This episode of The Diary Of A CEO podcast delves into the science of habit formation and behavior change. Professor Steve Peters explains the three brain systems—logical, emotional, and computer—that govern our actions. Nir Eyal and Steven Bartlett join the discussion, highlighting the role of self-perception and internal reframing in establishing new habits.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of psychological mindedness, taking responsibility for one's thoughts and actions. Rather than relying on motivation, the guests advocate commitment to actions that reinforce desired behaviors over time. They also suggest helpful strategies like commitment devices and rewards to cultivate sustainable change.
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Peters explains three distinct brain systems that drive our behavior: the logical human system, which promotes rational thinking but is slow; the emotional chimp system, which triggers faster but more impulsive reactions; and the computer system, operating far quicker than both human and chimp systems.
Nir Eyal discusses reframing internal triggers to combat distractions. Peters notes that self-perception shapes habits: viewing oneself as untidy lowers motivation to stay organized, while adopting a "tidy" self-image drives tidiness. Change occurs when perceived pain from the status quo exceeds that of changing, such as discomfort from messiness or relationship strain.
Steven Bartlett highlights willpower's limits; over-restriction impedes habit formation. Suppressing thoughts diminishes subsequent tasks' performance, indicating willpower's counterproductive overuse.
Peters emphasizes psychological mindedness—accepting personal responsibility—as key for meaningful change, versus blaming others. Embracing control improves situations.
He advocates committing to action over relying on fleeting motivation. Executing without motivation reinforces the behavior and increases motivation over time. Eyal and Bartlett support commitment devices like pacts and healthier rewards for sustainable change, rather than willpower depletion.
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Peters dives into the study of brain systems to elucidate how they forge our behavior, highlighting the differentiation and impact of rationality versus emotionality in our responses and actions.
Peters expresses that the "human system" is geared towards logical thinking, which, despite its benefits, tends to slow down our reflexes. This analytical approach causes delays because it processes information thoroughly before arriving at a decision. Contrasting with this, Peters details the "chimp system," noting it as primitive and emotional. While this system allows for quicker reactions, it is characterized by its impulsivity, which can lead to hasty decisions without the balance of logical scrutiny.
While Peters doesn't provide specific details about the computer system in the outline provided, it can be inferred that this system would operate significantly faster than either the human logical or chimp emotional systems. This comparison implies that technological advancements in artificial intelligenc ...
Brain Systems and Their Impact on Behavior
Experts Nir Eyal, Peters, and Steven Bartlett bring light to the psychological mechanisms behind habit formation, focusing on self-image and the perceived levels of pain or reward that influence behavior.
Nir Eyal discusses the concept of reframing the internal triggers that lead to distraction. By altering one's perception of these triggers, individuals can redirect their behavior towards productivity instead of succumbing to distractions.
If someone views themselves as inherently untidy, their motivation to maintain cleanliness is likely low. Such individuals may not experience discomfort from an untidy space as it conforms with their self-perception. Peters suggests that being comfortable with an untidy room stems from aligning one’s environment with this negative self-image.
Peters proposes that adopting the self-image of a tidy person can make one uncomfortable with messiness, driving them to tidy up. This behavior change is reflected in his personal experience, where seeing himself as an energized and proactive person led him to maintain an orderly environment.
Change is often catalyzed when the pain associated with the status quo surpasses the pain of altering behavior. In relationships, for example, a person may not leave until the emotional pain becomes overwhelming. Once that threshold is crossed, a previously tolerated situation becomes unbearable, prompting a call to action.
Similarly, with the example of untidiness, individuals may reach a point where the discomfort from an untidy environment becomes potent, perhaps after being pointed out by someone else. This new level of discomfort can then serve as a catalyst for change.
The pain of a potential loss also serves as a compelling motivator. People may alter their behavior, like maintaining cleanliness, to prevent the loss of a r ...
Self-Image and Perceived Pain/Reward in Habit Formation
Steve Peters and other experts discuss the essential roles of psychological mindedness and commitment in the process of achieving sustainable behavior change.
Peters articulates that understanding and accepting personal responsibility for one's actions and beliefs—a concept known as "psychological mindedness"—is crucial for individuals who seek to change. This involves accepting reality, moving forward responsibly, and changing one's approach to their situation even when the situation itself cannot be changed.
Non-psychological mindedness, characterized by blaming others or external circumstances, is deemed unhelpful and disempowering. Peters acknowledges that while some excuses may have a kernel of truth—such as adverse childhood experiences—they are ultimately excuses that keep individuals trapped and prevent them from reclaiming their power to effect change.
Peters encourages people to reclaim their power by reframing sensory triggers not as negative experiences but as likely to happen for their benefit, thereby managing responses constructively. This process of embracing one's control and moving forward is what distinguishes genuine psychological mindedness.
Peters suggests relying on commitment rather than motivation when pursuing behavior change. This involves planning what needs to be done and executing it, regardless of one's emotional state.
Rather than waiting for motivation to strike, Peters advises committing to action—whether it be weeding the garden or any other task—with the expectation that motivation often follows once the task has begun.
Nir Eyal mentions that high performers use internal triggers like stress and anxiety to move towards action, implying a deeper commitment that outlasts fleeting motivation. He also describes a technique from acceptance and commitment therapy, the 10-minute rule, which helps to establish control and delay gratification.
Peters maintains that while motivation is ephemeral and fluctuates, commitment can induce sustained change. He explains that em ...
Psychological Mindedness and Commitment's Role in Behavior Change
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