Nathan Lane (with Zach Woods, Jeff Hiller and Katie Dippold)
In this episode of WikiHole with D'Arcy Carden, the podcast explores actor Nathan Lane's extensive career on Broadway and his iconic roles in films like "The Lion King." The conversation turns to celebrity death hoaxes and conspiracy theories, touching on examples like the "Paul is Dead" rumor and the Avril Lavigne replacement theory.
The hosts and guests share amusing personal anecdotes about improv comedy and the bizarre Wikipedia rabbit holes they've found themselves tumbling down. D'Arcy Carden recalls learning about termite rituals during a search on Vin Diesel's name, while Jeff Hiller recounts a mysterious case of missing hikers. The episode offers a lighthearted look at the obscure trivia and unexpected storylines lurking within Wikipedia's pages.
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Nathan Lane's Acting Career
Nathan Lane is a renowned actor celebrated for his achievements on Broadway, having won a Tony Award for his portrayal of Roy Cohn in "Angels in America," according to the podcast. Lane has starred in iconic productions like "Guys and Dolls" and "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum," showcasing his versatility.
Initially cast as a hyena in "The Lion King," Lane's undeniable chemistry with co-star Ernie Sabella prompted their casting as the comedic duo Timon and Pumbaa. Beyond theater, Lane has taken on diverse film and TV roles, including the lawyer F. Lee Bailey in "The People vs. O.J. Simpson."
Death Hoaxes and Conspiracy Theories
Jeff Hiller and D'Arcy Carden explore death hoaxes and conspiracy theories targeting celebrities and political figures. They delve into the "Paul is Dead" rumor about Paul McCartney's alleged death and replacement by a lookalike, which lawyer F. Lee Bailey helped debunk through a mock trial.
The podcast touches on similar hoaxes, like the theory that Avril Lavigne died and was replaced by an actress named Melissa Vandella. Carden mentions speculation that Melania Trump used a political decoy, a notion that spawned comedy sketches on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert."
Hiller and Carden confirm that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had three official impersonators who would stand in for him in movies and public appearances.
Personal Anecdotes and Wikipedia Rabbit Holes
The guests share personal experiences of falling down "Wikipedia rabbit holes" and discovering obscure information. D'Arcy Carden discusses how a search about Vin Diesel's name led her to learn about termite rituals, while Jeff Hiller talks about a mysterious case of missing hikers.
They also divulge humorous stories about improv comedy, including having to perform pantomimed sexual acts in front of family members or colleagues. Hiller recounts miming a sexual act in front of a boss, while Carden shares her dismay at performing similar acts in front of relatives.
Zach Woods and Carden reminisce about improvising a sex act on stage, with Carden playfully 'topping' and Woods on the 'bottom.'
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- Jeff Hiller and D'Arcy Carden are actors and comedians known for their work in television and improv comedy. They often collaborate on projects and podcasts, showcasing their humor and chemistry. In this context, they discuss death hoaxes and conspiracy theories involving celebrities and political figures, adding their comedic perspective to the topic.
- The "Paul is Dead" rumor was a conspiracy theory in the late 1960s claiming that Paul McCartney of The Beatles had died and been replaced by a lookalike. This theory gained traction due to supposed clues in the band's music and album artwork, sparking widespread speculation and interest among fans. The rumor was eventually debunked, but it remains a notable part of Beatles folklore and music history.
- Joseph Stalin, the Soviet leader, had three official impersonators who resembled him closely. These impersonators were used for security reasons to confuse potential assassins and protect Stalin. They would stand in for him at public events and in films to safeguard the real Stalin. This practice was a part of the elaborate security measures taken to ensure Stalin's safety during his rule.
- "Falling down 'Wikipedia rabbit holes' without explanation" typically means getting engrossed in a series of interconnected articles on Wikipedia, leading to spending a significant amount of time browsing and learning about various topics unintentionally. This term describes the experience of starting with one topic on Wikipedia and then clicking on links within the articles to explore related subjects, often resulting in a deep dive into a wide range of information. It's a metaphor for the endless and captivating nature of exploring Wikipedia, where one can easily get lost in a chain of articles, losing track of time. This phenomenon reflects the vast amount of knowledge available on Wikipedia and the ease with which users can navigate from one topic to another, sometimes straying far from their original search intent.
- In improv comedy, performers sometimes engage in pantomimed sexual acts as part of comedic scenes. This involves using exaggerated gestures and movements to suggest intimate actions without actually engaging in them. It's a common comedic device used for shock value or humor in a theatrical setting. These acts are entirely simulated and not explicit.
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Nathan Lane's acting career and roles
Nathan Lane is a renowned actor with a distinguished career in theater, film, and television. He is particularly celebrated for his achievements on Broadway, having been nominated for six Tony Awards and winning for his portrayal of infamous lawyer Roy Cohn in "Angels in America".
Broadway Star and Beloved Film Performer
Nathan Lane has a rich history on Broadway, featuring in iconic productions such as "Guys and Dolls", "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum", "Frogs", "The Nance", "Love! Valour! Compassion!", and "November". In these productions, he showcased his versatility, commanding the stage not just as a lead but also through his remarkable character work.
Transition to the Animated World
Lane's dynamic performance style led him from the stage to the animation recording booth. Initially, Nathan Lane was cast as one of the henchman hyenas in Disney's animated classic, "The Lion King". However, his undeniable chemistry with co-star Ernie Sabella, who was also part of the voice cast as a hyena, prompted a change. Their dynamic pairing was unmistakable, and the two were ultimately cast as the comedic duo Timon and Pumbaa, providing some of the film's most memorable moments.
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- Roy Cohn was a prominent American lawyer known for his work as Senator Joseph McCarthy's chief counsel during the Red Scare. He was also a mentor to Donald Trump in the 1970s and 1980s. Cohn's aggressive and controversial tactics in his legal career left a lasting impact on American politics and culture. Nathan Lane portrayed Cohn in the play "Angels in America," a role that showcased Lane's acting prowess and earned him a Tony Award.
- Nathan Lane was initially cast as a hyena in Disney's "The Lion King" but his chemistry with another voice actor, Ernie Sabella, led to them being cast as the characters Timon and Pumbaa instead. Their dynamic pairing as the comedic duo brought a new energy to the roles, creating some of the film's most memorable moments. This change in casting allowed Lane to showcase his comedic talents in a more prominent an ...
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Death hoaxes and conspiracy theories
Jeff Hiller and D'Arcy Carden explore the realm of death hoaxes and conspiracy theories that target celebrities and political figures.
The "Paul is Dead" rumor about Paul McCartney's death and replacement by a lookalike was a famous music-related death hoax that lawyer F. Lee Bailey helped to debunk.
Similar death hoax conspiracy theories have circulated about other celebrities
They delve into various hoaxes, including the alleged replacement of individuals such as Avril Lavigne, who, according to a widespread hoax, died and was replaced by a lookalike named Melissa Vandella. This prompted F. Lee Bailey to conduct a mock trial on an RKO television special to dispel the "Paul is Dead" rumor about Paul McCartney. Similarly, the podcast touches on the conspiracy theory that singer Avril Lavigne died and was replaced by an actress named Melissa Vandella. Fans, known as the "Avril Rangers," believe that during a photo shoot, the stand-in for Avril wrote the name Melissa on her hand as a signal that she was not the real Avril.
Some politicians have employed "political decoys" or lookalikes to stand in for them, as was the case with Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, who had three official impersonators.
The conversation then shifts to political figures and the use of official body doubles or decoys. The participants confirm that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had three official im ...
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- You can sharpen your critical thinking skills by creating a "hoax journal" where you document and analyze new rumors or conspiracy theories you come across in the media. Write down the claim, the evidence presented, and your own research to assess its credibility. This practice will help you discern fact from fiction and understand the mechanisms behind the spread of false information.
- Enhance your media literacy by starting a discussion group with friends or online communities focused on dissecting the portrayal of celebrities and political figures in the media. Each member could bring a different article or piece of media to each meeting, and together you can evaluate the sources, discuss the potential biases, and consider the broader impact of celebrity culture on society.
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Personal anecdotes and Wikipedia rabbit holes
During a lively podcast episode, the guests open up about their adventures through "Wikipedia rabbit holes" and their experiences with improv comedy, leading to some rather unique personal discoveries and awkward performances.
The podcast guests share their own experiences of falling down "Wikipedia rabbit holes" and discovering obscure or surprising information
D'Arcy Carden starts by describing how an innocent search about Vin Diesel's real name can lead to learning about how termites meet their demise. Such excursions into the depths of Wikipedia encompass both the odd and the obscure, engaging listeners with unusual facts like these termite rituals.
Jeff Hiller talks about the mystery surrounding two hikers who disappeared in the seventies, a tale whose remnants surfaced forty years later when their camera reappeared, sparking discussions and debate about their fate.
Katie Dippold introduces a personal angle to the rabbit hole phenomenon, sharing the surprising discovery of her last name's historical connection to a scandalous German teacher found through a serendipitous Wiki-trawl.
Zach Woods goes a bit dark and mythical, sharing his fascination with Santa's "brutal companions" like Krampus, spotlighting the Christmas demon's punitive role during the holiday season.
These types of personal anecdotes and impromptu discussions about random Wikipedia tangents are a key part of the podcast's format and entertainment value.
Furthermore, the guests divulge more intimate and eccentric episodes from their own lives that intersect with the vast information on Wikipedia. Zach Woods tells an extraordinary story about his classmate, Cy Doyle, whose father had abducted him to Iran. Cy's mother's ensuing mission to retrieve her son eventually became a book, which a young Zach Woods read eagerly during his early school days, revealing an early appetite for dramatic narratives.
The guests also share humorous stories about their experiences with improv comedy, including instances of having to perform pantomimed sexual acts in front of family members or colleagues.
Shifting to improv comedy, the hilarious discomfort of acting out adult-themed pantomimes in the most inappropriate of audiences provides a rich vein of comedy gold. Jeff Hiller recounts an unforgettable time when he had to mime a s ...
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- A "Wikipedia rabbit hole" is a term used to describe the experience of getting engrossed in a series of interconnected articles on Wikipedia by clicking on hyperlinks within the articles, leading to a journey of exploring diverse and often unrelated topics. This phenomenon is akin to falling into a rabbit hole, as in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, where one topic leads to another in a seemingly endless chain of discoveries. It's a common occurrence when users start with a specific topic and end up delving into a wide range of subjects, often unintentionally, due to the interconnected nature of Wikipedia articles. This exploration can lead to discovering obscure or surprising information and can be both entertaining and educational.
- Improv comedy is a form of live theatre where performers create scenes and characters on the spot without a script. It relies on quick thinking, collaboration, and spontaneity to entertain audiences. Improv often involves games, prompts, and audience suggestions to inspire the performers. The goal is to generate humor and engage the audience through unscripted and unpredictable performances.
- Krampus is a folklore figure known in Central and Eastern Alpine traditions who accompanies Saint Nicholas. Krampus punishes misbehaving children with birch rods on Krampusnacht, the night before St. Nicholas Day. The character ...
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