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Rachel Platten: “I Didn’t Sleep for 3 Days” Fighting Anxiety, Depression, and Hitting Rock Bottom

By Lewis Howes

In an open discussion about mental health, Rachel Platten reveals her harrowing battle with postpartum anxiety, depression, and dissociation. She details the crucial role of therapy, medication, and spiritual practices in her recovery journey.

Platten also shares insights into her creative process, describing how her music stems directly from her emotional experiences. The episode touches on balancing career ambitions with motherhood—a challenge Platten navigates by embracing a more grounded mindset focused on presence and purpose.

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Rachel Platten: “I Didn’t Sleep for 3 Days” Fighting Anxiety, Depression, and Hitting Rock Bottom

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Rachel's Mental Health Journey

Rachel Platten opens up about her postpartum battles with anxiety, depression, and dissociation, which involved months of insomnia, panic attacks, and feeling emotionally detached. She initially tried to ignore her emotions through manifestation and positive thinking but realized she needed to accept her reality.

Medication and therapy, particularly EMDR, were crucial in Rachel's recovery. While afraid of medication, she acknowledges it saved her life by providing "scaffolding" for her mental health. She learned to embrace her emotional nature as an artist.

Spiritual Awakening and Connection

During her darkest moments, Rachel had a profound spiritual experience where she felt connected to the divine. This sparked an intimate relationship with God where Rachel feels she can directly communicate and receive guidance.

Rachel has cultivated spiritual practices like journaling, meditation, and self-care to manage her emotions and stay connected to her inner wisdom. She no longer sees intermediaries like psychics as necessary, feeling she can access the divine connection herself.

Creativity, Music, and Mental Health

Rachel describes her music as arising from her pain and difficult experiences. Her songwriting deeply reflects her emotional state, with tracks like "Mercy" and "Fight Song" born from suffering.

Rachel has shifted to a more surrendered approach to her career, finding intrinsic value in her work rather than striving for hits. She hopes her new album brings healing to listeners.

Balancing Motherhood and Career

After stepping back from touring at her career's peak to focus on family, Rachel is finding harmony between parenting and music. Her husband's support and advice from Taylor Swift have helped manage the balance.

Though still figuring out motherhood, Rachel intends to pursue her career from a healthier, more balanced place. She plans to tour with newfound energy while savoring family time between intense work periods. Her new album reflects her journey of creating purposeful, spiritually connected art.

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  • You can create a personal "emotional blueprint" by mapping out your emotional patterns and triggers in a journal. Start by tracking your mood at different times of the day, noting what activities, interactions, or thoughts seem to correlate with changes in your emotional state. Over time, this can help you identify patterns and triggers for negative emotions, allowing you to develop proactive strategies to manage them.
  • Develop a "spiritual toolkit" that includes various resources and practices to foster a deeper connection with your spirituality. This might include books, podcasts, music, or art that inspire you, along with a list of practices such as nature walks, contemplative reading, or volunteer work that make you feel more connected to a higher purpose or sense of divinity.
  • Experiment with "creative reflection sessions" where you set aside time each week to engage in an artistic activity that mirrors your current emotional journey. This could be painting, writing poetry, composing music, or any other form of creative expression. The goal is not to produce a masterpiece but to use the creative process as a means of reflecting on and processing your emotions.

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Rachel's mental health journey, including experiences with anxiety, depression, and postpartum challenges

Rachel Platten shares her deeply personal journey with mental health, including battles with anxiety, depression, and the various challenges she faced during the postpartum period.

Rachel describes her struggles with anxiety, depression, and postpartum mental health issues, including insomnia, panic attacks, and dissociation.

Rachel's experience of postpartum depression and anxiety encompassed a plethora of symptoms such as long nights of insomnia, panic attacks, and dissociation. Rachel acknowledged her struggle with hormonal imbalances after giving birth, which contributed to a cascade of anxieties, from career uncertainties to financial worries, to family health issues. These culminated in chronic pain, migraines, and an emotional detachment from her body.

Rachel recalls being in deep pain and suffering, crying out for help on the floor of her studio. She was battling, angry at God, and raging against her condition. Advised to take benzodiazepines to sleep and SSRIs for support, Rachel was petrified of taking medication but realized they provided the much-needed relief to help her sleep after months of insomnia.

Rachel initially tried to "spiritually bypass" her negative emotions through positive thinking and manifestation, but realized this approach was unhealthy.

In her struggle, Rachel initially resorted to "spiritually bypassing" her negative emotions through positive thinking and manifestation—a common but sometimes unhealthy practice in places like Los Angeles. However, this led to repressing feelings until she realized no amount of manifesting could push away the negative thoughts.

Rachel speaks about the importance of radical acceptance of one’s reality and engaging in practices like Tara Brach's RAIN—recognize, allow, investigate, nurture—to process emotions. She emphasized the necessity of saying "yes" to her condition, learning to acknowledge and release her emotions, whether through crying or screaming.

Medication and professional support, including therapy and EMDR, played a crucial role in Rachel's recovery.

An essential part of Rachel's recovery was professional support, including therapy and EMDR, which helped her process suppressed emotions like ...

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Rachel's mental health journey, including experiences with anxiety, depression, and postpartum challenges

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  • Create a personal emotion processing toolkit by gathering resources like guided meditations, journal prompts, and a list of local therapists specializing in EMDR or similar therapies. This toolkit can be a go-to for moments of emotional overwhelm, ensuring you have immediate strategies to help navigate difficult feelings.
  • Start a creative project that channels your emotional experiences, such as painting, writing poetry, or composing music, to explore and express your feelings in a tangible form. This can serve as both a therapeutic outlet and a way to transform personal challenges into something meaningful.
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Rachel's spiritual exploration and connection with the divine

In her journey through difficult times, Rachel Platten encountered a powerful spiritual experience that not only transformed her emotional well-being but also her relationship with the divine.

After her breaking point, Rachel had a powerful spiritual experience where she felt a profound presence and connection to something greater than herself

Rachel Platten narrates her moment of deep despair, finding herself on the floor of her studio at 2 a.m., screaming for mercy. It was then that an unexplainable presence comforted her and a song named "Mercy" came through her. This encounter with a distinct presence led her to believe that beyond her pain there was something larger at play in the world - a connection to the divine. She expresses this transformative moment as the start of her hunger for spiritual connection and dialogue with God. Platten reflects on how, during her darkest moments, music flowed continuously through her and she felt God was using her, giving her suffering a reason and sparking a search for divine signs.

This experience led Rachel to develop a deeply personal, intimate relationship with God/the divine, where she feels she can directly communicate and receive guidance

Two years after her breaking point, Rachel describes her relationship with the divine as "really intimate and great." She experiences her spiritual relationship as a "centered you that's one with God and one with everything," expressing how God has become her comfort and guide. Rachel went from imploring God to show Himself to feeling a personal and direct channel to communicate with the divine. She confirms that her rapport with God now transcends the need for intermediaries.

Rachel now relies on spiritual practices like journaling, meditation, and "re-parenting" herself to manage her emotions and stay connected to her inner wisdom

Rachel has cultivated a spiritual practice that keeps her grounded and emotionally resilient. Journaling is part of her routine where she lists down her stresses and fears, contrasting them with "God's job," humorously recording what she's entrusted to God and accepting outcomes as they unfold, including providing metaphorical stickers to God's 'completed' tasks. This practice reflects her profound faith in divine guidance.

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  • While personal spiritual experiences can be profound and transformative, they are subjective and may not be universally applicable or verifiable.
  • The belief in a direct connection to the divine is a matter of personal faith and may not align with the doctrines or beliefs of organized religions that emphasize the role of clergy or sacred texts as intermediaries.
  • Relying solely on personal intuition and inner wisdom for guidance can sometimes lead to confirmation bias, where one may interpret experiences in a way that confirms pre-existing beliefs.
  • The concept of "re-parenting" oneself, while beneficial in fostering self-compassion and emotional resilience, may not be a substitute for professional therapy or counseling in cases of severe emotional distress or mental health issues.
  • Journaling and meditation are effective practices for many, but they may not work for everyone, and suggesting that they are universally beneficial could overlook individual differences in coping mechanisms and ...

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  • Create a personal sanctuary space in your home where you can engage in quiet reflection or meditation to foster a sense of connection with something greater. Choose a corner or a room that feels peaceful, add items that are meaningful to you, such as photos, candles, or natural elements, and use this space daily to sit quietly, breathe deeply, and open yourself up to the possibility of experiencing a profound presence.
  • Start a "dialogue diary" where you write letters to the divine or your higher self as a way to explore your spiritual questions and feelings. Treat this diary as a safe, non-judgmental space to express your deepest thoughts and concerns, and write regularly as if you are having a back-and-forth conversation with a wise, compassionate entity.
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The intersection of Rachel's creativity, music, and emotional/mental state

Rachel's candid discussion about her journey as a songwriter and new mother reveals the deep connection between her songwriting, music, and personal emotional and mental health. Her creative process is not only a reflection of her emotional state but also a means of teaching and helping others to accept and love themselves.

Rachel's songwriting and music have been deeply intertwined with her emotional and mental health journey.

Rachel describes her art as being born from her pain, acknowledging that the most difficult moments in her life have often led to her most powerful and meaningful creative work. Her songs reflect an emotional range that stems from these experiences. For instance, her track "Mercy" was born out of a night of desperation in her studio, showcasing her ability to transform deep personal struggles into art. Moreover, her breakout hit "Fight Song" was not the product of a "chill experience," but emerged from a place of suffering, highlighting the relationship between Rachel's psychological state and her music.

Rachel has learned to approach her creativity and music-making from a place of surrender and trust, rather than striving or attachment to outcomes.

Rachel now views her musical career differently than she did when striving for hits like the number one song in the world—an achievement she likens to capturing "magic in a bottle." She takes pride in her current work for its intrinsic value, rather than its potential to yield specific outcomes. This indicates a profound shift in her attitude toward her music; it has become a "vehicle" for healing and connection rather than a means to garner external v ...

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  • While Rachel's music is a reflection of her emotional journey, not all artists may find that their emotional state directly influences their creative output; some may compartmentalize or separate their personal experiences from their work.
  • The idea that art born from pain is more powerful or meaningful could be challenged; some might argue that art created in moments of happiness or neutrality can be equally profound and impactful.
  • The notion that surrender and trust are more beneficial approaches to creativity than striving for outcomes could be debated; some artists might find that having clear goals and aspirations is crucial for their motivation and success.
  • Valuing work for its intrinsic value rather than its potential for external validation is a noble perspective, but it might not resonate with all artists or industries where commercial success is a significant measure of achievement.
  • The concept that music should serve as a vehicle for healing and connection might be too narrow; some might believe that music can also be created for pure entertainment, experimentation, or personal expressio ...

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  • You can channel your own emotional experiences into a creative hobby like journaling or painting, using the process as a form of self-therapy and personal expression. Start by setting aside a few minutes each day to express your feelings through words or colors without judging the outcome, focusing on the act of creation as a way to process and understand your emotions.
  • Create a playlist of music that resonates with your personal journey, and use it as a backdrop for reflection or meditation. Choose songs that mirror your own range of emotions, from joy to sorrow, and allow yourself to fully experience the feelings they evoke, fostering a deeper connection with your inner self.
  • Engage in small acts of kindness ...

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Balancing Rachel's musical career with her role as a mother

Rachel Platten reflects on her journey as a mother and an artist, discussing the conscious decisions she's made to balance her family life and her musical career.

Rachel made the conscious choice to step back from touring and maintaining her musical career at its peak in order to focus on her family and healing.

Rachel acknowledges the sacrifices and challenges of parenting, highlighting the complexity and the extremes of different styles that impact children's development. She shares her experiences with "gentle parenting" and setting boundaries, reflecting on the surprises of motherhood, especially the challenging leap from one child to two which she describes as a "shit show." Rachel is candid about her commitment to raising her children with privilege responsibly, ensuring they don't grow entitled.

Rachel made the choice to step back from music, a decision that she’s proud of, even though it meant stepping away from touring when her career was at its peak. This decision came after achieving the number one song in the world with "Fight Song" and starting a family. She discusses the importance of mothers feeling empowered to make the right choices for their families, even if it means a temporary hit to their careers. Rachel indicates the delicate act of balancing an identity as a mother alongside her musical aspirations and is content with where she is now.

As Rachel returns to her musical career, she is doing so from a place of greater balance, self-acceptance, and inner peace.

With her oldest child only five years old, Rachel is still figuring out the kind of mother she wants to be. She is finding harmony between setting firm boundaries for her children and managing her emotions without yelling, maintaining a household that doesn't endorse it. Despite the initial thought that motherhood would stifle her creativity, Rachel found that it expanded, leading to a transmutation of the wide range of motherhood emotions into her music.

Rachel’s husband has started working for her, alleviating some pressure and contributing to the household income. At the same time, her friend Ta ...

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  • You can create a "Family-First" jar where you write down activities or goals that prioritize family time, and each week, randomly select one to focus on. This helps integrate the concept of prioritizing family in a tangible and fun way, ensuring you're consciously making space for family amidst other commitments. For example, one slip might say "Picnic in the park," encouraging you to set aside an afternoon for quality family time.
  • Develop a personal energy management plan by tracking your daily activities and energy levels for a month. Use this data to identify patterns and plan your schedule around your natural energy highs and lows, much like managing energy and time effectively. For instance, if you notice you're most energetic in the mornings, schedule your most demanding tasks then and save low-energy tasks for the afternoon.
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