In this episode of The Mel Robbins Podcast, Robbins and Dr. Alok Kanojia explore how technology platforms are engineered to captivate attention, often fostering addictive behaviors and hijacking the brain's natural reward systems. They examine the mechanisms employed by these companies to maximize user engagement, including infinitely scrolling content, biometrics for frictionless access, and a relentless stream of fleeting gratification that can diminish our ability to focus and remain emotionally present.
The episode delves into the consequences of excessive tech use, such as the erosion of self-awareness, emotional numbing, and the potential for a disjointed virtual identity disconnected from one's authentic self. Robbins and Kanojia offer strategies to regain control, including establishing boundaries, facilitating emotional processing through tech-free routines, and creating barriers to mindless consumption.
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Mel Robbins and Dr. Alok Kanojia discuss how technology companies engage in an "attention marketplace," competing to maximize user engagement. Kanojia explains this continuous attention funnels profits but triggers neurological processes that hijack natural reward systems.
Dr. Kanojia notes tech platforms are designed to control time spent using them, monetizing user attention. Robbins adds excessive use can diminish focus, motivation, and emotional connection as advancement outpaces our brains' ability to adapt.
Kanojia says engaging with technology activates dopaminergic brain circuits linked to pleasure, providing fleeting hits of gratification. Repeated overuse conditions the brain to crave constant stimulation, making prolonged focus without rapid rewards difficult.
Kanojia and Robbins explore how technologies are engineered to capture attention, reducing barriers between impulse and usage. Biometrics for instant access and infinitely scrollable content discourage focused consumption.
Robbins highlights sophisticated app development seizing attention. Kanojia notes reduced effort required - face ID locks users into engagement cycles. Once viewing content, users remain for extended periods.
Kanojia explains how platforms like TikTok necessitate minimal active focus, with users able to dismiss content within seconds, fostering constant scrolling without concentration.
The integration of lives with technology makes disengaging difficult. Kanojia and Robbins warn of a risk in losing self-awareness and internal motivation due to the enveloping nature of tech.
Kanojia examines how excessive tech use diminishes identity, numbs emotions, and impairs presence in the real world.
Heavy reliance can lead to a "virtual" identity disjointed from authentic thoughts and feelings. Robbins adds that emotional numbing via tech undermines the self-concept.
Technology allows avoidance of negative emotions but prevents healthy processing. Kanojia says lack of reflective time yields unprocessed "mail" accumulation, functioning on "autopilot."
The experts suggest strategies to establish boundaries and regain control over tech consumption.
Kanojia advises removing biometrics, separating from devices and uninstalling addictive apps to increase access effort. Robbins highlights distancing from phones during work/sleep.
Kanojia stresses the importance of tech-free mornings and screenless pre-bed routines. He recommends tolerating boredom, which allows mental resets, and activities like pacing to process lingering emotions.
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Mel Robbins and Dr. Alok Kanojia delve into how technology addiction is affecting our brains, shaping our perceptions, and even impacting our identities.
Dr. Alok Kanojia, also known as Dr. K, discusses how technology companies are engaging in an “attention marketplace.” They recognize that our attention can be bought and sold, which directly correlates with their profits. Dr. K emphasizes that these platforms are competing for our awareness and are designed to control how much time we spend on them, with the expressed intent of monetizing the attention users provide.
Mel Robbins touches on the affective aspect of technology addiction. Specifically, she mentions the "like" button on social media, suggesting it can influence our self-perception. The number of followers or likes we receive can even impact professional interactions on platforms like LinkedIn. She notes that technology advancement outpaces our brain's ability to cope, leading to a dependence on phone use while companies profit from this attention.
Dr. K also underlines that constant busyness due to technology precludes the brain from having idle time previously used for emotional processing, and this can result in diminished focus, motivation, and emotional connections.
Kanojia explains how engaging with technology, such as social media or video games, activates the dopaminergic circuitry in the brain which is linked to feelings of pleasure. He uses the example of watching cat videos, which can release dopamine and provide a sense of relaxation, as evidence that technology effectively taps into the brain's reward pathways. This immediate gratification is often fleeting and can lead to a compulsion for further stimulation.
Kanojia goes on to say that engaging with technology diminishes our dopamine stores early in the ...
The neuroscience of technology addiction and its impact on the brain
Kanojia and Robbins explore the ways in which modern technologies are engineered to capture and hold our attention, often at the cost of our own self-awareness and control.
Mel Robbins emphasizes the sophisticated nature of app and software development, which is specifically designed to seize and maintain the user’s attention. Kanojia observes the transformation of technology from tools for simple tasks to complex platforms offering social validation, identity formation, and virtual relationships.
The discussion addresses the evolution of technological functionalities that reduce the barrier between impulse and action. Features like face ID on phones allow instant access to the device, playing off people's impulses and locking them into the engagement cycle. Once the user views one post or video, they are likely to remain on the platform for a much longer duration, often scrolling for content for extended periods, sometimes upwards of 45 minutes.
Kanojia notes that the nature of content on platforms like TikTok is crafted to necessitate minimal active focus from the user. The ease with which users can scroll past content that does not immediately grab attention—for periods as brief as 15 seconds—encourages a constant cycle of consumption without focused attention.
How technology is designed to hijack our attention and behaviors
Kanojia, along with Robbins, addresses how excessive engagement with digital technology affects our identity, emotional landscape, and presence in the real world.
Kanojia explains that heavy dependence on technology can impact the brain in ways that lead a person's sense of identity to become virtual. He suggests that this results in a life that feels like a haze, with a tendency for thoughts and activities to be dominated by technology. This domination implies a loss of connection to one's own thoughts and feelings.
Robbins and Kanojia imply that constant technology interactions result in emotional numbing, which undermines our self-concept. Individuals who predominantly engage in technology-based activities, like excessive gaming, may restrict their identity to negative aspects such as seeing themselves as a loser.
Kanojia and Robbins note that the chronic feeling of detachment, stemming from excessive technology use, causes individuals to feel disconnected from their internal emotional life. This disconnection often results in functioning on "autopilot," devoid of inner motivation, and susceptible to external influences in forming values and identity.
Kanojia explains that technology can serve as a distraction from negative emotions; however, such avoidance prevents healthy emotional processing. Without unstructured, reflective time, emotions remain unprocessed, leading to a buildup of what Kanojia metaphorically describes as unaddressed and unprocessed "mail" in the brain.
The effects of excessive technology use on identity, emotions, and presence
In the age of constant connectivity, it's becoming increasingly important to establish boundaries with technology. Here are strategies and routines experts suggest can help regain that control.
By creating barriers to access, you can help break the cycles of compulsive device usage.
Alok Kanojia advises removing biometric access such as face ID to make accessing devices like phones more challenging. Physically separating from devices by keeping phones in another room, uninstalling addicting apps, and reducing convenience of access can help break habitual patterns. Mel Robbins adds to this by sharing her own habits, such as maintaining a distance from her phone, particularly during work and sleep.
Dr. Kanojia stresses the importance of creating a morning routine free from technology for the first hour after waking up to prevent immediate pleasure-seeking behavior. He also suggests avoiding screens an hour before bed to allow the brain to wind down and encourages keeping the phone out of immediate reach to reduce impulsive behavior.
Tolerating boredom and engaging in activities that do not provide immediate gratification can lead to greater mental clarity and emotional processing.
Kanojia explains that enduring boredom allows the brain's constant craving ...
Strategies and routines for regaining control over technology use
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