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The Campus Protesters Explain Themselves

By The New York Times

In this episode of The Daily, two students share their personal backgrounds, campus protest experiences, and evolving perspectives on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Mustafa Yowell, a Palestinian-American student, reflects on how his family ties and visits to the occupied West Bank shaped his identity and involvement in pro-Palestinian activism on campus.

Meanwhile, Jasmine Jolly, who grew up in a Jewish household, recounts her initial support for Israel and how learning about the occupation's harsh realities made her rethink her stance. The students' candid insights shed light on how the next generation reconciles their identities and values with one of the world's most contentious geopolitical issues.

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Personal Backgrounds and Identities

Mustafa's Palestinian Roots

Mustafa Yowell, 20, was raised in a working-class family in Irving, Texas. His mother's side is from Nablus, Palestine, and Mustafa has vivid memories of visiting his grandmother there. From a young age, he witnessed the Israeli military presence and occupation in Nablus, shaping his Palestinian identity.

Jasmine's Jewish Upbringing

Jasmine Jolly grew up proudly celebrating Jewish holidays and traditions. Despite not always feeling "Jewish enough" due to her appearance, Jolly states her Jewish identity is an important part of who she is.

Campus Protests and Engagement

Mustafa's Protest Involvement

In response to incidents of anti-Arab harassment and sentiment, Mustafa, according to Yowell, became more involved in the Palestinian solidarity community on campus. He participated in large protests, surprised by the diverse support.

Jasmine's Local Protests

After learning about the conflict's history and the violence in Gaza, Jasmine attended weekly Eureka courthouse protests. She held signs honoring her Jewish ancestors while standing with Palestine, facing family skepticism.

Evolving Perspectives

Mustafa's Views

Yowell sees Zionism as justifying Israel's occupation and settlements, directly impacting his Palestinian family. He opposes this ideology.

Jasmine's Shifting Stance

Initially, Jolly didn't fully grasp the issue's context. But learning about the occupation, settler violence, and her family's past expulsions led her to reject supporting Israel. She believes resistance against occupation is justified.

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  • Nablus is a city in the northern West Bank, part of the Palestinian territories. It holds historical and cultural significance and has been a focal point of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The city has a predominantly Palestinian population and has experienced the impact of Israeli military presence and occupation. Mustafa's connection to Nablus through his grandmother has influenced his Palestinian identity and perspective on the conflict.
  • The Israeli military presence and occupation in Nablus specifically relate to Israel's control over the city in the West Bank. This control includes military checkpoints, patrols, and other security measures that impact the daily lives of Palestinians living in Nablus. The occupation has been a significant aspect of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with Nablus being one of the cities where tensions and confrontations between Israeli forces and Palestinian residents have occurred. The presence of the Israeli military in Nablus has influenced the experiences and perspectives of individuals like Mustafa who have witnessed and been affected by this ongoing situation.
  • The Palestinian solidarity community typically consists of individuals and groups who advocate for the rights and well-being of Palestinians, often in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They work towards raising awareness, providing support, and promoting actions that align with Palestinian interests and causes. These communities can include activists, organizations, and supporters who aim to address issues such as human rights violations, occupation, and social justice for Palestinians. Their efforts may involve organizing protests, campaigns, educational events, and other initiatives to bring attention to the Palestinian cause and push for change.
  • Zionism is a political ideology supporting the establishment and maintenance of a Jewish state in the historic land of Israel. Some interpretations of Zionism have been used to justify Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories and the building of settlements in those areas. This has been a contentious issue in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with critics arguing that these actions violate international law and hinder the prospects for a peaceful resolution.
  • Settler violence typically involves acts of aggression or harm committed by settlers towards indigenous or local populations in disputed territories. This violence can include physical assaults, property damage, intimidation, and other forms of aggression aimed at asserting control or dominance over the land and its inhabitants. Settler violence often occurs in contexts where there are competing claims to land or resources, leading to tensions and conflicts between different groups. It is a complex issue that intersects with historical, political, and social dynamics, often exacerbating existing conflicts and perpetuating cycles of violence and oppression.

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Personal backgrounds and experiences of the speakers (Mustafa and Jasmine)

In this exploration, we delve into the formative stories of two young people, Mustafa and Jasmine, whose rich cultural backgrounds have shaped their perspectives and identities.

Mustafa's upbringing and connection to Palestine

Mustafa Yowell discusses his connection to his heritage, recounting his experiences and upbringing influenced by his family's roots in Palestine.

Mustafa grew up in Irving, Texas, in a working-class family, and his mother's side of the family is from Nablus, Palestine

Mustafa, a 20-year-old student at the University of Texas at Austin, hails from Irving, Texas. His father is from Sherman, Texas, while his mother originated from Nablus, Palestine. He described his upbringing as modest, where despite not having many material possessions, his family maintained a comfortable home with his father working as a truck driver.

Mustafa has vivid childhood memories of visiting Nablus, including the close-knit community, the food, and the sights and sounds

Growing up, Mustafa traveled frequently between the U.S. and Palestine, forming a strong bond with the culture and community of Nablus. He fondly remembers waking up to the delightful aromas of his grandmother’s cooking and taking in the breathtaking valley views of the city flanked by two large mountains. He spent his days immersed in the vibrant life of Nablus, embraced by the warmth of family and the familiarity of the close-knit society, which he found in stark contrast to the United States.

Mustafa witnessed the Israeli military presence and occupation in Nablus from a young age, though it was just a fact of life rather than something discussed

Mustafa’s upbringing also exposed him to the political tension and military operations in Nablus. Despite being too young to fully grasp the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he observed IDF raids and the distressing effects on his community. However, at family gatherings, such realities were taken as given, not unlike accepting the sky’s color. Yet this very environment fostered an awareness in Mustafa about his identity as Palestinian, shaping his understanding of his heritage and geopolitics.

Jasmine's Jewish identity and family background

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Clarifications

  • The IDF (Israel Defense Forces) conducts military operations in various areas, including Nablus, as part of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. These operations can involve raids, checkpoints, and other security measures aimed at maintaining control and addressing security threats. The presence of the Israeli military in Nablus has been a significant aspect of the ongoing conflict in the region, impacting the daily lives of residents and shaping their experiences and perspectives.
  • Mustafa's connection to Nablus, Palestine is significant as it shapes his cultural identity. Nablus is a city in the West Bank, known for its rich history and Palestinian heritage. Mustafa's experiences in Nablus, including witnessing the Israeli military presence, have influenced his understanding of his Palestinian roots and the geopolitical situation in the region.
  • Jasmine faced challenges fitting within cultural expectations due to her appearance because her looks did not align with what some people expected of someone who is Jewish. This discrepancy led to others questioning her Jewish identity, causing her to sometimes feel like she didn't meet certain preconceived notions of what it means to be Jewish.
  • Modern Orthodox Judaism is a movement within Orthodox Judaism that seeks to integrate Jewish traditions and laws with the modern world. It emphasizes engaging with contemporary society while upholding Jewish law as central. Modern Orthodoxy values the interaction between traditional Jewish practices and secular knowledge, aiming to be active members of both the Jewish community ...

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The speakers' involvement in campus protests related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

The campus protests related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have led to diverse participation and reveal personal journeys of engagement with the issue among students.

Mustafa's participation in campus protests

After witnessing an intensification of anti-Arab sentiment and harassment, Mustafa felt compelled to join the Palestinian solidarity community more actively.

Mustafa became more involved in the Palestinian solidarity community on campus after incidents of increased anti-Arab sentiment and harassment

In response to incidents, such as a Muslim guy being stabbed in West campus and former Israeli Defence Forces soldiers harassing people outside a Palestinian-Saudi committee meeting, Mustafa engaged more deeply with the Palestinian cause on campus.

Mustafa participated in large protests in downtown Austin and on campus, which surprised him with the diversity of the student support

Mustafa joined protests through downtown Austin to the Capitol, observing a diverse group of participants, including many who were not directly connected to the issue. He was uplifted by the surprising variety of people in attendance.

The campus protests have continued with daily events, including sit-ins and teach-ins, though with relatively little tension

The Palestinian Solidarity Committee organized continuous activities, including teaching sessions and a march to the university tower. Mustafa Yowell noted that activities like sit-ins and teach-ins happened on the South Tower lawn daily, fostering a peaceful atmosphere, though sometimes there were counter-protests.

Jasmine's involvement in local protests

After learning about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and observing the violence in Gaza, Jasmine felt the need to engage in the dialogues surrounding the conflict.

Jasmine became more engaged in the issue after learning about the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and witnessing the violence in Gaza

Jasmine's understanding of the conflict's history and the violence in Gaza prompted her to take a stand and become involved in weekly protests at the Eureka courthouse.

Jasmine has participated in weekly protests at the Eureka courthouse, using thoughtful and intentional chants and slogans

At the protests, Jasmine displayed a sign proclaiming, "In honor of my Jewish ancestors, I stand with Palestine," signifying her thoughtful stance and solidarity with the Palestinian pe ...

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The speakers' involvement in campus protests related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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  • Mustafa felt compelled to join the Palestinian solidarity community due to witnessing an intensification of anti-Arab sentiment and harassment on campus, including incidents like a Muslim individual being stabbed and former Israeli Defence Forces soldiers harassing people outside a Palestinian-Saudi committee meeting.
  • Mustafa's decision to become more involved in the Palestinian solidarity community on campus was triggered by incidents such as a Muslim individual being stabbed in West campus and former Israeli Defence Forces soldiers harassing people outside a Palestinian-Saudi committee meeting. These events heightened anti-Arab sentiment and harassment, prompting Mustafa to engage more deeply with the Palestinian cause.
  • The campus protests related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict involved incidents like a Muslim individual being stabbed on West campus and former Israeli Defence Forces soldiers harassing people outside a Palestinian-Saudi committee meeting. Mustafa became more involved in the Palestinian solidarity community on campus in response to these events. The protests included activities like sit-ins and teach-ins organized by the Palestinian Solidarity Committee, creating a peaceful atmosphere despite occasional counter-protests. Jasmine engaged in weekly protests at the Eureka courthouse, using thoughtful chants and slogans to express her solidarity with Palestine.
  • Jasmine felt the need to engage in dialogues surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict after learning about its history and witnessing the violence in Gaza. This understanding prompted her to take a stand and participate in weekly protests at the Eureka courthouse, where she expressed solidarity with the Palestinian people through thoughtful chants and slogans. Despite facing skepticism from her family, Jasmine engaged in productive dialogues to comprehend their perspectives and further her involvement in the issue.
  • The weekly protests at the Eureka courthouse are significant because they provide a platform for individuals like Jasmine to express solidarity with the Palestinian people and raise awareness about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in a public setting. These protests serve as a visible form of activism, allowing participants to engage in dialogue, display their viewpoints through signs and slogans, and advocate for their stance on the issue. The courthouse location may symbolize a place of justice and governance, adding a layer of symbolism to the protests. The act of protesting weekly demonstrates a sustained commitment to the cause and a desire to maintain visibility and momentum in advocating for change.
  • Jasmine engaged in productive dialogues with her family members to understand their perspectives on her position regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. These conversations involved respectful exchanges where Jasmine listened to her family's concerns and viewpoints, aiming to ...

Counterarguments

  • Mustafa's increased involvement in the Palestinian solidarity community is based on his personal experiences and perceptions of anti-Arab sentiment. However, it's important to consider that not all individuals who share Mustafa's background may feel the same way or choose to respond by joining protests.
  • While Mustafa observed a diverse group of participants at the protests, it's possible that this diversity may not fully represent the entire student body's views on the conflict, and there may be a significant number of students with differing opinions who are not as visible or vocal.
  • The peaceful nature of the campus protests, including sit-ins and teach-ins, is highlighted, but it's also possible that these events may not always capture the full spectrum of opinions on the conflict and could unintentionally exclude voices that are critical of the protests' aims or methods.
  • Jasmine's engagement in the conflict is framed by her personal learning and witnessing of violence in Gaza. An alternative viewpoint might stress the importance of also understanding and acknowledging the experiences and narratives of those on the Israeli side of the conflict.
  • Jasmine's use of thoughtful chants and slogans at protests is commendable, but it's worth noting that the effectiveness of such methods in creating meaningful dialogue or change can be questioned, as protests can sometimes polarize rather than unite opposing viewpoints.
  • While Jasmine has had productive dialogues with her family, it's conceivable that others in similar situations may find such conversat ...

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The speakers' evolving perspectives on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Mustafa Yowell and Jasmine Jolly articulate their individual experiences and evolving perspectives on the complex Israeli-Palestinian conflict, delving into the intricacies of ethnic identity, historical contexts, and personal connections to the issue.

Mustafa's views on Zionism and the Israeli occupation

Mustafa sees Zionism as the belief that the entire land should be the state of Israel, which justifies the illegal occupation and settlements

Mustafa Yowell defined Zionism as the belief that the entire land should be owned by the state of Israel. He asserts that such an ideology justifies the illegal occupation and settlements, squarely placing himself in opposition to this stance. He finds himself directly invested in the conflict due to its impact on his Palestinian family members and their rights, underscoring the personal implications of this international issue.

Jasmine's shift away from supporting Israel

Jasmine initially did not fully understand the deeper history and context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Jasmine Jolly began with an incomplete grasp of the complex history and context surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Initially, she felt uncomfortable with Nazi symbolism used at protests, fearing it could incite more violence towards the demonstrators. She also hesitated at chants such as "intifada revolution," but upon deeper research, her discomfort eased as she equated the slogan to calls for justice and peace found in other movements.

Learning about the occupation, settler violence, and the parallels to her own Jewish family's history led Jasmine to reject supporting Israel

Over time, Jolly's stance shifted as she learned more about settler violence, the ongoing Israeli occupation, and the evictions in the West Bank. She drew parallels between the expulsion of Palestinians and her own Jewish family’s history of expulsion in Eastern Europe. These revelations made her uncomfortable with the idea of a Birthright trip to Israel and led her to recognize connections between the historic struggles of Jewish people and the retaliation from Israel that she could not support.

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  • Ethnic identity plays a significant role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, as both Israelis and Palestinians have deep-rooted connections to the land based on their historical narratives, cultural heritage, and sense of belonging. The conflict is not just about political or territorial disputes but is deeply intertwined with the identities, histories, and aspirations of both groups. Understanding the ethnic dimensions of the conflict involves recognizing the complex interplay of religion, culture, language, and historical experiences that shape the perspectives and actions of individuals on both sides. The conflict is not solely about land or resources but is also about the preservation and assertion of distinct ethnic identities and the struggle for recognition, autonomy, and security within the region.
  • Mustafa Yowell's personal connections to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict stem from the impact it has on his Palestinian family members and their rights, driving his opposition to the ideology of Zionism and the Israeli occupation. His familial ties and the injustices faced by his relatives shape his perspective and involvement in the conflict.
  • Jasmine Jolly's discomfort with Nazi symbolism at protests stems from the historical context of the Holocaust, where the Nazis committed atrocities against Jews. Seeing such symbols used in any context can evoke strong negative emotions due to the deep trauma associated with that period. This discomfort reflects a sensitivity to the historical significance and the potential impact of such symbols on individuals with Jewish heritage.
  • The term "intifada" translates to "uprising" or "shaking off" in Arabic. It specifically refers to two major Palestinian uprisings against Israeli occupation: the first intifada from 1987 to 1993 and the second intifada from 2000 to 2005. The phrase "intifada revolution" in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict signifies a call for resistance, protest, and a struggle for Palestinian rights and independence. It symbolizes a collective movement against perceived oppression and injustice.
  • Settler violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict typically involves attacks by Israeli settlers on Palestinian individuals, homes, and properties in the occupied territories. These incidents often stem from disputes over land ownership and religious beliefs, leading to tensions and clashes between the two communities. Settler violence is a significant issue that exacerbates the already complex dynamics of the conflict, contributing to ongoing hostilities and challenges to peace efforts. The violence can range from physical assaults to property damage and is a source of deep concern for both Palestinians and international observers.
  • Jasmine rejected supporting Israel due to learning about settler violence, the Israeli occupation, and the evictions in the West Bank. ...

Counterarguments

  • Zionism is a diverse movement with many interpretations, and not all Zionists believe in occupying the entire land; some advocate for a two-state solution respecting Palestinian sovereignty.
  • The term "illegal occupation" is contested, with some arguing that the legal status of the territories is complex and not conclusively illegal under international law.
  • The use of Nazi symbolism in protests can be deeply offensive to many, particularly those with a personal or familial connection to the Holocaust, and may not be an effective way to communicate the nuances of the conflict.
  • The term "intifada revolution" can be polarizing and is associated with both nonviolent resistance and violent uprisings, which can lead to different interpretations of the intent behind the chants.
  • Some argue that the Birthright trip to Israel is an opportunity for Jewish individuals to connect with their heritage and does not necessarily imply support for all policies of the Israeli government.
  • There are Jewish individuals and groups who support Israel and see it as a ...

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