On this edition of The Peter Attia Drive, Attia and Dr. Eric Ravussin delve into the challenges of accurately measuring energy expenditure and dietary intake. They unpack a study investigating whether varying macronutrient ratios impacts metabolic rate, discussing the potential adaptation over time.
The duo also examines a landmark study on calorie restriction and aging, detailing its methods and findings related to cardiometabolic health markers. While promising, Ravussin addresses limitations on long-term adherence and the need for continued follow-up. Throughout this scientific exploration, listeners gain insights into the complexities of assessing energy balance and the pursuit of metabolic health.
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Peter Attia and Eric Ravussin discuss the challenges in accurately measuring both energy expenditure and energy intake.
Ravussin explains that indirect calorimetry and metabolic chambers provide precise measurements of energy expenditure. Indirect calorimetry calculates expenditure from oxygen consumption and CO2 production with 2-3% accuracy, while metabolic chambers allow detailed monitoring in a controlled setting.
However, Ravussin acknowledges that precisely measuring energy intake remains difficult. Individuals often lack awareness or underreport actual food intake. Attia cites his own experiences with variable eating habits.
While able to precisely quantify expended energy, researchers currently lack comparable methods for measuring energy intake, Ravussin notes. He suggests exploring AI image recognition and novel wearable technologies to improve dietary data collection outside research settings.
Attia and Ravussin examine a study testing whether varying the carb-to-fat ratio, while keeping protein constant, could impact energy expenditure as proposed by the carbohydrate-[restricted term] model.
In the first weeks, the low-carb diet group showed a modest but significant increase in energy expenditure of around 100 calories per day compared to the standard diet group.
However, Ravussin observed this expenditure increase diminished by the study's third and fourth weeks, suggesting the body may adapt to macronutrient changes over time. Attia proposed testing more extreme diet compositions.
Ravussin voiced skepticism about the carbohydrate-[restricted term] model's long-term efficacy, noting the body more readily matches carb oxidation to carb intake than high fat intake.
This study explored how calorie restriction affects aging biomarkers over seven years.
Researchers recruited over 200 non-obese adults, aiming for 10%+ weight loss via caloric deficit from diet, exercise, or very low-calorie diets. Strict screening, monitoring, and provided meals ensured adherence.
The calorie-restricted group lost 10-12% weight and improved cardiometabolic health markers like [restricted term] sensitivity, oxidative stress, and mitochondrial function - suggesting impacts on primary aging processes.
Adherence over two years proved challenging despite intensive support. Concerns included bone density, menstrual cycles, and whether benefits extend into later decades, requiring continued follow-up.
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Peter Attia and metabolic researcher Eric Ravussin delve deep into the complexities of measuring energy expenditure and the intricacies involved in maintaining energy balance, which pose technical and methodological challenges.
Ravussin, who built one of the first metabolic chambers, discusses the use of indirect calorimetry in energy metabolism. This method, which estimates energy expenditure and substrate utilization through oxidative processes, has an accuracy of about 2-3%. By quantifying oxygen consumption and CO2 production, they calculate energy expenditure and determine which substrate, like carbohydrates or fats, is being oxidized.
Peter Attia compares the process to using an indirect calorimeter affixed to the face to measure VO2 max, praising the accuracy of the technology in measuring total energy consumption and substrate sources.
Ravussin speaks highly of the precision of measurements in metabolic chambers, which function like hotel rooms to measure oxygen consumption and CO2 production in a comfortable, extended setting. However, he acknowledges that these chambers do not directly measure energy intake and their precision mainly applies to estimating energy output.
The study that Ravussin mentions took advantage of such chambers to assess energy expenditure, where subjects lived in a hospital for a month, periodically staying in the chambers.
Despite the precision in measuring expended energy, the methodology has limitations. While it provides an accurate assessment of energy lost as heat through direct calorimetry, it falls short in accurately accounting for energy intake.
Despite the available tools to precisely measure energy expenditure and substrates, Ravussin acknowledges that there is currently no comparable method to accurately measure energy intake. He cites the unreliability of diet recalls and the challenges that free-living conditions pose to precise measurement. Participants often do not strictly follow dietary prescriptions in real life, making it difficult to estimate actual intake.
Peter Attia recognizes his own experiences with th ...
Measuring energy expenditure and energy balance
Peter Attia and Eric Ravussin delve into a study that manipulated the macronutrient ratios in participants' diets to see if it could alter their energy expenditure.
The researchers were curious to see if changing the macronutrient composition, specifically the ratio of carbohydrate to fat while keeping protein constant, affects non-deliberate energy expenditure. This question is pivotal when considering the carbohydrate-[restricted term] model that suggests lower carbohydrate intake can decrease [restricted term] secretion, reduce calorie storage, and induce a semi-starvation state in the systemic circulation, potentially increasing energy expenditure.
Ravussin emphasized the importance of isocaloric conditions to test this hypothesis, though replicating such conditions poses a challenge in real-world scenarios. Attia and Ravussin were proponents of an alternative hypothesis where significant changes in fat and carbohydrate intake could indeed alter energy expenditure. They focused on this in light of exploring the carbohydrate-[restricted term] model versus the traditional energy balance model.
The study followed an isocaloric diet, varying the ratios of carbohydrate to fat while keeping protein intake constant, to observe whether this would impact energy expenditure despite unchanged calorie intake. The diets were composed differently, with one being keto-centric (10% carbohydrate) and the other containing a standard amount of carbohydrates (45-50%).
In a controlled metabolic chamber, there was a slight increase in sleeping metabolic rate and 24-hour energy expenditure in the first couple of weeks under the ketogenic diet, typically just over 100 calories a day. This initial effect, while statistically significant, surprised researchers like Ravussin for its modesty.
As the study progressed into the third and fourth weeks, Ravussin observed that the increased energy expenditure effect under the ...
The impact of macronutrient composition on energy expenditure
The Calorie Study, influenced by Biosphere 2 and various theories concerning calorie restriction, was a seven-year research endeavor to explore how calorie restriction affects biomarkers of aging in humans.
Peter Attia and Eric Ravussin discuss the impetus and framework of the Calorie Study. The study, which spanned over a period of years including a pilot phase, aimed to investigate the impact of caloric restriction on primary and secondary aging. Researchers designed the study to recruit a screened population of non-obese adults and assigned them to various groups, including caloric restriction, ad libitum control, energy deficit through a combination of restriction and exercise, and weight loss through a very low-calorie diet.
Recruitment was selective—more than 5,000 individuals were screened to enroll 225 participants—all with the goal of a minimum 10% weight loss. The comprehensive design used doubly labeled water to measure energy requirements, accounting for metabolic adaptations and participants had access to lessons in cooking alongside provided meals.
Participants in the caloric restriction group achieved an average of 10-12% weight loss and exhibited significant improvements in markers of cardiometabolic health. Evidence of enhanced mitochondrial function and turnover suggested potential benefits regarding primary aging processes. Participants enjoyed better health metrics, such as reduced body fat percentage, and showed evidence of metabolic adaptation and decreased oxidative stress, supporting the theory that lower metabolic rates might equate to longer lifespans.
The study found increased mitochondrial turnover with caloric restriction, linked to less energy requirement and the creation of more efficient mitochondria, implying positive impacts on aging. Improvements were observed in lipid profiles, [restricted term] sensitivity, body composition changes, and mitophagy. Moreover, a published paper by Bill Krauss indicated remarkable improvement across all these markers of secondary aging in originally healthy individuals.
The study's replica ...
The Calorie Study on the effects of caloric restriction on aging
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