In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan and guest Kurt Metzger delve into suspicions about unethical and covert government activities. They discuss historical incidents that raise concerns about the government conducting unauthorized experiments on citizens and suppressing information.
Rogan and Metzger also speculate about the origins and capabilities of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs). They entertain theories suggesting advanced military or extraterrestrial technology. Throughout the conversation, Metzger and Rogan express distrust of mainstream media narratives, question the credibility of scientific and medical institutions, and suggest a lack of government transparency on various issues.
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Joe Rogan and Kurt Metzger discuss historical incidents where the government conducted secret experiments on citizens without consent. They cite examples like "Operation Sea Spray" where the U.S. Navy sprayed bacteria over San Francisco, leading to infections and death. They also point to cases of spraying radioactive materials in St. Louis and on Black children in Chicago.
Metzger raises suspicions that the government manufactures viruses and attributes outbreaks to incidental causes. Rogan expresses concern over the repeal of a propaganda ban, allowing the government to disseminate news to Americans.
They discuss how the CIA and similar agencies might control narratives through tactics like changing terminology and psychological operations campaigns, and how agencies admit to certain activities in ways that the public tends to forget.
Rogan references vintage experimental aircraft like the X-Jet from the 1970s, implying current public technology may lag behind what's developed in secrecy.
They speculate that some UAPs might exhibit extraordinary capabilities beyond human technology, suggesting advanced military or extraterrestrial origins. Rogan cites Zechariah Sitchin's theories on the Anunnaki civilization using gold for geoengineering.
Discussions include alleged human encounters with alien beings like "tall whites" and claims that Obama worked with them. Metzger humorously entertains accelerated human evolution by external influences.
Metzger claims negative experiences that reinforce his view the media manipulates narratives, while Rogan highlights stories initially labeled "conspiracy theories" being acknowledged later.
They imply the media could spread government propaganda, citing incidents like UAP disclosures. Metzger criticizes narratives like the "carbon footprint" concept coined by BP.
Metzger disapproves of how scientific awards might control narratives. They discuss the media's and scientists' misinformation without repercussions.
Rogan and Metzger convey skepticism about Dr. Fauci's COVID-19 response and suggest ignoring important factors like diet and exercise.
They suggest a "deep state" power structure influences policy beyond public visibility, citing lack of oversight on issues like UAP disclosure and gain-of-function research.
Rogan and Metzger claim celebrities' political endorsements could be propaganda, and that wealthy individuals like the Gates Foundation improperly influence education systems.
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The hosts discuss various allegations of the U.S. government conducting unethical or illegal operations and efforts to cover them up.
Joe Rogan and Kurt Metzger touch upon several historical instances of the government conducting secret experiments on citizens. They point out that in the 1950s, specifically during "Operation Sea Spray," the U.S. Navy sprayed bacteria over San Francisco to determine the city’s vulnerability to bioweapons. This experiment led to at least one death and numerous infections. The Army had monitoring equipment at 43 locations within the city, revealing that nearly all San Francisco residents inhaled the bacteria, which was within the infectivity range for anthrax.
Metzger references other incidents of the government spraying substances on populations, initially confusing an LSD incident in San Francisco with cobalt spraying in St. Louis. He corrects by noting that it was cobalt, a radioactive material. They discuss Cold War experiments in a St. Louis neighborhood where the Army sprayed zinc cadmium sulfide into the air under the guise of testing a smokescreen against aerial observation. Metzger also brings up an event where cobalt was dumped on Black children in Chicago, and the CIA is implicated in experimenting on a citizen by putting a brain chip in a man's head without his knowledge.
Kurt Metzger raises suspicions about the intent of gain-of-function research, suggesting some believe the government manufactures viruses in labs and attributes outbreaks to incidental causes. He references the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, claiming it allows the government to propagandize its citizens. Joe Rogan discusses the repeal of a propaganda ban that permits government-made news to be disseminated to Americans and is concerned about the use of propaganda without public consent.
Rogan and Metzger delve into broader themes of government ...
Allegations of Unethical/Illegal Government Activities and Cover-Ups
Joe Rogan and Kurt Metzger delve into discussions about advanced technology that may have been concealed from the public domain, including the astounding capabilities of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) and tales of extraterrestrial contact.
Rogan and Metzger reminisce about past instances where the public witnessed technology that seemed well ahead of its time.
Rogan brings up the X-Jet, a vintage flying chair from the 1970s with surprising capabilities like a 60-mile-per-hour travel speed and an altitude reach of up to 10,000 feet. Discussions of such experimental craft suggest that current public technology might lag behind what has been, and perhaps still is, developed in secrecy.
Rogan speculates that some UAPs could exhibit behaviors and capabilities that surpass human technology, such as extraordinary underwater and space velocities. This notion leads to a discussion about whether these phenomena might be advanced military technology or stem from extraterrestrial origins.
Metzger postulates that the technology we see today might be decades behind what's available to covert operations, referencing the idea that UAPs could indeed be military tech. They also discuss the rebranding of UFOs to UAPs, hinting that this might be a strategic move to transform the conversation around these mysterious sightings.
Rogan references "The Twelfth Planet" by Zechariah Sitchin, discussing the Anunnaki—an alien race that purportedly seeded human civilization and required gold to repair their planet's atmosphere, a concept Rogan finds parallels in today's geoengineering theories. This comparison extends into current technological uses for gold and other materials possibly linked to speculative advanced technologies.
In discussing the potential of extraterrestrials interacting with humanity, Rogan and Metzger touch on Charles Hall's claims of living among 'tall whites' in Nevada. This conversation traverses various alien types, from the notorious Reptilians to the Nordics, while exploring the diverse technologies and capabilities often attributed to these beings in alien lore ...
Speculation About Advanced/Extraterrestrial Technology
Kurt Metzger and Joe Rogan engage in a detailed conversation that reflects a significant distrust and criticism of the mainstream media, scientific institutions, and the government, questioning their objectivity, credibility, and transparency.
Metzger discusses his own negative experiences with the media, reinforcing his view that they have the power to manipulate narratives. Rogan adds to this by pointing out the media’s labeling of certain topics as "conspiracy theories," only later to acknowledge them as truths.
Referencing various incidents, including government UAP disclosures and the behavior of former intelligence officials, they imply that media could be complicit in spreading government propaganda. Metzger criticizes the media’s messaging around scientific health claims, expressing skepticism towards narratives like the concept of a 'carbon footprint' coined by BP. Rogan and Metzger discuss historical instances of misinformation, suggesting that the panic following Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" was exaggerated and presented as fact.
Metzger expresses his disapproval of scientific awards and how they might be used to control narratives within the scientific community. Rogan and Metzger discuss the media's and scientists' histories of being supposedly wrong yet face no repercussions for misinformation.
The conversation shifts to public health figures like Dr. Fauci. Rogan and Metzger convey skepticism about Fauci’s handling of public health during the COVID-19 pandemic and suggest his management of the crisis was narrow and potentially misguided. Rogan criticizes the role of diet and exercise in public health policies, implying important information is being ignored.
Metzger and Rogan articulate deep mistrust in the government due to various factors, including manipulation by intelligence agencies and questionable decision-making within the scientific community.
They suggest the existence of a deeper, more perman ...
Distrust and Criticism of Mainstream Media, Science, Government
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