responsibilities, and be exposed to diverse experiences. Additionally, they advocate for overcoming political and social division through civil dialogue, active listening, and removing emotion from discussions.

    Jan 2, 2025

  • "Now" Is an Important Word. And it Starts NOW.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink emphasizes the importance of taking action and embracing discipline in the present moment. He argues that by cultivating daily habits like waking early, exercising, and completing tasks diligently, individuals build the foundation for long-term success and freedom.

    Willink advocates prioritizing disciplined practices, even when uncomfortable, over momentary pleasures. He shares strategies for pushing through discomfort, such as learning to detach the mind during unpleasant tasks. By acting decisively and staying disciplined in each passing moment, Willink believes one can avoid the regret of missed opportunities and create opportunities for future success.

    Jan 1, 2025

  • Commitments Scare People. And This is a Commitment.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink addresses the challenge of making commitments, even small ones like a 30-day challenge. He criticizes the tendency to hedge commitments with qualifiers like "maybe" or "I'll try," arguing that full commitment is necessary for achieving significant growth and transformation.

    Willink then provides specific commitments and actions for those participating in his Def Reset program, such as removing junk food, investing in basic exercise equipment, and adopting daily disciplines like staying hydrated, completing burpees, and prioritizing tasks. While acknowledging the difficulty, Willink affirms that fully committing to these actions will yield substantial improvements in health, fitness, and overall wellbeing.

    Dec 31, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: Is My Girlfriend Abusing Me?

    In this episode of Jocko Podcast, the discussion centers around a caller seeking advice about a serious relationship issue: his girlfriend's severe mental health struggles. According to Jocko, the girlfriend suffers from bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and self-harm tendencies. Despite initial efforts at therapy, her condition has deteriorated, leading to frequent outbursts and threats to end the relationship.

    Jocko warns against marrying someone who exhibits such turbulent behavior. He advises witnessing at least five years of complete stability from the girlfriend before considering marriage, but expresses doubt about this possibility given the severity of her mental health issues. The conversation highlights the potential risks of compromising one's well-being and that of any future children by remaining in such a volatile relationship.

    Dec 30, 2024

  • 470: Don't Get Caught In The Crossfire in The Information War. With Jeremy Stern.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jeremy Stern shares his unconventional background and experiences that provide unique perspectives on warfare, diplomacy, and the spread of misinformation. Stern reflects on his family's resilience, his time as an EOD technician fighting ISIS, and navigating bureaucracy at the US Embassy in Berlin.

    His diverse roles, from the military to journalism, shape his insightful analysis of geopolitics and defense technology. Stern aims to inform readers about issues impacting American identity and history while challenging conspiracy theories through his work at Tablet magazine and the "What Really Matters" podcast.

    Dec 25, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: What is The Mark of a Man?

    On this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Willink and Echo delve into the notion of what it means to be a "manly" man. Rather than conforming to arbitrary physical traits, they posit that true manliness stems from positively contributing to society through acts of service. Whether aiding the underprivileged, mentoring youth, or pushing human potential through endeavors like exploration, what defines a man is dedicating oneself to uplifting others.

    Willink also provides insight into the nature of heroism. He explains that the most respectable acts are not about individual glory, but involve selflessly serving and protecting one's community. From pulling teammates from peril to safeguarding the oppressed, Willink asserts that the true mark of a man lies in one's commitment to supporting loved ones and upholding noble values.

    Dec 24, 2024

  • How To Reset For This Coming Year. DEF Reset PSA.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink introduces the Def Reset program, designed to instill discipline and healthy habits through a regimen of 9 daily practices. The program revolves around guided workouts, nutrition, and accountability within a supportive group.

    Willink emphasizes the power of consistent small steps and the "daily grind" in creating lasting change. The episode explores strategies for developing discipline across all areas of life—from waking early and prioritizing tasks to fostering gratitude and challenging oneself physically. With practical advice and an emphasis on accountability through the program's mobile app, Willink aims to help participants forge new positive habits and achieve their goals through incremental progress.

    Dec 23, 2024

  • 469: Dangerous Secret Missions. With Army Col (Ret) Bill Reeder.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Army Colonel (Ret.) Bill Reeder shares his experiences as a member of the elite 131st Surveillance Airplane Company during the Vietnam War. Reeder recounts his rigorous training as a Mohawk gunship pilot and the unique bonds he formed with his fellow pilots, forged through harrowing classified missions into hostile territory.

    Reeder delves into the 131st's top-secret operations over Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia and the advanced aircraft and tactics they employed, all while grappling with heavy casualties. He also discusses his subsequent capture, imprisonment, and torture, and how the ordeal reshaped his perspective on life upon his return home.

    Dec 18, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: Don't Try To Be A SEAL | Feeling Unappreciated in my Marriage

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink provides insights into the challenges of pursuing SEAL training. He offers a blunt assessment of the demanding process, highlighting the high attrition rates even for exceptional candidates. While acknowledging a young man's long-held dream to become a SEAL, Willink stresses the importance of having realistic expectations and backup plans.

    The episode also explores the value of a college education and its potential role in achieving one's goals. Willink emphasizes the need for flexibility, considering various alternative career paths should the aspiration to become a SEAL not materialize. Throughout the discussion, he underscores the formidable requirements and risks, including potential disqualifying injuries, that candidates must navigate to successfully complete SEAL training.

    Dec 17, 2024

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  • 468: Some Lessons Only Life Can Teach. With Sean Glass.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Sean Glass reflects on lessons learned from his military career as a Navy SEAL, sharing experiences in leadership roles and overcoming challenges that taught him humility and effective communication. He discusses applying principles like service, sacrifice, and trust to his personal and professional life after leaving the military.

    Glass also delves into his community involvement, entrepreneurial ventures like "The Forge" to instill virtues in boys, and the launch of his ethical beef company Primal Beef. He emphasizes priorities like responsible sourcing, clean ingredients, and tailoring products for dietary needs while partnering with fellow veterans in the food industry.

    Dec 11, 2024

  • 467: All It Takes Is All You Got. Risking it All For The People. With Chad Robichaux

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Chad Robichaux details his team's efforts in providing humanitarian aid and medical support to civilians affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine. He shares the challenges they faced, such as witnessing the devastating aftermath of the war and taking precautions against Russian special forces disguising themselves as aid workers.

    Robichaux also discusses the organizations involved in these humanitarian missions, including non-profits like Mighty Oaks Foundation, and their collaboration with local Ukrainian groups. Additionally, he reflects on his decision to allow his son Hunter to join the missions, witnessing his son's impactful work amidst dangerous situations.

    Dec 4, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: This Man At the Gym Sexually Assaulted my Female Friend. What to do?

    The Jocko Podcast grapples with a complex situation: The narrator's friend, a survivor of sexual assault in high school, has found her assailant training at a jiu-jitsu gym in their community. The episode explores the trauma of sexual assault and its lingering impact.

    The narrator weighs different courses of action, from confronting the perpetrator to reporting the assault to the authorities. But they wrestle with protecting their friend from further distress while also seeking justice. Jocko Willink advises carefully considering factors like the assault's severity, available evidence, and legal ramifications before determining the best path forward.

    Dec 2, 2024

  • 466: Some Lessons Are Learned By Getting Smacked In The Face. With Lt. James Lechner

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Lt. James Lechner analyze lessons learned from the failed Mogadishu operation and the successful counterinsurgency effort in Ramadi, Iraq. They discuss how the Mogadishu experience led to restructuring that enhanced inter-unit cooperation, established clear command structures, and promoted realistic training for special operations teams.

    Looking at Ramadi, the episode examines the importance of embedding personnel across units to foster understanding, the effectiveness of McFarland's collaborative leadership style that empowered lower commanders, and how decentralized command enabled tactical flexibility. The episode underscores the vital roles that strong, adaptive leadership and local autonomy played in the hard-won success against the insurgency.

    Nov 27, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: Recover From Trauma | Smashing Through Set-Backs

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, a listener shares their experience of enduring verbal and physical abuse as a child from their father, detailing the lasting impact on their self-worth and confidence. Jocko provides insight into the troubled mindset of the abusive parent, recognizing it as a reflection of their insecurities that they projected onto their child.

    He advises the listener to separate their father's hurtful words and actions from their own self-worth, encouraging forgiveness to free themselves from the burden of their upbringing. Though the listener has achieved success, Jocko recommends this as a path to overcome the grip of past trauma and regain a healthy sense of confidence.

    Nov 25, 2024

  • 465: Black Hawk Down. Revealed Details From Somalia. Col. James Lechner

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, retired Army Lieutenant Colonel James Lechner shares his experience with the Battle of Mogadishu in 1993, also known as the "Black Hawk Down" incident. Lechner provides insights into the rigorous military training that shaped him, including his time at The Citadel and Ranger School.

    Lechner recounts the complexities of the mission in Somalia, the unfolding of the intense urban battle, and the harrowing retreat through hostile areas. He reflects on the profound impact of the battle on survivors, highlighting the ethos of camaraderie and enduring military virtues such as discipline and sacrifice. Lechner also discusses key lessons learned, including the importance of thorough planning, flexible execution, and coordination between units.

    Nov 20, 2024

  • 464: Default Aggressive. Combat Ready Leadership From Estonia. With Estonian Spec Ops Soldier, Remo Ojaste

    This episode of the Jocko Podcast features Estonian special operations soldier Remo Ojaste. The summary recounts Ojaste's unlikely journey from reluctant military conscript to a pivotal role in building Estonia's contemporary military capabilities through his deployment in Afghanistan.

    It delves into Ojaste's personal transformation after leaving the forces: his struggles with gambling and finances, his encounter with Jocko Willink's teachings, and his embrace of principles like extreme ownership. The summary explains how Ojaste applied these lessons to rebuild his life, repay debts, and establish a successful leadership training company, Combat Ready, by fostering a positive culture empowered by Willink's philosophies.

    Nov 13, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: How to Get a Higher Salary | Get Your Kids In Line

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, the hosts explore the value of fostering meaningful conversations during family mealtimes. They consider how technology can spark children's curiosity and open the door to substantive discussions on topics outside the realm of celebrity gossip, such as sports or personal interests.

    However, the conversation also touches on the importance of seeking professional help to work through childhood trauma stemming from dysfunctional family dynamics. The hosts acknowledge that while individuals may initially resist seeking mental health services, qualified experts are necessary to properly address and overcome the lasting impacts of abuse.

    Nov 11, 2024

  • 463: Urban Warfare Perspective on Ukraine and Israel. With John Spencer

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, John Spencer, an expert on urban warfare, shares his insights on modern urban conflicts. He discusses his academic research and analyses of pivotal battles in cities like Mariupol, Sarajevo, and Mumbai. Spencer highlights the complexities adversaries face in urban environments, like the intricate tunnel networks built by groups like Hamas and their use of human shields and propaganda tactics.

    Spencer also delves into the challenges militaries encounter and strategies they employ in combating urban warfare, drawing from his advisory work and on-the-ground research into recent incidents like the October 2022 attacks in Israel. This episode provides an insightful look into the evolving landscape of urban warfare through the lens of Spencer's meticulous case studies and firsthand observations.

    Nov 6, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: How to Live in Peace, Now.

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink dives into the importance of finding balance in one's focus on the past, present, and future. He examines the pitfalls of dwelling excessively on past regrets or future anxieties, and advocates for cultivating a present-focused mindset through mindfulness techniques like breath counting.

    Willink and guest Echo Charles outline strategies for managing persistent negative thoughts, including identifying their root causes and engaging in physical activities like jiu-jitsu. They explore how such physical pursuits act as therapeutic outlets by demanding presence of mind, creating calming rhythms, and providing a positive release for negative emotions.

    Nov 4, 2024

  • 462: Leadership and Social Connections in Modern Warfare. With John Spencer

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, host and military veteran John Spencer reflects on his journey through the ranks, from a challenging youth to leading an underperforming infantry unit in Iraq. He underscores the paramount importance of strong leadership, discipline, and social bonds in molding a cohesive fighting force.

    The episode also delves into the lasting psychological impacts of combat. Spencer provides firsthand accounts that shed light on the struggles soldiers face, from processing traumatic events to managing mental health issues like depression and suicidal ideation—a sobering reminder of the immense personal toll of war.

    Oct 30, 2024

  • 461: A Reflection On Growing Up With Jocko as A Father. w Rana Willink

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Rana Willink shares her experiences growing up in the Willink household, where martial arts like jiu-jitsu and wrestling were ingrained from a young age. She recounts her early struggles with body image and an obsession with calorie counting. However, Rana's journey also reveals how she rediscovered her passion for jiu-jitsu and the pivotal role it played in her healing process.

    Jocko reflects on his approach to parenting, acknowledging the shift from initially pushing his children too intensely in training to eventually allowing them to explore their interests independently. The episode offers insights into Rana's personal battles and how the support of her family and the practice of martial arts helped her overcome challenges.

    Oct 23, 2024

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  • Jocko Underground: Perform Under High Stress | Confrontations On The Street

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles explore the broad notion of leadership. They share insights into framing leadership not as a position but as an opportunity to influence and empower others through daily interactions and collaboration.

    The conversation delves into the risks of confrontations, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing de-escalation strategies over trying to "win" an argument. Willink and Charles highlight the collective nature of human achievement, discussing how groundbreaking innovations arise from compounded individual efforts driven by effective leadership. They examine how recognizing the incremental progress and shared knowledge behind grand accomplishments can inspire proactive engagement.

    Oct 21, 2024

  • 460: IT'S NOT THE OPPS!!! Destruction Comes From Within

    On this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles explore the notion that internal conflicts and divisions within teams pose a greater threat than external pressures. Willink underscores the importance of identifying subtle signs of friction early on, like misaligned communication or antagonistic behavior, before they escalate into full-blown infighting that undermines the team's mission.

    The discussion delves into the human tendency to criticize and destroy rather than create, and how this propensity fuels internal divisions that can spread from teams to entire organizations and communities. Willink offers strategies for combating this destructive force, such as leaders modeling vulnerability, maintaining open-mindedness, and creating opportunities for dialogue that promote unity over individual interests.

    Oct 16, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: Should Coaches Be Able To Date Students? | In a Funk? Here's What To Do

    In this episode of the Jocko Podcast, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles explore effective ways to rebuild trust after disrespecting someone's time. They provide practical steps for making amends, such as sincerely acknowledging the mistake, offering tangible assistance to compensate for the lost time, and consistently demonstrating changed behavior over an extended period.

    The hosts delve into nuances like varying the approach based on the relationship's nature and the individual's preferences. Tailoring the effort shows genuine commitment to regaining trust. Ultimately, patience, adaptability, and persistent action are key to mending broken trust caused by time negligence.

    Oct 14, 2024

  • 430: Critical Nuances to Balancing The Dichotomies of Leadership.

    In the Jocko Podcast, host Jocko Willink and co-host Echo Charles explore the complexities of leadership and the importance of finding equilibrium in various management styles. Tackling topics that often confound even the most experienced leaders, the pair delve into the intricacies of micromanagement versus a hands-off approach, stressing the necessity for leaders to empower their teams while maintaining accountability. Through personal anecdotes and discussion, the episode guides listeners through the concept of a "focused but detached" leadership methodology, a method advocated by Willink for keeping strategic oversight without getting mired in the trivial.

    The episode further addresses the balance between high standards and flexibility, aggressive action versus recklessness, and the discipline required to foster effective teamwork without falling into rigidity. Willink's military experience shines through as he articulates the subtleties of proactive problem-solving and the fine line leaders must walk in showing concern for team members while achieving overarching mission goals. As they round up their discourse, Willink and Charles emphasize the critical nature of strong relationships, adaptability in the face of unexpected challenges, and the wisdom of aligning team actions with larger mission statements. This episode not only dissects the dichotomies within leadership roles but also offers actionable insights on harmonizing these contrasting dynamics.

    Mar 20, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: How To Get Your Significant Other On The Path

    Immerse yourself in the latest Jocko Podcast episode featuring Jocko Willink and Echo Charles, as they delve into an array of pivotal updates and advice. Discover the resilience of the martial arts community as they discuss the unfortunate fire incident at Victory MMA, including its aftermath and the inspiring efforts to continue providing training through a provisional gym. Join the speakers as they explore the importance of adaptability and community support in the face of such adversities.

    The episode also addresses a relatable listener concern about balancing a healthy, active lifestyle within a relationship where interests diverge. With his military leadership background, Willink offers unique insights on the significance of mutual respect and shared values in relationships, as well as the nuances of compromise versus compatibility. The conversation provides a poignant look at facing personal differences and determining the true foundation of a partnership.

    Mar 18, 2024

  • 429: How These Laws of Combat Leadership are The Framework for Leading Your Life

    Dive into the dynamic world of leadership with "Jocko Podcast" as host Jocko Willink, along with co-host Echo Charles, addresses the intricate art of leading in episode 429. With insights drawn from the rigorous discipline of martial arts, Willink presents leadership as a continuously evolving practice, emphasizing the importance of lifelong learning and relentless adaptability. He invites listeners to view leadership not just as a position but as a skill that requires constant polishing through education and feedback.

    In this episode, Jocko underscores the essence of fostering belief and commitment to a mission, driving home the point that true leadership goes beyond mere words—it is demonstrated through decisive actions guiding a team to victory. The conversation takes listeners through the strategies for maintaining clear and simple lines of communication, essential for successful execution, and explores the criticality of ego management. Willink elaborates on the concept of "Extreme Ownership," challenging leaders to embody responsibility and create a culture of accountability to empower their teams to thrive amidst challenges and change.

    Mar 13, 2024

  • Jocko Underground: How to Surround Yourself With The Best People - Best Questions Answered

    Dive into the world of character excellence with Jocko Willink and Echo Charles in the "Jocko Podcast," where they explore the intricate facets of building a strong moral compass and the influence of good company. In a discussion that traverses ancient wisdom and personal anecdotes, Jocko emphasizes traits such as honor, courage, and discipline, highlighting them as the cornerstone of personal development. Taking inspiration from the Warrior Kid Code, he offers practical advice on adopting behaviors that reflect a disciplined life.

    Jocko also taps into historical paradigms like the SEAL code, Viking laws, and the Bushido code, drawing parallels with modern leadership and responsibility. His narratives underline the organic process of cultivating character through authentic connections with commendable individuals and confronting life's challenges with integrity. Addressing issues like bullying, the podcast redefines strength as a tool for protection and justice, encouraging listeners to uphold values that lead to ethical decision-making and a life of principled integrity.

    Mar 11, 2024

  • The Debrief w/ Jocko and Dave Berke: Your Boss Thinks You Don't Show Enough Passion In Your Leadership

    Join Jocko Willink and Dave Berke in the latest installment of the Jocko Podcast as they delve deep into the nuances of improving leadership skills and fostering team success. The speakers address the critical importance of self-awareness for a leader and the significance of understanding how their behavior is perceived by others, notably by superiors. They discuss the delicate balance a leader must strike in showing passion and emotion in their role, ensuring that it aligns well with what the boss considers appropriate, while simultaneously being true to their leadership style.

    The conversation further explores the art of driving a team towards its collective goals, emphasizing the leader's role in empowering individuals through the delegation of leadership tasks and roles. Jocko and Dave suggest going beyond theory, pushing for real-life applications where team members can demonstrate their mettle. This episode is a valuable resource for those who aim to create a genuine environment of trust and growth within their teams, steering clear of inauthentic tactics, and instead paving the way for meaningful personal and team development.

    Mar 8, 2024