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506. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

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In this episode of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, Peterson and his guest Lee Jussim discuss the emergence of studies on left-wing authoritarianism, which was historically neglected in social psychology research. They delve into the development of scales to measure authoritarianism across the political spectrum, and explore the findings that link left-wing authoritarianism with concerning traits like low verbal ability, narcissism, and sadism.

The episode also examines Jussim's empirical research on how diversity and inclusion rhetoric may prime individuals to perceive bias in ambiguous situations. Additionally, Jussim shares his own experiences facing backlash and denunciation attempts from within academia after critiquing certain aspects of DEI ideologies. The episode provides insights into navigating such challenges while maintaining a commitment to truth.

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The historical neglect and recent investigation of left-wing authoritarianism in social psychology

For decades, social psychologists denied the existence of left-wing authoritarianism, according to Jordan Peterson and Lee Jussim. Only in 2016 did studies begin acknowledging this phenomenon. Defining and measuring authoritarianism on both the left and right remains complex, as it centers on the motivation to suppress one's political opponents.

The development and use of measures for left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism

Researchers like Jussim and Peterson developed validated scales to measure authoritarianism across the political spectrum. Their scales revealed authoritarian belief patterns among ideological groups. Notably, Jussim found low verbal ability strongly predicted left-wing authoritarianism - a concerning link. Applying these measures also uncovered troubling associations between left-wing authoritarianism and traits like narcissism and sadism.

Empirical research on the effects of diversity and inclusion rhetoric

Studies by Jussim exposed participants to rhetoric from influential DEI texts like "How to Be an Antiracist" and "White Fragility." After reading excerpts, participants perceived bias and microaggressions in ambiguous scenarios lacking racial information. These findings suggest DEI messaging may prime people to perceive racism with limited evidence.

The academic culture war, denunciation attempts, and strategies for dealing with them

Jussim faced backlash after critiquing DEI ideologies in psychology. Over 1,400 academics signed a letter denouncing him and colleagues as racists. Navigating this, Jussim stayed silent initially, documented events, activated supportive networks, and strategically counterattacked with a focus on truth over resentment.

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  • Left-wing authoritarianism in social psychology is a concept that involves the authoritarian tendencies found in individuals who lean towards left-wing political ideologies. This phenomenon was historically overlooked in psychological research until recent years. It focuses on the motivation to suppress political opponents from a left-leaning perspective, challenging traditional views that authoritarianism is solely a right-wing trait.
  • The development and use of measures for left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism involve creating tools to assess individuals' tendencies towards authoritarian beliefs on both ends of the political spectrum. Researchers like Jordan Peterson and Lee Jussim have worked on creating validated scales to quantify authoritarianism across different ideological groups. These scales help identify patterns of authoritarian thinking and behavior, shedding light on how these tendencies manifest in individuals with varying political leanings. By using these measures, researchers can uncover associations between authoritarianism and other traits, providing insights into the complexities of political attitudes and behaviors.
  • The academic culture war in this context involves conflicts within academia over ideological differences, particularly regarding issues like diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Denunciation attempts refer to efforts by some individuals or groups to publicly condemn or criticize others for their views or actions, often in a harsh or accusatory manner. These denunciations can lead to social and professional consequences for the targeted individuals, creating a contentious and polarized atmosphere within academic circles. Strategies for dealing with denunciation attempts may involve documenting events, seeking support from allies, and responding strategically to defend one's position or reputation.

Counterarguments

  • Social psychologists may have recognized forms of left-wing authoritarianism before 2016, but under different terminologies or frameworks.
  • The complexity of defining and measuring authoritarianism might be due to its manifestation in various forms that are not strictly bound to a left-right political spectrum.
  • Authoritarianism could also be motivated by factors other than the desire to suppress political opponents, such as fear of societal change or a desire for order and stability.
  • The validity of scales measuring authoritarianism can be questioned, as they may be influenced by the researchers' own biases or the sociopolitical context in which they were developed.
  • The correlation between low verbal ability and left-wing authoritarianism might not imply causation, and other factors could contribute to this relationship.
  • Associations between left-wing authoritarianism and traits like narcissism and sadism may not be unique to left-wing ideologies and could be found across various ideological spectrums.
  • DEI rhetoric is intended to raise awareness about systemic issues and might not necessarily prime individuals to perceive racism without evidence, but rather to be more attuned to subtle forms of discrimination.
  • Exposure to DEI texts could increase sensitivity to bias and microaggressions, which could be beneficial in reducing actual instances of racism and discrimination.
  • Critiques of DEI ideologies can be part of a healthy academic debate, and backlash may sometimes reflect a strong commitment to the principles of diversity, equity, and inclusion rather than an attempt to suppress dissent.
  • The denunciation of academics as racists could be based on a misinterpretation of their work or an overzealous defense of DEI principles, rather than an accurate assessment of their views.
  • Navigating backlash by focusing on truth over resentment is a strategy that assumes a clear distinction between the two, but the perception of truth can be subjective and influenced by one's own biases or ideological stance.

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The historical neglect and recent investigation of left-wing authoritarianism in social psychology

A long-standing denial among social psychologists regarding left-wing authoritarianism has recently been challenged as studies began to emerge, recognizing its existence and implications.

Social psychologists long denied the existence of left-wing authoritarianism, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

For 60 years, social psychologists refused to acknowledge the presence of identifiable left-wing authoritarian beliefs and groups, until a few studies in 2016 finally broke this denial.

Peterson and Jussim discuss the historical neglect in social psychology when it comes to the recognition of left-wing authoritarianism. They note that there was an absolute denial of this concept that persisted for six decades. Peterson highlights the gap in political analysis within the psychological community by recalling his supervision of a master's thesis that identified statistical clusters of left-wing authoritarian beliefs.

Jordan Peterson expresses astonishment at the field's failure to acknowledge left-wing authoritarianism, considering the significant impact of such ideologies in the 20th century. On the same note, Lee Jussim’s and Peterson's conversations reveal that there was a widespread neglect in acknowledging left-wing authoritarian movements—movements that they find evidently significant. Only in recent years, specifically since 2016, has there been an acceptance and acknowledgment within the field that left-wing authoritarianism exists.

The definition and measurement of left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism are complex but important for understanding political psychology.

Authoritarianism is a psychological construct defined by a motivation to suppress and deprive the rights of political opponents, which requires assessing attitudes towards one's ideological foes.

The talks between Peterson and Jussim imply that defining and measuring both left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism remains a complex endeavor critical to the understanding of political psychology. Auth ...

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  • Left-wing authoritarianism, characterized by a strong emphasis on collective control and equality, was overlooked in social psychology for decades. Despite evidence suggesting its existence, researchers hesitated to acknowledge this form of authoritarianism until recent studies challenged this denial. The recognition of left-wing authoritarianism has implications for understanding political behavior and psychological dynamics in society.
  • Defining and measuring left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism involves understanding individuals' tendencies to suppress and restrict the rights of those with differing political beliefs. This complexity arises from the need to assess attitudes towards ideological opponents, which can vary based on political orientation. It is crucial for political psychology as it provides insights into how different political ideologies manifest authoritarian tendencies and interact with power dynamics. Understanding these nuances helps researchers analyze the impact of authoritarian beliefs on political behavior and societal structures.
  • Developing non-partisan measures of authoritarianism is challenging becau ...

Counterarguments

  • The perception of denial among social psychologists may be more nuanced, with some researchers possibly recognizing left-wing authoritarianism but lacking a robust framework or facing academic pressures that discouraged exploration.
  • The claim of a 60-year denial could be an oversimplification, as the field of social psychology is diverse, and there may have been underrepresented studies or theories that did consider left-wing authoritarianism.
  • The emergence of studies on left-wing authoritarianism in 2016 might not represent a sudden acknowledgment but rather the culmination of a gradual shift in the field's focus and methodology.
  • The complexity of defining and measuring authoritarianism might not solely be due to the construct itself but also due to evolving political landscapes and the fluid nature of political ideologies.
  • The definition of authoritarianism as a motivation to suppress rights might be too narrow, as it could also encompass a desire for order, stability, or protection of perceived societal values.
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The development and use of measures for left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism

Researchers, including Lee Jussim and Jordan Peterson, have been investigating the psychological underpinnings of political beliefs by developing validated scales to measure authoritarianism on both the left and right sides of the spectrum.

Researchers have now developed validated scales to measure both left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism.

Jussim and Peterson have included measures of both left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism in their studies, leading to significant findings about the clustering of authoritarian beliefs among ideological groups. During their investigative work, they differentiated between the liberal left, which does not hold radical views, and an authoritarian left, which endorses more extreme and divisive political imagery.

The scales reveal statistical patterns and clusters of authoritarian beliefs among ideological groups on both the left and right.

The conceptual differentiation allowed Jussim to detail the use of statistical regression to separate liberalism from left-wing authoritarianism. Liberalism correlated with the endorsement of a "humanistic diversity image," whereas left-wing authoritarianism significantly predicted the endorsement of extreme political imagery.

Peterson discussed the method by which they analyzed a wide range of political opinions to determine if specific belief patterns were predictive of authoritarian tendencies. This systematic approach revealed the importance of individual psychological traits in predicting ideological leaning and authoritarian attitudes.

Using these measures, researchers have found that low verbal ability is a strong predictor of left-wing authoritarianism.

In their findings, Jussim and Peterson highlighted that low verbal ability emerged as the strongest predictor of left-wing authoritarianism, a significant and concerning correlation given its negative implications.

Applying these scales can provide important insights into the psychological underpinnings of polit ...

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  • The development of scales for measuring authoritarianism on both the left and right may be subject to confirmation bias, where researchers might unintentionally influence the scales to confirm their hypotheses or personal beliefs.
  • The scales might not capture the full complexity of political beliefs and could oversimplify the spectrum of authoritarian attitudes, potentially missing nuanced differences within ideological groups.
  • Correlation does not imply causation; therefore, the finding that low verbal ability is a strong predictor of left-wing authoritarianism does not necessarily mean that low verbal ability causes authoritarian views.
  • The scales may have cultural biases that limit their applicability across different societies or demographic groups, which could affect the generalizability of the findings.
  • The association between left-wing authoritarianism and traits like narcissism or sadism could be influenced by other variables not accounted for in the studies, such as socioec ...

Actionables

  • You can enhance your critical thinking by regularly evaluating your own beliefs against the scales mentioned for authoritarianism. Start by researching the characteristics of left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism and then reflect on your own beliefs to see where they align or differ. This self-assessment can help you understand your own political biases and the psychological factors that may influence them.
  • Develop a personal journaling habit to explore the relationship between language skills and political beliefs. Dedicate time each week to write about current events and political issues, focusing on articulating your thoughts clearly. This practice can help improve your verbal abilities and provide insight into how they shape your understanding and stance on political matters.
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Empirical research on the effects of diversity and inclusion rhetoric

Recent studies have begun to unveil the psychological impact of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) rhetoric. These findings point to how exposure to DEI ideologies can alter perceptions of racism and bias in situations where evidence of such issues may be limited or absent.

Researchers have investigated the psychological impact of common diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) rhetoric and messaging.

Lee Jussim introduces the conversation by discussing experimental studies that assess the psychological impacts of common DEI rhetoric. It's important to note that these studies were not evaluating the effectiveness of specific DEI programs but rather the rhetoric that is frequently found in DEI materials used in various educational and professional settings.

They used passages from influential DEI texts like Kendi's "How to Be an Antiracist" and D'Angelo's "White Fragility" to expose participants to this type of rhetoric.

Jussim explains that their experiment involved presenting participants with anti-racism rhetoric directly from influential DEI texts such as "How to Be an Antiracist" by Ibram X. Kendi and "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo. These texts were chosen for their prominence and widespread use across numerous DEI interventions.

After reading these passages, participants perceived more bias and microaggressions in ambiguous scenarios, even when no racial information was provided.

After validating the prominence of the passages in college and professional training materials, Jussim describes an observational study that followed. Participants, after reading just a single paragraph from the combined excerpts of "How to Be an Antiracist" and "White Fragility" supplemented by additional writing from the researchers, were more likely to contrive racism in scenarios that provided no explicit evidence of it. For example, in a scenario where a college applicant is rejected by an admissions officer, those who read the ...

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  • The interpretation of the studies might be too narrow, and it's possible that the increased perception of bias is due to a heightened awareness of subtle forms of discrimination rather than an over-identification of racism.
  • The studies may not account for the context in which DEI rhetoric is typically presented, such as alongside discussions of historical and systemic inequalities, which could influence how individuals interpret ambiguous scenarios.
  • The findings could be influenced by the selection of DEI materials and the design of the experiments, which may not accurately represent the broader range of DEI rhetoric and its effects.
  • The studies might not consider the positive outcomes of DEI rhetoric, such as increased empathy, inclusivity, and a better understanding of diverse perspectives, which could balance or outweigh the identified negative impacts.
  • The psychological impact of DEI rhetoric could vary widely among individuals, and the studies may not capture this diversity, leading to overgeneralizations about its effects.
  • The research might not sufficiently differentiate between the impact of DEI rhetoric and the participants' pre-existing beliefs or biases, which ...

Actionables

  • You can reflect on your own biases by keeping a journal where you note down instances where you might have perceived bias or racism in your daily life. Write about the context and your initial thoughts, and then revisit these entries after a week to see if your perspective has changed with time and additional information. This practice can help you understand how immediate reactions to ambiguous situations might be influenced by recent exposure to certain ideologies.
  • Start a book club with friends or colleagues focusing on a variety of perspectives, including but not limited to DEI literature. After reading each book, discuss whether and how the book changed your perception of bias and racism. This can provide a broader context and help you see how different types of literature, not just DEI texts, can influence your thoughts and perceptions.
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The academic culture war, denunciation attempts, and strategies for dealing with them

In an environment that fiercely backlashes against research or perspectives critical of dominant DEI ideologies, scholars like Lee Jussim find themselves in the crosshairs of academic controversy.

Researchers who publish findings or perspectives critical of dominant DEI ideologies often face fierce backlash and attempts at cancellation

Lee Jussim and colleagues experienced pushback after engaging in scholarly critique of the current state of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) ideologies in psychology. After Jussim published a commentary critiquing the narrow framing of diversity and pointing out the political homogeneity in academia, over 1,400 academics signed a letter denouncing him and his colleagues as racists.

When Lee Jussim and colleagues published commentaries critiquing the narrow framing of diversity in psychology, over 1,400 academics signed a letter denouncing them as racists

Jussim's involvement in a controversy known as the "Pops Fiasco Racist Mule Trope," which he details on his sub-stack site Unsafe Science, is a case in point. An analogy he used from "Fiddler on the Roof" was misinterpreted as comparing black people to mules, spurring the denouncement. Following this, the journal Perspectives on Psychological Science's editor, Klaus Fiedler, was ousted, and the papers were blocked from publication during a protracted dispute.

Jussim recounts the drama involving an open letter demanding the retraction of papers and the editor's firing resulted in about two-thirds of the editorial board resigning, either in protest or to avoid trouble. The journal, through the Association for Psychological Science, took almost two years to resolve these issues which involved silence and obstacles.

Jussim drew on past experience to navigate these denunciation attempts, employing effective strategies

Jussim's strategy in facing these challenges was multifaceted. First and foremost, he advises going silent initially and thoroughly documenting the process—steps that serve as a foundation to weather the storm of denouncement unscathed. This approach also includes activating supportive professional networks; individuals tend to be more vulnerable when perceived to be isolated.

Staying silent initially, thoroughly documenting the process, and activating supportive professional networks were key to weathering the storm

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  • DEI ideologies stand for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion ideologies. These ideologies focus on promoting diversity, ensuring equity, and fostering inclusivity in various aspects of society, including academia and workplaces. They aim to address systemic inequalities and create environments where individuals from diverse backgrounds feel valued and included. Critics may challenge these ideologies, leading to debates and controversies within academic and professional settings.
  • Perspectives on Psychological Science is a respected academic journal in the field of psychology, known for publishing peer-reviewed research articles. The journal was founded in 2006 and is currently published by SAGE Publications on behalf of the Association for Psychological Science. It has a high impact factor, indicating its influence in the academic community. The journal follows ethical guidelines set by the Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE).
  • The Association for Psychological Science (APS) is an international non-profit organization that promotes scientifically oriented psychology through research, teaching, and improving human welfare. APS publishes journals, hosts annual meetings, and advocates for scientific psychology with policymakers. Founded in 1988, APS was established by researchers and practitioners who believed the American Psychological Association (APA) did not adequately support scientific research. The APS was created to provide a platform specifically focused on advancing scientific psychology at the national and international levels.
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Counterarguments

  • Researchers should be open to critique and debate, and the backlash may sometimes stem from a perceived lack of openness or engagement with constructive criticism.
  • The number of academics denouncing Jussim could indicate a broader concern within the academic community that merits further examination rather than outright dismissal.
  • The controversy over the misinterpreted analogy might highlight the need for clearer communication and the potential dangers of using analogies that can be easily misconstrued.
  • While staying silent and documenting the process can be strategic, there may be situations where early and clear communication could prevent misunderstandings and de-escalate tensions.
  • Activating professional networks could be seen as rallying support rather than addressing the substance of the critique, which could be counterproductive in fostering open academic discourse.
  • Countering denunciations with essays focusing on truth and justice is commendable, but it's also important to ensure that such responses engage with the substance of the criticism and do not dismiss it outright.
  • Strategic counterattacks, even ...

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