In this episode of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, Mark Changizi introduces theories that human color vision evolved not just for detecting ripe fruit, but for perceiving emotional and health cues through skin tone variations. Changizi and Peterson examine how emotional displays function as signals that negotiate social interactions, ensuring cooperation and maintaining reputations.
They explore how aspects of language and music reflect the human brain's pattern recognition, mimicking sounds from environment and movement. The discussion covers how written and spoken language forms leverage the visual system's processing of natural scenes and acoustic patterns, while music capitalizes on the perception of body motion to amplify emotional impact.
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According to Mark Changizi, the unusual placement of the middle and long wavelength color receptors in the human eye is optimized for detecting skin tone variations that signal emotional states and physical health. This contradicts the traditional hypothesis linking color vision solely to fruit detection.
Changizi notes the receptors' sensitivity aligns with hemoglobin's changing colors when oxygenated or deoxygenated, allowing us to perceive blood circulation and internal states through skin color. He suggests emotions manifest as facial color gradients, further evidenced by primates with color vision displaying exposed, expressive skin.
Changizi and Jordan Peterson discuss how involuntary expressions like blushing function as honest signals of intent, fostering trust and cooperation. Emotional signals evolved as non-verbal negotiation tools to regulate social dynamics without language.
Ensuring a positive reputation increases the likelihood of receiving future support. Changizi compares social narratives tracking reputations over time to blockchain ledgers. Online, pseudonymous identities with accrued reputations can regulate behavior similarly to in-person interactions.
Gossip recounts changes in individual social capital, serving as a collective memory influencing the social order.
Changizi states written forms have culturally evolved to resemble natural scenes, utilizing patterns like junctions that appear in the environment. This visual familiarity allows effortless reading development in children.
Changizi suggests phonetic elements like consonants, vowels, and syllables mimic sounds from collisions, vibrations, and resonances - reflecting the physics of interacting solid objects.
Music exaggerates patterns like Doppler shifts that occur with movement. Its elements like tempo and pitch range correlate with human kinetic patterns, synchronizing music with physical actions. This taps into the brain's movement recognition systems, amplifying music's social and emotional effects.
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This comparison highlights how reputations in social interactions can be seen as a ledger of past actions and behaviors, much like how blockchain technology records transactions. Just as blockchain ensures transparency and immutability in transactions, social narratives and gossip can serve as a collective memory of individuals' reputations over time. The analogy emphasizes the role of reputation management and accountability in both digital and social contexts.
Emerging theories suggest that human color vision evolved as a mechanism to better interpret social and health-related cues from others, not solely for environmental tasks such as identifying ripe fruit.
Mark Changizi and Jordan Peterson explore the evolution of color vision, suggesting it serves a broader purpose in social interaction than previously thought. They delve into the intricate relationship between color perception and our ability to discern emotional states and physical well-being.
Changizi proposes that the traditional hypothesis, which links primate color vision to fruit detection, lacks strong evidence. Noting the similarity in color vision across varied primate diets, he points to the unique arrangement of the middle and long-wavelength color receptors in the eye. Instead of being spread across the visual spectrum like an RGB camera, these receptors are situated closely together in terms of wavelength sensitivity—an arrangement that seems to be fine-tuned for detecting subtle changes in skin tone rather than fruit.
These receptivity patterns align with the spectrum of hemoglobin changes between its oxygenated and deoxygenated states. Changizi elaborates that our color vision's fine sensitivity to these changes is due to the specific placement of the relevant cones in our eyes. This sensitivity allows us to detect signals produced by blood circulation under the skin, which convey a person's emotional state and health.
Changizi also notes that certain emotions can cause different color gradients on the face. Moreover, the entire body can exhibit color variations connected to emotional and health statuses. This capability is particularly evident in primates with color vision, wh ...
Theories on the evolution of human perception and sensory capabilities (e.g. color vision)
In a conversation between Changizi and Peterson, the importance of emotional expression and reputation is put forth as a central factor in human social interaction and communication.
Changizi and Peterson discuss the role of blushing as an honest signal. This involuntary response can indicate self-conscious shame and the inability to get away with violating social norms, thus facilitating social trust. Our faces and skin, especially our faces, function as mechanisms to display emotion, allowing others to read our intentions and desires. Honest signals, such as genuine laughter and spontaneous smiles, are clear, outward signs that make it easier for others to trust and engage in cooperative interactions because they suggest that a person is showing their true emotions and intentions.
Changizi suggests that before social signaling evolved, animals like sharks felt emotions but did not need to communicate them. In contrast, social animals require an optimal signaling system to negotiate and compromise without spoken language. Emotional expressions function as non-verbal negotiation tools, similar to staking chips in poker.
Peterson brings up the concept of reciprocal play among animals like juvenile rats, which establishes social order. Successful hunters in hunter-gatherer societies should manage their reputation and not hoard physical rewards to ensure cooperation and minimize jealousy within the group.
Changizi ties emotional expressions directly to color modulations that may be visible through our color vision, suggesting that our sense may have evolved to detect honest emotional signals such as blushing.
Moreover, reputation, bolstered by past generous actions, increases the likelihood of receiving future help if faced with difficulties. Changizi and Peterson discuss that ensuring a good reputation through actions is key to thriving within a social group.
Changizi compares social narratives to blockchain, a system that preserves reputation over time. These narratives, while crucial for maintaining social order, can perpetuate historical falsehoods or stereotypes.
On the internet, anonymity can lead to misbehavior due to the lack of reputational consequences. However, daily encounters with strangers ...
The role of emotional expression and reputation in human social interaction and communication
The origins and evolution of human language, writing, and music have been a significant focus of scientific inquiry. These cultural and cognitive adaptations appear to have evolved to align with our sensory and perceptual capabilities, enabling the development of sophisticated communication forms.
Mark Changizi outlines the evolutionary process that has shaped written language to resemble natural visual scenes that the human visual system is adept at processing. Changizi states that writing has culturally evolved to look like natural objects, which allows people to read with apparent ease, often at a very young age with minimal practice. This suggests that reading operates similarly to an instinct, given there are areas in the brain associated specifically with visual word recognition. Cultural evolution has shaped the appearance of written language to employ patterns and features such as L and T junctions, emulating the intersections and overlaps that occur when objects in our environment interface with each other. He explains that there are 32 topologically distinct junctions involving three contours that occur in natural scenes, and these types of junctions appear in human writing systems proportional to their occurrences in nature.
Changizi further suggests that spoken language has evolved to sound like solid object physical events. For example, plosives such as "puh," "duh," and "kuh" mimic collisions, while fricatives and sonorants imitate sliding sounds and vibrations, or ringing, respectively. The concept of a syllable, described as a "hit and a ring," reflects the natural sound of a collision followed by a subsequent resonance. Mathematical regularities in the physical events of solid objects interacting are mirrored as universals in human language across different cultures.
Music is intrinsically different from speech but evokes a sense of the sounds of human movement. Elements such as the rhythm of footsteps (gait) are mirrored in music through beats and loudness modulations that create a narrative of human k ...
The origins and evolution of human language, writing, and music as cultural/cognitive adaptations
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