#2244 - Ryan Graves

The discussion about unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), led by Ryan Graves and Joe Rogan, raises awareness of mysterious objects spotted by pilots and detected by various sensors, exhibiting advanced and anomalous capabilities.

Numerous reports of mysterious aerial objects exhibiting advanced, anomalous capabilities

Ryan Graves, an aerospace engineer and Navy fighter pilot, has brought attention to incidents that include UAP being observed around military installations and exhibiting unusual behaviors.

Pilots have observed these objects moving at extreme speeds, making sharp turns, and disappearing from sensors

Pilots, such as Graves, have noted that some objects are capable of extraordinary maneuvers, such as high-G turns at low airspeeds, and moving at supersonic speeds, typically eastward over water. These objects demonstrate the ability to operate in ways that conventional aircraft cannot, such as being stationary, meandering at moderate speeds without formation, and executing sharp turns that suggest a significant power source.

Sensors like radars and infrared cameras have detected the presence of these objects, but they often seem to evade detection or suppress their signatures

Advanced radars have detected these objects, which were not picked up by older systems. However, they sometimes evade sophisticated detection methods, such as radar and infrared cameras, and suppress their signatures. For instance, the infrared signatures do not match those of conventional jets, suggesting these are not standard aircraft. Despite detection by some sensors, there have been instances when visual confirmation failed, as the objects were not visible upon close approach.

The objects have been spotted in various locations across the United States, particularly along the East Coast

Graves discusses the presence of these objects primarily along the East Coast but notes instances across the United States from New ...

Public figures including Ryan Graves and Joe Rogan explore various theories regarding the mysterious aerial objects, with discussions ranging from foreign tech to extraterrestrial origins.

The objects may be advanced technology belonging to a foreign adversary like China or Russia

Graves mentions the concerning idea that adversarial nations like Russia or China could be deploying unknown technologies on U.S. soil, which could be tantamount to a declaration of war. He speculates about these nations using criminal gangs to ensure deniability, observing U.S. response, and detecting gaps in homeland defense systems.

Their ability to evade detection and demonstrate capabilities beyond known technology is troubling

Rogan and Graves discuss the advanced technology and superior capabilities of the objects that have been evading detection. Considering the logistics and intentions behind these objects' presence—such as searching for missing radioactive material—is complex.

However, the logistics of a foreign power operating such a large number of drones off the US coast is questionable

The idea of a foreign adversary like Iran, China, or Russia being capable of operating off the East Coast without detection is considered doubtful by Graves, considering the difficulty of being stealthy, launching drones from a ship, and establishing a point of origin. It's also considered strange that hundreds of such drones could operate without detection or failure.

The objects could be of extraterrestrial or interdimensional origin

Joe Rogan entertains the hypothesis that the objects may be of extraterrestrial or interdimensional origin, with discussions extending to the idea that they might have been observing humanity or ensuring we do not destroy ourselves.

The performance characteristics of the objects seem to exceed human technological capabilities

Graves discusses the energy expenditure of the objects equating to multiple nuclear bombs, suggesting a technology beyond current human capabilities. Rogan speculates that these objects, with their incredible speeds and resilience, could have always been here or live in the ocean.

Some speculate the objects may be part of an ongoing alien visitation or monitoring program

The idea that these phenomena might indicate Earth's entry into a wider community of intelligent life is discussed, with various notions about what these visitors would be like, such as advanced and enlightene ...

The governmental and military response to unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is being scrutinized for its apparent reticence to provide clarity and comprehensive information on the topic. Graves and Rogan discuss the complex and sometimes paradoxical stance of authorities as they navigate the murky waters of UAP disclosure.

The government and military seem reluctant to provide clear, comprehensive information about the UAP phenomenon

Officials have denied the existence of certain classified briefings and information related to the topic

Graves suggests that the government may be as in the dark about these UAPs as the public, citing uncertainties among government officials regarding the origins or operations of the objects. Despite awareness among senior congressmen and Coast Guard personnel, there is a lack of clarity. Ryan Graves notes having conversations with people in Congress and the Executive Branch, hinting at an engagement with governmental representatives about the UAP issue. The discussion touches on a possible lack of transparency in government, mentioning whistleblowers from the executive branch, classified programs, and the difference between public assertions and private knowledge.

There appear to be legal and bureaucratic obstacles to investigating and addressing the UAP issue

Graves details the cumbersome processes and bureaucratic hurdles that impact the investigation of UAPs, such as the need for a 120-page report to intercept signals or requests that must go all the way up to the secretary of defense. He suggests that such antiquated laws slow down the investigation. Additionally, the hosts discuss the executive order and the National Security Act, which allow for classified information creation and contribute to legal complexities that hamstring the investigation.

Lack of coordinated, high-level governmental effort to study and understand the UAP

Current investigative efforts are largely fragmented and siloed within different agencies

The conversation reflects concerns about the absence of a centralized effort within the U.S. government to address UAP sightings comprehensively. Graves criticizes the current structure within the Pentagon for handling UAP issues, suggesting it lacks effectiveness and may have conflicts of interest.

A more centralized, well-resourced, and transparent approach is needed to make progress

Graves emphasizes the need for a national priority and a high-level focus with senior White House figures like the Office of Science and Technology Policy. He calls for the involvement of the scientific and academic community and the removal of stigma surrounding UAP research, ...

Joe Rogan and Ryan Graves discuss the unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) and speculate on the possible ramifications of disclosure regarding UAP's true nature, which could be transformative for society and geopolitics.

Disclosure of the true nature of the UAP could have profound societal and technological implications

Rogan suggests that the government may be gradually introducing the concept of UAPs to avoid mass panic—indicating that disclosure could have significant societal effects. He believes that if humanity learned from these entities, it could lead to a radically enlightened state of existence for humans. This implies that disclosure could drastically change our understanding and trajectory as a species.

It could radically reshape our understanding of the universe and humanity's place in it

Rogan emphasizes that confirming we are part of a community of intelligent life would revolutionize our grasp on our place in the universe and inspire collaboration. Graves adds that this knowledge could revamp religious beliefs and academic fields, and knowing which technologies to pursue could result in a "positive nuclear bomb" level leap in capabilities.

It could spur a technological revolution by unlocking new scientific and engineering breakthroughs

Graves discusses how a full understanding of the technology associated with UAP could open new fields of knowledge and lead to breakthroughs in science and technology. Rogan echoes this, noting that confirmation of such technology would necessitate a global effort to understand and replicate it, potentially revolutionizing our technology.

The geopolitical landscape could be drastically altered if the UAP are linked to a foreign power

If these objects were associated with a foreign power, Rogan hints at the potential geopolitical implications. He specifically points to the technological and strategic advantage this would represent and suggests that it could prompt heightened tensions and an arms race. The discussion indicates that whoever first develops certain technologies, like gravity-based propulsion systems, would have a significant competitive edge.

It would represent a major strategic and technological advantage that could shift the balance of power

A foreign power's link to UAP could provide that nation with a major strategic edge, potentially shifting the balance of global power. Rogan alludes to the risk if a country like China has developed superior drone technology, which could disrupt international relations.

It could escalate tensions and spur an arms race as countries compete to understand and replicate the technology

Rogan indicates that the public is tired of being kept in the dark, showing that disclosure could significantly impact public knowledge and perception. Graves underscores the seriousness of the unknown nature of UAP, implying that comprehending them could have consequential geopolitical outcomes.

The suppression of information about the UAP may have allowed adversaries to gain a technological edge

Graves touches on the potential ramifications of withholding UAP information, particularly concerning ...