#2340 - Charley Crockett

In an in-depth discussion, Charley Crockett and Joe Rogan express doubt over historical events and government narratives, like the moon landing and the dealings of the medical industry during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Charley Crockett and Joe Rogan Doubt Historical Events and Government Narratives, like the Moon Landing and Medical Industry

Rogan references a researcher named Bart Sibrel who claims that the moon landing was fabricated. Rogan and Crockett ponder why, given the moon’s rare minerals, there isn't a base there, casting further doubt on the legitimacy of the moon landing. They discuss the moon landing footage, suggesting its inauthenticity.

Crockett and Rogan On the Challenge Of Discerning Reality Amid Ai Advancements and Institutional Misinformation

Joe Rogan considers the advancements in artificial intelligence to be worrying, citing a new AI engine capable of creating video footage that is indistinguishable from reality. He ponders a future where distinguishing between real and artifical experiences might be impossible. Crockett even suggests that advanced AI may have contributed to the collapse of ancient civilizations, calling into question the reliability of accepted historical narratives.

Pandemic Eroded Trust in Authorities and Highlighted Willingness to Mislead Public

Throughout the conversation, Rogan criticizes how the COVID-19 pandemic was handled by authorities and how it exemplified the dissemination of misinformation by those in power. He shares personal anecdotes about his own elderly parents being gripped by fear and only relying on doctors’ advice, despite there being other valid viewpoints available. Both Crockett and Rogan exhibit an overarching skepticism toward the medical industry, with Rogan highlighting a shift in his perspective about the privatized nature of hospitals and their financial incentives, especially ob ...

The podcast with Crockett and Rogan delves into the complex and often exploitative nature of the music industry, highlighting the evolution and struggles of artists who have sought to bring authenticity and autonomy to their careers.

Crockett and Rogan on Nashville Music Industry's Exploitation and Artists Like Jennings and Nelson Challenging It

Discussing the Nashville music industry, Crockett describes how it historically took advantage of 'poor farm boys', 'poor black artists from the South', and women, with few if any getting a good deal. He cites Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings as artists who, despite terrible business deals, had their careers developed through the production of multiple records each year, which was instrumental to their artistic growth.

Crockett emphasizes Jennings' critical role in challenging the Nashville system's control by insisting on using his own band and studio. He highlights that Nelson, despite being dubbed "weird" by the establishment and neglected under RCA Records, and Jennings, experiencing financial hardship even while topping charts due to exploitative systems, set precedents for artist independence.

Industry's Evolution: "Money Guitar" Emphasis on Short-Term Success Over Artistry and Authenticity

Crockett introduces the concept of "money guitar," akin to "Moneyball" in sports, highlighting a shift in the industry's focus from artist development to maximizing short-term potential. He contrasts the past business model, which included artist development, with current practices that aim for quick success through viral hits but often fail to sustain long-term careers.

Crockett on Major Labels Overlooking Him and Maintaining Integrity

Crockett reflects on how being overlooked by major labels early in his career was a blessing, allowing him to make many records and maintain his artistic integrity. Even after gaining some interest from major labels, he decided to maintain control over his music, emphasizing his stance on authenticity over conformity to the industry's prefabricated molds.

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The narrative of Charley Crockett's path from a New York street performer to a successful artist encapsulates his priority for authenticity over commercialism and demonstrates his commitment to preserving his roots in his music.

Crockett's Path: Street Performer to Successful Artist, Authenticity Over Commercialism

Charley Crockett’s story begins on the streets of New York as he ventured into becoming an artist. Eventually, moving onto subway platforms due to competition and policing, Crockett embarked on a journey of self-discovery and improvisation, where he learned to play the guitar and develop his unique style.

Crockett on how Poverty, Gambling, and Hustling Shape His Raw, Honest Music

Crockett brings raw honesty to his music, influenced by his personal experiences of poverty and the hustle of his upbringing. He reflects on how his early music got validation from strangers in California and his mother's encouragement. His journey saw him leading bands, getting his first gig at Darwin's Pub in Austin, and eventually crafting a rigorous touring schedule that took him across the country and exposed him to diverse audiences.

He also discusses the impact of gambling, as seen through his time in casinos with his uncle, and the imprint of hustling, both of which significantly shaped his music. When Crockett finally walked out of his Texas hometown with nothing but a guitar, it allowed him to explore his true self through his stories, music, and collaboration with the world.

Finding One's Path As an Artist

Crockett's constant hustle, illustrated by his packed shows, speaks to his journey as an artist. From his European street performances to blues clubs in Copenhagen, he noticed the cultural value attached to his Texan identity. He expresses the importance of finding one's purpose and remaining true to one’s cultural roots as they forge their artistic identity.

Crockett Values Collaborations With Artists Like Shooter Jennings to Refine His Vision While Keeping His Identity and ...

Charley Crockett delves into his history as a street performer in New York City, detailing how it sharpened his skills and enriched his connection with audiences.

Crockett on Street Performing In NYC: Honing Craft and Understanding Authentic Audience Connection

Crockett reflects on his formative experiences with street performing, which presented not only a creative outlet but also a steep learning curve in dealing with the practicalities of such a pursuit, such as navigating city traffic and evading law enforcement. He credits his brother with instilling a promotional mentality, which proved invaluable as he marketed himself on the streets.

Collaboration With Street Performers Expanded His Artistic Horizons

Influenced by other street artists like Jadon Woodard and a guitar player called Ghost, Crockett expanded his artistic horizons. Their approach to performance, particularly in subway cars, left a lasting impact on him. These collaborations, which included working with trumpet players and spoken word rappers, helped broaden the scope of his performances and refine his artistic vision.

Crockett on the Challenges and Rewards Of Captivating an Uninterested Audience and Its Impact on His Connection With Listeners

NYC street performing taught Crockett valuable lessons in drawing in an audience. He was candid about the tough reality that many passersby simply don't want to be bothered and are immersed in their own routines. Despite this, he highlights the power of genuine street art to engage even the most disinterested individuals and the fulfilling experience of turning a commuter’s indifference into enthusiasm.

Crockett's street artistry helped him learn to quickly captivate audiences, turning zones of disinterest, such as subway cars, into platforms for connecting with people on a profound level. This expertise in grabbing attention and striking a chord with listeners translated into performances that were ...

Joe Rogan and Charley Crockett delve into the essential nature of authenticity in an artist’s career and the dangers of imitation.

Rogan and Crockett on the Perils Of Imitating Artists and Cultivating Unique Identity

Charley Crockett recalls his mother's advice on the importance of honesty in his musical expression. Not falsely praising him, she encouraged sincerity in his art. Crockett emphasizes being genuine and not just a product of commercials or societal influence. He and Rogan note the distinct cousin-like relationship between comedy and music, pointing out that authenticity and not imitating others leads to true self-expression.

Bill Hicks and "Texas Style" Comedy: Subversive Comedians Who Refused to Conform

Crockett and Rogan discuss the late comedian Bill Hicks, noting his Texan identity and his subversive take on criticizing both sides of the political spectrum. Rogan recalls Hicks performing fearlessly in Boston with unconventional material. They also touch on the influence of Hicks and Kennison in defining the rebellious Texas style of comedy, reflecting the need for genuine performance and the authenticity required in the arts.

Crockett Resists Replicating Heroes' Styles Like Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson, Developing an Original Identity

Crockett talks about the prevalence of imitation among Texas songwriters and country artists and the importance of charting one's course. After touring with Willie Nelson, he observed some felt they deserved the opportunity more due to their closer emulation of Nelson’s style. But Crockett's original path led him to opportunities like working with Shooter Jennings. His story underlines the significance of staying true to on ...