In this episode of The School of Greatness, Neil Strauss—an expert on cheating and infidelity in relationships—joins host Lewis Howes for an insightful discussion. They explore the motivations behind cheating, its cyclical nature, and the challenges of rebuilding trust. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of open communication, active listening, and establishing clear relationship boundaries from the outset.
Furthermore, Strauss and Howes delve into personal growth and healing from childhood traumas that can manifest in adult relationships. They examine manipulation tactics, such as cycles of reward and punishment, and provide strategies for maintaining self-awareness and recognizing warning signs. Throughout, the episode offers valuable insights into fostering healthy, secure relationships.
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Neil Strauss highlights the cyclical nature of cheating - after being caught, cheaters often vow to regain security, only to potentially rebel again once they feel safe. Strauss notes cheaters often lack remorse until caught, driven by desires like freedom or feeling their partner is withholding something.
While cheaters can engage in self-work after infidelity, Strauss questions whether the relationship can survive the betrayal. Rebuilding trust takes time and commitment, and he refutes cheating as protective, calling it avoidance of uncomfortable feelings.
Strauss and Howes emphasize open communication as key, especially about discomforts. Establishing clear agreements upfront prevents future issues, like Howes' rule of only entering relationships where both agree to work on themselves in therapy.
Active listening without defensiveness is crucial. Strauss highlights understanding your partner's perspective, while Howes shares an agreement to avoid difficult talks late at night.
Forming a men's group for sharing vulnerabilities and feedback has aided Strauss' personal growth.
Strauss and Howes explore how childhood attachment wounds manifest in adult relationships. Recognizing parental dynamics, like enmeshment where children care for parents' needs, is important. Understanding these issues' effects is the first step.
Committing to continuous self-reflection is necessary for lasting change. Feeling secure within oneself reduces susceptibility to manipulation, versus seeking validation externally.
Strauss details how some are trained to seduce and control through psychological tactics like "circles of hell" - reward and punishment cycles. Exploiting vulnerability, especially during intimacy, is common.
Maintaining self-awareness and boundaries counters manipulation. Trusting instincts and seeking external perspectives from trusted friends can reveal warning signs.
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A candid discussion with Neil Strauss reveals a complex landscape of cheating in relationships, shaped by cycles of betrayal, self-work, and the pursuit of personal integrity.
Neil Strauss, admitting to past infidelity, outlines a cycle triggered by cheating: individuals, fearful of abandonment post-discovery, vow to do whatever it takes to regain a sense of security. However, once they feel safe, they may begin to chafe against that very security, potentially leading to repeat offenses.
Strauss noticed that the remorse from cheaters often surfaces only after being caught. Cheating can spring from a desire for freedom or a response to feeling suffocated in a relationship. He describes how people might cheat to reconnect with themselves or because they feel their partner is withholding something, placing them in what he calls a "victim child position." Strauss highlights the lack of open communication and the propensity to cheat as a self-serving act.
Strauss opens up about his own journey through rehab and personal work to confront his reasons for cheating. While cheaters can engage in deep personal work to understand why they betrayed their partner, the relationship itself might not survive the trauma inflicted by infidelity.
Repairing a relationship after infidelity requires trust, which can only be rebuilt gradually through time and commitment. S ...
Cheating and infidelity in relationships
Strauss and Howes discuss the foundations of a healthy relationship, emphasizing the importance of communication and setting clear agreements.
Open and transparent communication is identified as a cornerstone of healthy relationship dynamics. Strauss insists on the need for emotional maturity and adept communication, especially in non-monogamous relationships. He describes the unhealthy scenario where one partner consents to an open relationship against their personal feelings, which indicates a lack of honest communication.
Strauss advocates for an ongoing conversation within relationships that allows them to evolve as people change. This includes openly discussing changes in dynamics, such as the example he gives of an engineer and his wife adjusting their relationship during her menopause. Strauss also notes that dishonesty often stems from an unwillingness to address a partner’s emotional response rather than a genuine desire to protect them.
Furthermore, Strauss emphasizes the need for actions within a relationship to be healthy for all entities involved. He implies that this involves setting clear agreements and boundaries. Cheating, he specifies, is defined by acting outside these mutually agreed-upon rules. Howes shares his personal rule of not entering a relationship unless both parties are willing to work on themselves and create agreements in therapy. This is exemplified by his fiancee Martha agreeing to create clear early agreements, demonstrating mutual understanding.
Strauss points out the significance of understanding one’s partner's processing style and actively listening without defensiveness to ensure constructive communication. Howes echoes this by sharing an agreement made in therapy to not have challenging discussions after 10 p.m., highlighting the need for consideration of each other’s perspectives and well-being.
Healthy relationship dynamics and communication
Neil Strauss and Lewis Howes discuss the deep-seated issues stemming from childhood and their manifestations in adult life, highlighting the importance of recognizing and addressing past traumas and the challenges of seeking internal validation.
Strauss and Howes explore the concept of childhood wounds, suggesting that relational wounds typically occur in relationships, such as those with parents. Strauss mentions that understanding parental dynamics is crucial for personal growth and healing, rather than being about blaming the parents. Howes shares his own experiences of not feeling loved by his parents and dealing with sexual abuse, leading to feelings of uncertainty and hyper-vigilance.
Strauss discusses enmeshment trauma, where children take care of parents' emotional needs, leading to maturity and independence issues. Strauss also shares a revelation from therapy that his mother's treatment of him greatly affected his personal relationships.
The conversation delves into how these childhood issues manifest in adult relationships, with Strauss mentioning that people who had enmeshed parental relationships might feel smothered in romantic relationships. Likewise, abandonment issues can fracture an individual’s personality and drive behaviors later in life. Strauss suggests that individuals who are enmeshed often end up seeking validation through their capacity to help or save their partners, similarly to how they did with their enmeshing parents.
Strauss emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and self-reflection. He notes that simply being aware of one's issues is the first step; actively working on them is crucial for personal growth. Strauss and Howes agree that healing is a gradual process requiring integration over time. They advise looking to see if individuals who show signs of enmeshment are aware of it and whether they are taking steps to address it.
The hosts discuss the challenges and rewards of finding security and acceptance within oneself instead of seeking external validation.
Strauss notes that indiv ...
Personal growth and healing past traumas
Lewis Howes and Neil Strauss discuss the potent tactics of manipulation and persuasion used in intimate relationships, with Strauss detailing how certain individuals, such as spies, are trained to seduce and control others through psychological maneuvering.
In the podcast "To Die For," a conversation with a female Russian spy reveals troubling insights into the training she received to manipulate men. The spy's targets are approached with calculated charm; posture, clothing, and makeup are all part of a trained strategy to induce attraction and closeness without saying anything.
Neil Strauss speaks about manipulation tactics used to embed addiction into people's psyches, likening them to "circles of hell," which oscillate between punishment and reward. The spy learned these methods to entrap her targets, whereby positive attention is provided for compliance, and withdrawal or emotional distance is used as a punishment for disappointments.
This manipulation extends to leveraging a person's vulnerability, especially during intimate moments. The training the spy received even included how to perform sexual acts that would leave the recipient craving more, harvesting the vulnerable state to gain information or influence behavior.
Strauss and Howes further explore the insidious techniques of influencing someone through emotional exploitation. An example is given of a woman from an embassy who, seduced by a person she believed to be a beacon of world peace, was actually manipulated into betraying her country by providing information to Russian interests. The recruiter used the woman's vulnerability and desire to contribute to a good cause for nefarious purposes.
Neil Strauss underlines the necessity of maintaining healthy boundaries and self-awareness to counteract manipulative behavior. He talks about the role of qualified external perspec ...
Manipulation, persuasion, and influence in relationships
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