According to psychologist Stuart Ablon in this episode of The Mel Robbins Podcast, challenging behaviors stem not from lack of willpower but from deficits in skills like communication and self-regulation. Ablon introduces a three-step collaborative problem-solving framework to address such behaviors across ages and contexts.
He proposes actively listening without judgment, openly sharing individual perspectives, and collaborating to find mutually beneficial solutions. The guest and host discuss how this empathetic, skill-building approach can foster productive dialogue and tackle issues in relationships, parenting, workplaces, and more.
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According to Stuart Ablon, challenging behaviors stem from deficits in skills like language, attention, and self-regulation - not from willpower or motivation. He suggests building these skills through collaborative problem-solving can address such behaviors across all ages.
Ablon believes individuals behave challengingly due to lacking skills to handle situations, rather than choosing to misbehave. He identifies deficits linked to thinking skills, like communication and emotional regulation, as contributors. Mel Robbins adds that trauma can hinder skill development.
Whether children or adults, Ablon notes the same skill gaps - in areas like communication and impulse control - can lead to inappropriate behaviors for that age. Improving these skills is possible, even for adults.
Ablon emphasizes actively listening without judgment and restating concerns to show authentic understanding. This creates a safe environment for collaboration.
After understanding the other party's viewpoint, communicate your own worries and goals - not solutions - to ensure both sides are represented.
With both perspectives on the table, brainstorm potential solutions addressing both parties' needs through genuine teamwork, not unilateral plans.
While details vary, Ablon and Robbins highlight these core principles - empathy, collaborative problem-solving, and skill-building - can address challenging behaviors across contexts, from parenting to workplace conflicts or family relationships.
Regardless of the specific situation, this approach's foundational steps of listening, understanding different viewpoints, and working together on solutions can be applied, though tailoring to unique dynamics is key.
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According to Stuart Ablon, challenging behaviors can often be attributed to deficits in certain skills, rather than a lack of motivation or willpower. He suggests that rather than misbehaving, individuals may struggle to manage their thoughts, emotions, and actions effectively because they lack the necessary skills.
Ablon discusses the idea that individuals with challenging behaviors are doing the best they can with the skills they have at that moment to handle what the world is throwing at them. He identifies areas of deficit largely linked to thinking skills within the prefrontal cortex, such as language and communication skills, attention and working memory, and emotion and self-regulation. Ablon suggests that by identifying what skills the individual is struggling with and collaborating with them, they can help build those skills through problem-solving.
Ablon asserts that the same skills-based approach can be used to address challenging behaviors in people of all ages, emphasizing that specific skill deficits contributing to such behaviors are consistent across different age groups. Mel Robbins also remarks that the lack of development of certain skills can be due to various forms of trauma, such as racism, poverty, or mental health issues. Ablon points out that punitive reactions to challenging behavior only escalate the problems because stress hinders skill development, leading to worsening behavior.
Ablon notes that a skill like impulse control, which prevents a person from acting on their first instinct, is a critical part of human behavior management. He argues that punishment is ineffective for individuals who lack good impulse control because they are not able to consider the consequences of their actions.
The skills-based approach to understanding and addressing challenging behaviors
Stuart Ablon offers insights into a three-step collaborative problem-solving process designed to approach difficult situations with empathy, understanding, and collaboration.
According to Ablon, empathy is the first and most crucial ingredient of the collaborative problem-solving process. It requires actively listening to the other person's perspective and concerns without judgment and refraining from imposing your preconceptions.
Ablon emphasizes the importance of being a detective to truly understand the other side, approaching the conversation with statements like "I just want to understand" or "I know there must be an important reason for [behavior]." He points out that empathy is a powerful human regulator that can positively affect one's physiological state—such as blood pressure and heart rate—by making them feel understood.
Ablon describes reflective listening as restating what the other person has said in your words, assuring them that you genuinely understand without merely mimicking their words. Providing reassurance involves statements such as "I know there must be good reasons why you haven't [taken action]," which helps uncover the concerns behind undesired behaviors.
After fully understanding and reflecting the other person's perspective, the next step is to share your own concerns and perspectives in a way that encourages collaboration rather than just pushing solutions.
Ablon states that it's crucial to communicate worries and the reasons for initiating the conversation without jumping to solutions. For example, if concerned about someone's well-being due to depression, it's important to express worries about their overall state rather than dictating steps they should take.
Both sides of the problem should be on the table before trying to solve it, which means that both the adult's and child’s concerns should be understood and respected. This means inviting the child to understand the adult's perspective as well and making them a helper in the process, laying the groundwork for genuine collaboration.
The final step is to brainstorm and evaluate potential solutions that address the needs o ...
The 3-step collaborative problem-solving process
Ablon and Mel Robbins introduce a skills-based approach to behavior challenges that can be readily applied to a variety of relationships and situations, suggesting it's not limited to specific groups or settings.
Ablon mentions the application of this approach to real-life problems, implying that it can be utilized in various relationships and situations, as evidenced by Mel Robbins’ personal experiences with her husband's depression and friends addressing adult children's mental health or eating disorders. Ablon also discusses finding collaborative solutions for parents dealing with adult children who are not economically self-sufficient.
Dr. Ablon emphasizes that the strategies he has developed for dealing with challenging behavior are appropriate for any relationship. The approach to understanding challenging behavior is valuable in diverse settings, from kids with trauma histories in residential treatment to correctional facilities, as well as in homes.
Ablon suggests that his proposed problem-solving approach can be used with "anybody in your life," indicating broad applicability. The speaker mentions that the problem-solving approach can be applied by anyone, such as parents or a manager at work. This approach's principles of empathy, collaborative problem-solving, and continuous skill-building are consistent across different scenarios and relationships, as observed by Mel Robbins, who speaks of its application to a range of contexts.
The hosts delve into how the approach must be adapted to the unique dynamics and needs of each relationship. Ablon and Robbins illustrate its universality, showing that it’s as applicable to a child refusing to get out of bed as it is to someone with an eating disorder resisting treatment.
Ablon illustrates the adaptability of the approach's principles across various situations, such as with elderly parents' screen time issues. Mel Robbins also reflects on how applying these principles can change familial dynamics and patterns across contexts. They note that while the process details may vary, the underlying ...
Applying this approach to various relationships and situations
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