Bay Area Music (with W. Kamau Bell, Guy Branum and Aparna Nancherla)
On WikiHole with D'Arcy Carden, the hosts explore the Bay Area's rich musical history and its impact on counterculture. They dive into D'Arcy's parents' BAM Magazine, which celebrated local acts like Huey Lewis and the iconic "San Francisco Sound" of Janis Joplin and Jefferson Airplane.
Joined by guests W. Kamau Bell, Guy Branum, and Aparna Nancherla, the podcast engages in a lively Wikipedia trivia game, traversing rabbit holes ranging from Bay Area music to unexpected topics like mosquitoes. They also examine the legacy of media mogul William Randolph Hearst and Cosmopolitan Magazine's trailblazing nude male centerfolds that fueled celebrity culture.
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Bay Area Music and Culture
BAM Magazine and the San Francisco Sound
D'Arcy Carden shares the influence of her parents' BAM (Bay Area Music) Magazine, which hosted the BAMi Awards celebrating local talent like Huey Lewis and the News. The "San Francisco Sound" from the 1960s-70s, featuring acts like Janis Joplin, Creedence Clearwater Revival, and Jefferson Airplane, helped define counterculture and the hippie movement.
Wikipedia Trivia and Rabbit Holes
In a Wikipedia trivia game, participants engaged in "rabbit holes" across varied topics. Starting with trivia on Bay Area music, the questions led to amusing facts and lore around mosquitoes, Cosmopolitan magazine, and more. Guests shared personal Wikipedia wanderings, like Kamau Bell's fascination with resilient tardigrades.
Influential Figures and Media
William Randolph Hearst
The media mogul William Randolph Hearst, subject of "Citizen Kane," used his power to outlaw cannabis to protect his paper interests. After acquiring Cosmopolitan in 1905, Hearst shaped the magazine's innovations.
Cosmopolitan Magazine
Known for pioneering nude male centerfolds in the 1970s, featuring Burt Reynolds, Cosmopolitan pushed boundaries and contributed to celebrity culture.
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Counterarguments
- The "San Francisco Sound" was one of many influential music scenes and while it was significant, other music movements from different regions and eras also played crucial roles in shaping counterculture and music trends.
- Wikipedia trivia games, while entertaining, may not always lead to accurate knowledge acquisition due to the potential for encountering misinformation or poorly sourced content on the platform.
- The assertion that William Randolph Hearst used his power to outlaw cannabis to protect his paper interests is a theory that has been debated among historians, with some suggesting that his motivations were more complex and not solely driven by business interests related to paper.
- While Cosmopolitan magazine did indeed feature nude male centerfolds and pushed boundaries, it's worth noting that the magazine's approach to sexuality and representation of gender has been met with both praise and criticism over the years.
Actionables
- Explore your family's influence by creating a visual timeline of your heritage and its impact on your interests. Start by gathering stories, photos, and memorabilia from your relatives, and use these to trace back the origins of your passions or career choices, much like how a magazine influenced D'Arcy Carden. This can help you understand the roots of your motivations and perhaps inspire future endeavors.
- Dive into local history by curating a playlist of music from your area's most influential era. If the San Francisco Sound was a defining movement, your region might have its own musical heritage. Research local bands, genres, and iconic songs, then compile them into a playlist. Sharing this with friends or on social media can spark conversations and a deeper appreciation for your community's cultural legacy.
- Foster curiosity and learning by starting a 'Wikipedia Night' with friends or family. Each person starts on a random Wikipedia page and shares interesting facts they discover, emulating Kamau Bell's fascination with tardigrades. This can be a fun way to learn new things, understand the interconnectedness of knowledge, and improve your research skills.
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Bay Area music and culture
The Bay Area has played a pivotal role in shaping rock music and culture, particularly during the 1960s and 70s, as D’Arcy Carden explores through the lens of her parents’ publication, BAM Magazine, and the wider San Francisco Sound.
BAM Magazine was a rock music publication founded by the podcast host's parents in the 1970s-1990s
D’Arcy Carden shares her personal connection to the Bay Area music scene through BAM Magazine, which stands for Bay Area Music. She reminisces about its influence on her family's life, the excitement of attending many concerts, and how it was intertwined with her upbringing.
The magazine featured a yearly awards show called the BAMi Awards
BAM Magazine hosted an annual award show, the BAMi Awards. This storied event highlighted local talent and celebrated the Bay Area's music scene. One of the groups that frequently garnered praise at the BAMi Awards was Huey Lewis and the News, a band that won the award for outstanding group six times. Carden notes their massive hit from the movie "Back to the Future."
In a round of trivia, Carden mentions Santana, asking which guitarist-led Bay Area band won the best album BAMI in 1977 for their album "Moonflower"; the answer is Santana.
The "San Francisco Sound" of rock music from the 1960s and 1970s encompassed influential acts like Janis Joplin, Creedence Clearwater, and Jefferson Airplane
In addition to BAM Magazine’s impact, the "San Francisco Sound" was a definitive component of the Bay Area's music identity. In a trivia session hosted by Carden, guests are asked to name influential rock acts from the '60s and '70s associated with the San Francisco Sound, including bands like Journey, ...
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Counterarguments
- While BAM Magazine may have been influential, it was one of many publications covering rock music at the time, and its impact should be considered in the context of a broader media landscape that included more prominent national magazines like Rolling Stone.
- The significance of the BAMi Awards in recognizing local talent is notable, but it's important to acknowledge that such regional awards may not have held the same prestige or influence as national or international awards in the music industry.
- The claim that Huey Lewis and the News won the outstanding group award six times at the BAMi Awards could be seen as highlighting the magazine's potential bias towards certain local acts, possibly at the expense of a more diverse representation of the Bay Area music scene.
- The "San Francisco Sound" was indeed influential, but it was not the only sound or cultural movement at the time, and other regions and genres also played significant roles in shaping rock music and counterculture.
- The association of the San Francisco Sound with the counterculture and hippie movement might overshadow the contributions of other music scenes and cultural movements that were also influential during the 1960s.
- The "Summer of Love" a ...
Actionables
- Explore your local music scene by attending shows at small venues to discover emerging artists that could be the future's influential acts. By doing this, you're supporting local musicians and might find yourself part of a new music movement that could shape cultural trends, much like the San Francisco Sound did in its time.
- Create a playlist featuring tracks from the 1960s and 1970s San Francisco Sound to immerse yourself in the music that defined a generation. This can give you a personal sense of the counterculture's soundtrack and might inspire you to look for modern equivalents that carry the same spirit of innovation and rebellion.
- Start a music appreciation journal where ...
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Wikipedia Trivia and Rabbit Holes
The hosts and guests take turns plumbing the depths of "Wikipedia rabbit holes" in a spirited trivia game, exploring a wide range of topics from presidential eyewear to the durability of tiny animals in space.
The hosts and guests engage in a trivia game where they dive down "Wikipedia rabbit holes"
The game kicks off with questions about Windsor glasses, leading to an American president—Theodore Roosevelt. The fast-paced "Huey Lewis style" questions move quickly. Participants are tickled by an amusing fact about Benjamin Franklin inventing bifocal lenses, alongside lore about his intentions involving French court intrigue.
Continuing down the rabbit hole, a question about a semi-aquatic insect with bifocal vision puzzles the guests; the diving beetle turns out to be the correct answer. The game's structure revolves around starting with a particular topic and traversing through multiple-choice questions that become progressively more arcane, characteristic of the unpredictable nature of a Wikipedia deep dive.
The game transitions from Bay Area music trivia to iconic anthems of the hippie era. The journey progresses with D'Arcy Carden posing a question about the itchiness of mosquito bites, which Kamau Bell correctly attributes to mosquito saliva, albeit unintentionally calling it venom. A follow-up inquiry about mosquitoes' habitat ranges stumps the group until "Cosmopolitan distribution" is determined as the right response by Guy Branum.
Questions leap from mosquitoes to the storied past of Cosmopolitan Magazine, provoking discussions that wind back to San Francisco. A colorful mix of trivia, including deceptive facts about "War of the Worlds" and debunking mythical sex tips from Cosmopolitan, keeps participants eager and competitive.
The player tallying the most points by the end triumphs, with current standings suggesting a neck-and-neck race. A climactic final question, worth five points, adds to the suspense. Ultimately, Aparna Nancherla scores eight points, Guy Branum secures 11, and the victor, W. Kamau Bell, amasses 17 points. In honor of Bell's win, a donation to Wikipedia is made.
The guests share their own personal experiences of getting sucked into Wikipedia resear ...
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- A "Wikipedia rabbit hole" is a term used to describe the experience of getting engrossed in a series of interconnected articles on Wikipedia by clicking on hyperlinks within the text, leading to a journey of exploration through various topics. This phenomenon mirrors the idea of falling into a deep, immersive information search akin to Alice's adventures in Wonderland. It often starts with a specific topic and then branches out into related or unrelated subjects, creating a web of knowledge exploration. This process can lead to unexpected discoveries and a deep dive into diverse areas of interest.
- "Huey Lewis style" questions are fast-paced and engaging, much like the energetic music of the American singer Huey Lewis. This term suggests that the questions are delivered in a lively and dynamic manner, keeping the participants on their toes during the trivia game. The reference to "Huey Lewis style" evokes a sense of excitement and quick tempo in the questioning process. The comparison to Huey Lewis's music style implies a high-energy and entertaining approach to presenting the trivia questions.
- Benjamin Franklin is credited with inventing bifocal lenses, which allow for both near and far vision correction in the same lens. The lore about his intentions involving French court intrigue may reference his diplomatic efforts in France during the American Revolutionary War, where he played a crucial role in securing French support for the American cause. This connection between Franklin's scientific inventions and his diplomatic endeavors showcases his multifaceted contributions to both science and politics.
- D'Arcy Carden posed a question about the itchiness of mosquito bites, which is a common reaction caused by the body's immune response to mosquito saliva injected during a bite. The saliva contains proteins that trigger a mild allergic reaction, leading to the familiar itching sensation.
- Tardigrades, also known as water bears, are microscopic organisms known for their extreme resilience. They can survive in a variety of harsh conditions, including extreme temperatures, pressures, and even the vacuum of space. One of their remarkable abilities is anhydrobiosis, where they can enter a state of suspended animation and survive without water for long periods, up to a deca ...
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Influential figures and media
William Randolph Hearst was a pivotal figure in the media industry, and his influence extended beyond just newspapers. Cosmopolitan magazine, known for various innovations, also played a role in shaping media and celebrity culture.
William Randolph Hearst was a media magnate who purchased Cosmopolitan magazine in 1905
The participants discussed how William Randolph Hearst’s acquisition of Cosmopolitan magazine in 1905 added to his expansive media empire.
Hearst used his influence to help make cannabis illegal in order to protect his paper industry
Hearst used his considerable influence to help outlaw cannabis in the United States, with the dual aim of protecting his investments in the paper milling industry and undermining the competitive hemp industry.
The classic film "Citizen Kane" was a thinly-veiled critique of Hearst and his controversial lifestyle
"Citizen Kane," widely regarded as one of the greatest films ever made, was discussed as a direct, though implicit, critique of Hearst. Hearst, who saw the film as a personal attack, subsequently banned any mention of it in his newspapers. The participants also touched on a rumor that "Rosebud," the film’s famous macguffin, was a private nickname for Marion Davies’ intimate parts, indicating a deeper connection to Hearst’s private life.
Cosmopolitan m ...
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- Hearst's role in making cannabis illegal is debated; some argue that his influence is overstated and that broader social and political factors played a more significant role.
- The claim that "Citizen Kane" is a critique of Hearst is widely accepted, but some might argue that the film is a broader commentary on power and the media, not solely on Hearst.
- While Cosmopolitan did feature nude male centerfolds, it could be argued that this was more reflective of changing social norms and the sexual revolution than a deliberate attempt to shape ...
Actionables
- Explore the impact of media moguls by researching local media owners and their influence on your community's news. Look into who owns your local newspapers, radio stations, or TV channels and investigate any significant changes they've made to the media landscape, drawing parallels to Hearst's influence.
- Understand the evolution of media standards by comparing past and present magazine issues. Pick a magazine that has been in publication for several decades, like Cosmopolitan, and compare issues from different eras to observe changes in content, advertising, and representation, reflecting on how media shapes cultural norms.
- Analyze the power of media representatio ...
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