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Trump Found Guilty: Ben Shapiro Breaks Down the Verdict

By Ben Shapiro

In this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, Ben Shapiro and other commentators break down the guilty verdict against Donald Trump on 34 felony counts related to falsification of business records. The polarizing conviction, overseen by the controversial Judge Juan Merchen, carries potential jail time for Trump.

The panelists analyze the implications of the verdict, discussing whether it could galvanize Trump's base but also set a dangerous precedent of targeting political opponents through the justice system. They explore how the circumstances could erode public trust in democratic norms, with the potential to delegitimize future election results in the eyes of portions of the electorate.

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The Donald Trump Conviction

The Criminal Case

Donald Trump was found guilty on 34 felony counts related to falsification of business records and alleged violations of election law, as per the prosecution led by Judge Juan Merchen.

The controversial charges, trial proceedings, and conviction
  • Trump faced 34 felony counts over alleged falsification of business records, charges that legal experts like Harmeet Dhillon and Ben Shapiro criticized as unprecedented.
  • The trial was presided over by Judge Merchen, whom Trump accused of bias and corruption. Shapiro condemned Merchen's rulings favoring the prosecution.
  • Trump described the trial as "rigged" by the Biden administration to undermine a political opponent.
Potential sentencing and appeals
  • An appeal could overturn the conviction but faces hurdles through state courts before reaching federal courts, likely after the 2024 election.
  • Judge Merchen aims for swift sentencing by July 11th, with up to 4 years in jail possible according to Shapiro.
  • Trump's ability to show remorse for sentencing is complex, as he maintains innocence to avoid harming himself politically.

Political Implications

The commentators suggest the conviction could have significant political repercussions, both for Trump and American democracy.

Potential to rally Trump's base
  • Shapiro and others speculate the prosecution could consolidate Trump's base by portraying him as a victim of a politically-motivated case.
  • Dhillon suggests even some never-Trumpers could reconsider their stance out of outrage over perceived unfairness.
Dangerous precedent of targeting opponents
  • The commentators warn this sets a concerning precedent of using criminal charges to undermine political opponents.
  • Shapiro calls it a "shameful day" and a "setup" against Trump, contemplating impacts if he loses while incarcerated.
Eroding trust in democratic norms
  • The circumstances could erode public faith in the justice system's impartiality and democratic norms, the speakers argue.
  • If a Democrat wins after this, Shapiro cautions it could be seen as illegitimate by portions of the electorate.
  • Dhillon and Knowles liken the situation to a "banana republic," departing from historical judicial norms.

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Clarifications

  • Harmeet Dhillon is a conservative lawyer and political commentator known for her work with the Republican Party. Ben Shapiro is a conservative political commentator, author, and lawyer, known for his outspoken views on various political and social issues. Judge Juan Merchen is a fictional character created for the purpose of the text you provided, and his background and role are not based on any real-world individual.
  • In the case of appealing a conviction, the process typically involves first appealing to state courts before potentially escalating to federal courts. This progression through the legal system can take time, possibly extending beyond the 2024 election. The appeal aims to challenge the verdict or the legal procedures followed during the trial. Trump's legal team would need to present strong arguments to support overturning the conviction.
  • The conviction of Donald Trump could polarize American politics further, potentially solidifying his supporters' loyalty while deepening divisions with his opponents. It raises concerns about the use of legal mechanisms to target political rivals, which could undermine trust in the justice system and democratic processes. This situation may set a precedent that influences future political strategies and public perceptions of fairness and justice in the political arena.

Counterarguments

  • The legal system operates independently of political influence, and a conviction suggests sufficient evidence was presented to meet the burden of proof required in a criminal case.
  • Precedent for prosecuting former officials exists in other democracies without necessarily undermining the political system, suggesting that no one is above the law.
  • The impartiality of the judiciary is a cornerstone of the legal system, and accusations of bias should be substantiated with clear evidence rather than assertions of political motivation.
  • The ability to appeal a conviction through the court system is a fundamental right that ensures checks and balances within the judicial process.
  • Sentencing guidelines are typically established by law and are not determined by political considerations but by the nature of the offense and the circumstances surrounding it.
  • Political repercussions are not a direct consequence of the legal process but rather how political actors and the public respond to it.
  • The erosion of trust in democratic norms could also be attributed to the actions of political figures who undermine legal institutions for political gain.
  • The legitimacy of an election outcome should be based on the integrity of the electoral process, not on the legal outcomes of individual political figures.
  • Comparing the U.S. judicial system to a "banana republic" may overlook the robust legal frameworks and rights protections that differentiate established democracies from those with weaker rule of law.

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The criminal case against Donald Trump in New York

Donald Trump has been found guilty on 34 separate felony counts in a controversial trial that has sparked debates over legal methodology and perceived bias.

The charges, trial proceedings, and conviction

The prosecution levied 34 felony counts against Trump over alleged falsification of business records

The prosecution's case against Trump involved allegations that he violated election law in 2016 and falsified business records in 2017, which now constitute a class E felony extending the statute of limitations. Shapiro discusses the uncertainty of the methodology by which Trump was found guilty, pointing to the misdemeanor falsification of business records and other unspecified crimes. Dhillon notes that this is the first time in New York state that falsification of records has been charged as a felony and that federal prosecutors, state prosecutors, and the FEC had previously rejected these actions as crimes.

The trial was presided over by a judge accused of bias and misconduct, leading to a controversial conviction

Shapiro and Knowles criticize Judge Juan Marichan for giving every advantage to the prosecution and for jury instructions they deem unprecedented. Trump described the trial as "rigged" and claimed it was overseen by a corrupt judge. Shapiro highlighted the unusual theory used for the prosecution where jurors could agree on different underlying crimes that led to a single felony conviction without the need for unanimity on a predicate act.

The appeals process could overturn the conviction, but faces an uphill battle in the state courts

An appeal could potentially overturn the conviction, yet faces hurdles within the state courts. Shapiro explains the unusual charges and suggests that they were aggregated from multiple unspecified underlying crimes, potentially complicating the appeals process. The normal appeal would first go to the Intermediate Court of Appeals in New York, then to the Supreme Court of New York, and could reach a federal appeal only after state remedies have been exhausted, which is unlikely before the election.

The judge has expressed intent to swiftly sentence Trump, potentially to jail time, before the 2024 election

Judge Merrick Chen has set July 11th for sentencing. Trump may not be detained ...

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  • A Class E felony is a category of felony crimes with a specific level of severity, typically carrying lighter penalties compared to higher classes. Extending the statute of limitations means increasing the time period during which legal action can be taken against someone for a particular offense beyond the usual limit set by law. In this case, the alleged falsification of business records by Donald Trump was elevated to a Class E felony, which extended the time frame within which charges could be brought against him for this offense.
  • The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent agency in the U.S. that enforces campaign finance laws and oversees federal elections. It ensures transparency in campaign finance, enforces contribution limits, and manages public funding for presidential elections. The FEC is composed of six Commissioners nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
  • The Intermediate Court of Appeals in New York is an appellate court that sits between the trial court and the highest court in the state, which is the Supreme Court of New York. It is responsible for reviewing decisions made by lower courts to determine if legal errors were made during the trial. Appeals typically go through this intermediate court before potentially reaching the highest court for a final decision. The Intermediate Court of Appeals plays a crucial role in the judicial system by providing a level of review that helps ensure fair and just outcomes in legal cases.
  • The Supreme Court of New York is not the highest court in the state's judicial system; it is a trial-level court that handles civil and criminal cases. The highest court in New York is the Court of Appeals, which is the final arbiter on matters of state law. The Supreme Court of New York is where most legal actions begin, and it is part of the lower court system in the state. The ...

Counterarguments

  • The legitimacy of the trial process and the impartiality of the judiciary should be presumed unless there is clear evidence to the contrary.
  • The application of the law evolves, and charging falsification of business records as a felony might reflect a legitimate legal interpretation rather than bias or innovation.
  • The unusual theory used in prosecution could be a valid legal strategy supported by precedent or law, rather than an unfair advantage.
  • The appeals process is a fundamental part of the legal system designed to correct errors, and it is not inherently biased against any individual or case.
  • The speed of sentencing could be consistent with the judge's schedule and workload rather than an indication of bias or ulterior motive.
  • The judge's intent to sentence swiftly does not necessarily imply a desire to influence the 2024 election.
  • Trump's reluctance to show remorse could be a principled stand based on his belief in his innocence rather than a political calculation.
  • The Secret Service's preparation for t ...

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The political implications of the conviction

The discussion centered on the political repercussions of the conviction of a major party figure, with several commentators suggesting this could lead to both unintended support for the individual and wider implications for democracy.

Potential to galvanize Trump's base and sway independent voters who see the prosecution as politically motivated

Shapiro and other speakers speculate that the conviction could rally Trump's supporters and sway independent voters who see the case as being politically motivated. Shapiro hints at the conviction potentially consolidating Trump's base and affecting independent voters’ perspectives. Dhillon suggests the conviction could strengthen the resolve of MAGA voters, with even some never-Trumpers reconsidering their stance. Shapiro believes that independents might view Trump as a victim, which could work in Trump’s favor.

The hosts anticipate a strong backlash, with Shapiro predicting an enormous consolidation around Trump, especially among previously lukewarm supporters. Meanwhile, Knowles suggests that the conviction could make Trump a martyr, potentially rallying conservatives and independents around him due to outrage over the perceived unfairness.

The conviction mirrors past accusations from Trump about being unfairly targeted by the justice system

Shapiro suggests the conviction aligns with past accusations made by Trump, painting it as a pattern where Trump is unfairly targeted. Trump himself claims he was targeted by Judge Merchen from the beginning, suggesting political motivations. With Trump asserting the trial was "rigged" and done by the Biden administration to hurt a political opponent, speakers imply that this event may strengthen his prior claims of being unfairly treated.

The case sets a dangerous precedent of using criminal charges to undermine political opponents

Shapiro discusses potential political benefits for Trump from the conviction, calling it a "shameful day for American history" and a "setup" to undermine him. He also contemplates the impact of a possible election loss while incarcerated, calling such a prospect "explosive." Knowles and Dhillon imply that the judiciary's pursuit of Trump could set a dangerous precedent of targeting political opponents through criminal charges.

Broader concerns about the use of the justice system to target political opponents

Commentators express unease over the implications of the legal system being used to target a political rival.

The conviction marks an unprecedented step in using criminal prosecutions against major party nominees

Shapiro and Knowles emphasize the unprecedented nature of the conviction in the prosecution of a political figure, suggesting it establishes a new and dangerous app ...

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  • MAGA stands for "Make America Great Again," a slogan popularized by former U.S. President Donald Trump during his campaigns. MAGA voters typically support Trump's policies and vision for the country. They are often associated with conservative values and prioritize issues like immigration, trade, and national security.
  • The term "Never-Trumpers" refers to individuals, particularly within the Republican Party, who strongly oppose or have consistently resisted the policies and actions of former President Donald Trump. They are known for their vocal criticism of Trump and his administration, often advocating for alternative candidates or policies within the party. The Never-Trump movement emerged in response to Trump's rise in politics and has continued to influence political discourse within conservative circles. These individuals are characterized by their refusal to support Trump, even in the face of party loyalty or pressure.
  • Judge Juan Manuel Merchan is a Colombian-born American judge who presided over the 2024 criminal trial of former US president Donald Trump. He is notable for being the first judge in history to oversee the criminal indictment and conviction of a US President.
  • The Biden administration refers to the current presidential administration led by President Joe Biden, who took office on January 20, 2021. As of my last update in September 2021, Joe Biden is the 46th President of the United States, succeeding Donald Trump. The administration includes the President, Vice President, and various executive branch officials responsible for governing the country and implementing policies. The Biden administration's actions and decisions can have significant impacts on various aspects of governance, including law enforcement, foreign policy, and domestic affairs.
  • A "front runner like Trump" typically refers to a candidate who is leading in popularity or perceived as having a strong chance of winning an election. In this context, it suggests that Trump was a prominent and favored figure in the political landscape, possibly in the context of an election or a significant political event. Being a front runne ...

Counterarguments

  • The conviction may not necessarily galvanize Trump's base if it is perceived as legitimate by the public, and independent voters might not view the prosecution as politically motivated if the evidence and legal process are seen as fair and transparent.
  • Accusations of being unfairly targeted by the justice system need to be substantiated with evidence, and the conviction could be seen as a result of due legal process rather than a targeted attack.
  • The use of criminal charges in politics can be a dangerous precedent, but if applied lawfully and without bias, it can also be seen as a necessary means to uphold the rule of law, regardless of an individual's political status.
  • While the conviction of a major party nominee is unprecedented, it could also be interp ...

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