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Orb Weavers (with Sterling K Brown, Mandy Moore and Chris Sullivan)

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In this episode of WikiHole with D'Arcy Carden, the conversation explores the behaviors of orb weaver spiders and the common phobia of arachnids. The hosts discuss the intricate web-building process and mating rituals of these spiders, as well as coping mechanisms for overcoming arachnophobia.

The episode also branches out to examine other prevalent phobias like the fear of vomiting and coulrophobia, the fear of clowns. It delves into the origins of clown-related fears in children and the sinister clown personas that have gained popularity in music groups like Insane Clown Posse and horror films. Additionally, trivia about actor Joaquin Phoenix is shared, including his early stage name and the rescue by director Werner Herzog that saved his life.

Orb Weavers (with Sterling K Brown, Mandy Moore and Chris Sullivan)

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Orb Weavers (with Sterling K Brown, Mandy Moore and Chris Sullivan)

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Spiders and arachnids

The conversation explored the behaviors of orb weaver spiders and people's common fears around spiders (arachnophobia).

Orb weavers' notable behaviors

  • Weave large, elaborate webs
  • Part of Araneidae family (3,108 species)
  • Rebuild webs daily, eating old ones
  • Females mate with multiple males, sometimes eating mates

People's fears of spiders

  • Arachnophobia is a very common phobia, as D'Arcy Carden shared her own struggles with it.
  • Many use coping mechanisms like giving spiders nicknames or asking others to remove them.

Phobias and common fears

While some phobias like arachnophobia are widespread, new ones like nomophobia (fear of being without a phone) are emerging.

Other notable phobias

  • Emetophobia: Fear of vomiting, quite common according to Sterling K. Brown
  • Coulrophobia: Fear of clowns, prevalent in children per researchers

Reasons for clown fears

  • Children find clowns' appearance/behavior unsettling
  • "Evil clown" trope in media contributes to fears

Clowns and creepy characters

Sinister, creepy clown personas have found a following in music groups like Insane Clown Posse and their "Juggalo" fan base, as well as in horror stories/films.

Insane Clown Posse

  • Musical duo with dark aesthetic
  • Devoted fans called "Juggalos"
  • Annual "Gathering of the Juggalos" festival

Creepy clowns in media

  • Pennywise from Stephen King's "It"
  • The Joker (Batman villain) portrayed by Joaquin Phoenix

Trivia about Joaquin Phoenix

As an acclaimed actor, Joaquin Phoenix:

  • Used stage name "Leaf" early in career
  • Was rescued from car crash by director Werner Herzog
  • Had new spider species named after him and Lou Reed

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  • You can ease arachnophobia by creating a spider-friendly garden space that allows you to observe spiders in a controlled environment, helping to normalize their presence and reduce fear. Start by planting native flora that attracts insects, which in turn will attract spiders, and set up a small bench or seating area where you can sit and watch the spiders at a comfortable distance. Over time, this exposure can help desensitize you to the presence of spiders and reduce anxiety.
  • To better understand the complexity of spider behavior, try sketching orb weaver webs you find in your local area, noting the differences and intricacies of each web. This activity not only gives you a greater appreciation for the diversity of spider species but also engages you in a mindful practice that can be calming and educational. Keep a journal of your sketches, and you might discover patterns or variations that reflect the unique adaptations of different orb weaver species.
  • If you're intrigued by the cultural impact of sinister clowns, create a digital photo collage or mood board that explores the evolution of the "evil clown" trope in media. Use free online tools to collect images and references from various sources, including movies, music, and art, to visually document how this figure has changed over time. This can be a creative way to engage with the topic and understand the societal fears and fascinations surrounding clowns.

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Spiders and arachnids

In a conversation centered on spiders and particularly orb weavers, Joaquin Phoenix led a discussion that encompassed both fascinating behaviors of these arachnids and common human fears associated with them.

Orb weavers are a type of spider known for their large, elaborate webs

Orb weavers belong to the Araneidae spider family, which has over 3,000 identified species

Orb weavers are recognized for weaving the classic Halloween web, often spanning between two bushes or trees. Their large, orb-like webs have earned them their name. These spiders are part of the Araneidae family, which is known to have 3,108 species.

Orb weavers construct a new web every day, and they eat their old webs to recycle the materials

In an industrious process, orb weavers build a new web each day. They dispose of their old webs by eating them, which is a method to recycle their web materials.

Female orb weavers are polyandrous, meaning they have multiple male partners, and may even eat their male partners after mating

Female orb weavers lead a polyandrous lifestyle, mating with multiple partners. In some orb weavers species, the female may consume the male after mating. Whether a male orb weaver survives his first copulation hinges largely on the duration of the genital contact. Males that detach early, within five seconds or so, might survive, but those engaging in prolonged copulation for over ten seconds are likely to be eaten. This longer mating, despite the risk of cannibalism, correlates with more effective sperm transfer and increased paternity chances for the male.

Spiders can elicit strong phobias and fears in many people

Arachnophobia, or the fear of spiders, is one of the most common phobias

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  • While orb weavers are known for their large, elaborate webs, not all species within the Araneidae family create the stereotypical orb-shaped web; some create webs with different structures.
  • The statement that orb weavers eat their old webs to recycle the materials might be misleading, as not all orb weavers or spiders exhibit this behavior; some may abandon their webs without consuming them.
  • The polyandrous nature of female orb weavers and the practice of sexual cannibalism is not universal across all species of orb weavers; some species may exhibit monogamous behavior or no sexual cannibalism.
  • The prevalence of arachnophobia might be overstated, as fear of spiders, while common, varies greatly a ...

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  • You can observe local orb weaver spiders to learn about biodiversity and web construction by visiting parks or gardens at dawn when they are most active in web-building. Take photos of the webs from different angles and note any variations you see among them, which can give you a deeper appreciation for the diversity within a single species.
  • To address arachnophobia, start a 'spider diary' where you document each encounter with a spider, noting your emotional response and the spider's behavior. This can help you track your progress in overcoming fear and understand spider behavior better, potentially reducing fear through familiarity.
  • Create a simple art proje ...

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Phobias and common fears

Individuals may harbor irrational fears and anxieties about a variety of subjects, from heights to serpents. Some of these phobias are well-known, while others are newly emerging alongside societal and technological changes.

Phobias can develop around a wide range of subjects, from heights to snakes

Nomophobia is a proposed new phobia for the fear of being without a working mobile phone

The term nomophobia has been proposed to describe the rising anxiety some people experience when they're without their mobile phones. This fear, though not officially classified as a phobia, spotlights our increasing dependence on these devices.

Emetophobia is the fear of vomiting, which is quite common

Emetophobia, the fear of vomiting, is surprisingly common. Sterling K. Brown notes that this fear can significantly impact daily life, sharing how actress Regina Hall struggled with oral tests during COVID-19 due to her emetophobia. The phobia can cause people to avoid certain activities and situations where they fear vomiting may occur.

Certain phobias, like the fear of clowns, are more widespread in children

Research shows that young children generally dislike and fear clowns, finding their appearance and behavior unsettling

Researchers at the University of Sheffield discovered that children nearly universally dislike clowns, with many finding them not only unlikable but also quite frightening. The fear of clowns, or coulrophobia, can be especially ...

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  • While nomophobia is a term used to describe the fear of being without a mobile phone, it's worth considering whether this fear is truly irrational or simply a rational response to the significant role that mobile phones play in modern life, including essential communications and safety concerns.
  • The classification of emetophobia as a common phobia might be overstated; while it is recognized, it may not be as prevalent or as impactful on daily life for the majority of people as suggested.
  • The assertion that the fear of clowns is more widespread in children could be challenged by noting that adults can also experience coulrophobia, and this fear may persist into adulthood for some individuals.
  • The research from the University of Sheffield about children's universal dislike of clowns could be questioned on the grounds of cultural bias, sample siz ...

Actionables

  • You can gradually expose yourself to the subject of your fear in a controlled environment to lessen its impact. Start by looking at pictures related to your fear, then progress to watching videos, and finally, if possible, try to have a real-life encounter in a safe setting. For example, if you're afraid of snakes, visit a zoo where you can observe them safely, or if you have nomophobia, practice leaving your phone at home for short periods.
  • Create a "fear journal" to track and understand your anxieties better. Write down when you feel anxious, what triggers it, and how you react. This can help you identify patterns and develop strategies to cope with your fears. For instance, if you notice that the thought of being without your phone causes stress, you might plan to engage in a distracting activity during times you're typically on your phone.
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Clowns and creepy characters

From music to film, the image of the eerie, mischievous clown has found a concrete place in popular culture. It manifests in everything from dedicated fans of the detour into the sinister through Insane Clown Posse, to the horrifying Pennywise in Stephen King's "It" and the deeply unnerving portrayal of Joker by Joaquin Phoenix.

The Insane Clown Posse and their fans, known as "Juggalos", have embraced the creepy clown aesthetic

The Insane Clown Posse, known for its dark, violent lyrics, and elaborate live performances, has drawn on the image of the unsettling, sinister clown to shape its identity. The term Juggalo, referring to the devoted fans of the Insane Clown Posse, originated during a 1994 live performance by the group. Violent J, a member of the duo, addressed the audience as Juggalos while performing the song "The Juggla," and the name stuck.

Juggalos, the devoted fans of Insane Clown Posse, gather annually for the "Gathering of the Juggalos" festival

Annually, fans of the Insane Clown Posse come together for a three-day music festival known as the Gathering of the Juggalos, which takes place in the woods and serves as a celebration of the subculture that has formed around the group's music and aesthetic.

The ominous clown theme does not stop with musical acts; it extends into literature and film as well. Stephen King's novel "It," which introduced the nightmare-inducing Pennywise, exemplifies soc ...

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  • Explore the psychological impact of clowns by journaling your reactions to different clown imagery. Start by finding various clown images online, ranging from the playful to the sinister, and note your emotional responses to each. This can help you understand the broad cultural impact clowns have on individuals.
  • Create a themed art project that captures the essence of the creepy clown trope. Use mixed media like drawing, painting, or digital art to express what the creepy clown symbolizes to you. This personal art project can serve as a conversation starter or a way to process the themes discussed.
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Trivia and facts about Joaquin Phoenix

Joaquin Phoenix is a revered actor within the Hollywood industry, celebrated for his compelling performances and nominations for multiple Oscars.

Joaquin Phoenix is an acclaimed actor who has been nominated for multiple Oscars

Early Career Stage Name

In his youthful foray into acting, Phoenix didn’t initially use his given name. Instead, he went by "Leaf" to fit in with the nature-themed names of his siblings River, Rain, and Summer. Such a name reflected a connection to the natural environment, much like his brothers and sisters. However, Phoenix ultimately decided to reclaim his birth name, Joaquin, when he turned 15.

Hollywood Car Accident and Rescue by Herzog

A more harrowing moment in Phoenix's life occurred in 2006, when he experienced a car accident due to brake failure while driving in Hollywood. The aftermath of the crash saw film director Werner Herzog play the role of a good Samaritan. Herzog proceeded to tap on Phoenix's car window calmly and assisted him by breaking the back window of the car to help Phoenix exit the wreckage. After bystanders called an ambulance, Phoenix later sought out Herzog to thank him for his unexpected and life-saving aid.

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  • Joaquin Phoenix's siblings, River, Rain, and Summer, also have nature-themed names like him. This naming convention reflects a connection to the natural world and showcases a unique family tradition. The names River, Rain, and Summer evoke elements of nature, emphasizing a bond with the environment. Joaquin Phoenix later decided to revert to his birth name, Joaquin, after initially using the name "Leaf" to align with his siblings' nature-inspired names.
  • Werner Herzog is a renowned German film director known for his distinctive style and acclaimed works in the industry. In Joaquin Phoenix's life, Herzog played a crucial role as a good Samar ...

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