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The Call of the Void: Don’t Pick Up!

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In this Stuff You Should Know episode, the hosts delve into the intriguing phenomenon known as the "call of the void"—the inexplicable urge to jump from high places. The summary examines philosophical perspectives on this human experience, including existentialist views that link it to the anxiety sparked by our freedom of choice.

It also explores psychological research shedding light on the underlying mechanisms that may trigger these intrusive thoughts. The hosts discuss theories about the potential involvement of primitive "lizard brain" impulses and the role of the prefrontal cortex's ability to suppress dangerous urges. Overall, the episode provides an illuminating look into this perplexing yet common human experience.

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Philosophical perspectives on the call of the void

Existentialist views of Kierkegaard and Sartre

According to Josh Clark, the existentialists viewed the call of the void as a manifestation of the underlying anxiety stemming from our freedom of choice in life. Kierkegaard called it the "dizziness of freedom," while Sartre expanded on this with the "vertigo of possibility" - the dread from realizing our future selves carry the same boundless freedom to act.

Philosopher Garry Coxe argued that the call of the void exposes the "bad faith" or self-delusions by which we fool ourselves about our true freedom to make choices, as Josh Clark explains.

Psychological research

The call of the void, or urge to jump from high places, is experienced by over 30% of people, according to Chuck Bryant. Studies show a strong link between anxiety and these intrusive thoughts.

While common, Jennifer Hames and colleagues found that a genuine urge to jump is much rarer than merely thinking about it. Contrary to Freud's theory of an innate self-destructive drive, research indicates these urges are often fleeting and reflective of appreciating being alive.

Theories on underlying mechanisms

The "lizard brain"

Josh Clark discusses a theory that the call of the void stems from a conflict between primitive fear instincts interpreted erroneously by the "lizard brain" as urging us to jump to safety, while our rational mind overrules this impulse.

Role of prefrontal cortex

Neuroscientist Emil Gabriel Bruno speculates that damage to the prefrontal cortex, essential for impulse control, could potentially impair one's ability to suppress the dangerous urges associated with the call of the void, leading people to act on them inappropriately.

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  • The "call of the void" is a psychological phenomenon where individuals experience intrusive thoughts or urges to engage in risky or dangerous behaviors, such as jumping from a high place, even though they have no intention of acting on these impulses. It is often associated with feelings of anxiety and existential dread, reflecting a conflict between our rational minds and primal instincts. This concept has been explored by philosophers and psychologists to understand the underlying mechanisms and implications of these intrusive thoughts on human behavior and decision-making.
  • Existentialist perspectives of Kierkegaard and Sartre focus on the concept of the "call of the void" as a manifestation of anxiety stemming from the freedom of choice in life. Kierkegaard termed it the "dizziness of freedom," while Sartre elaborated on this with the "vertigo of possibility," emphasizing the dread of realizing the boundless freedom to act in shaping our future selves. These philosophers highlight how the existential experience of confronting limitless choices can lead to profound existential angst and a sense of responsibility for one's actions.
  • In existentialist philosophy, "bad faith" is a concept introduced by Jean-Paul Sartre. It involves self-deception or living inauthentically by denying one's freedom and responsibility. Bad faith can manifest as pretending to be bound by external factors when one actually has the freedom to choose. It's a state of avoiding the anxiety of true freedom by adopting false beliefs or roles.
  • The link between anxiety and the urge to jump is rooted in the psychological phenomenon where intrusive thoughts of jumping from high places are often associated with feelings of anxiety. Studies suggest that these thoughts may be a manifestation of underlying anxiety, with the urge to jump serving as a reflection of the distress or unease experienced by individuals. This connection highlights how anxiety can influence intrusive thoughts and potentially contribute to the experience of the call of the void.
  • Freud's theory of an innate self-destructive drive suggests that humans possess an inherent urge towards self-destruction or death, known as the death drive or Thanatos. According to Freud, this drive operates alongside the life-preserving instinct (Eros) and can manifest in behaviors like aggression, risk-taking, or self-sabotage. Freud believed that the death drive could influence various aspects of human behavior and mental processes, contributing to complex psychological dynamics. This concept is a key component of Freudian psychoanalytic theory, exploring the darker, unconscious motivations that can drive human actions and thoughts.
  • The "lizard brain" theory suggests that the call of the void may originate from primal fear instincts misinterpreted by an ancient part of the brain, the amygdala, which is associated with survival responses. This theory proposes that this primitive part of the brain might mistakenly signal a need to jump to safety, even in situations where it is not rational or necessary. The term "lizard brain" is often used colloquially to describe the more instinctual and reactive aspects of human behavior, drawing a parallel to the basic survival instincts seen in reptiles. This theory implies that the call of the void could be a result of a miscommunication between our ancient survival mechanisms and our modern cognitive processes.
  • The prefrontal cortex is a part of the brain responsible for decision-making, planning, and controlling impulses. Damage to this area can lead to difficulties in regulating emotions and behaviors, potentially resulting in impulsive actions. It plays a crucial role in inhibiting inappropriate responses and considering long-term consequences of actions. Dysfunction in the prefrontal cortex can impact an individual's ability to control impulses effectively.

Counterarguments

  • The existentialist interpretation might overemphasize the role of freedom and underplay other psychological or biological factors that contribute to the call of the void.
  • The concept of "dizziness of freedom" could be seen as too abstract or metaphorical to accurately capture the concrete experiences and neurobiological processes involved in the call of the void.
  • Garry Coxe's view on self-delusions and "bad faith" might not account for the complexity of human psychology and the various reasons why people experience conflicting thoughts or emotions.
  • The statistic that over 30% of people experience the urge to jump from high places could be questioned in terms of research methodology, sample size, and cultural bias in reporting such experiences.
  • The assertion that genuine urges to jump are rarer than mere thoughts could be challenged by further research that might find a higher prevalence of such urges or a different interpretation of the data.
  • The theory attributing the call of the void to a conflict between primitive instincts and rational thought could be oversimplified, as it may not consider the full spectrum of cognitive processes and environmental factors involved.
  • The speculation about damage to the prefrontal cortex leading to acting on dangerous urges could be criticized for lacking empirical evidence or for not considering other areas of the brain that might also play a role in impulse control.

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Philosophical perspectives on the call of the void

Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant delve into the existential interpretations of the philosophical phenomenon known as the call of the void. They examine views from prominent existentialists Søren Kierkegaard and Jean-Paul Sartre, and reflect on philosopher Garry Coxe's contributions to the understanding of this intriguing experience.

The existentialist interpretations of Kierkegaard and Sartre

Josh Clark expresses his agreement with existentialists about the nature of the self and our choices. He explains that there is no solid self, but a series of ongoing decisions, highlighting the fluidity of our identities.

Kierkegaard viewed the call of the void as illustrating the fundamental human condition of anxiety, stemming from the freedom and uncertainty of choice in life.

Kierkegaard believed that anxiety arises not from external threats but from internal, existential ones. He suggested that what we commonly refer to as the call of the void is the "dizziness of freedom," a reaction to the realization of the vast array of choices before us without clear direction on which paths to take.

Sartre expanded on this, describing the "vertigo of possibility" - the dread and dizziness that arises from the realization that our future selves have the same boundless freedom to act.

Both Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant discuss the "vertigo of possibility," a phrase that encapsulates the anxiety related to the multitude of choices one has throughout life. Sartre's expansion on Kierkegaard's idea brings forth the notion that our future selves continuously carry the weight of this freedom, leading to dread about the unpredictability and responsibi ...

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  • The existential interpretations of the call of the void explore the philosophical perspectives on the feeling of inexplicably wanting to jump from a high place, despite not actually intending to do so. This phenomenon is often seen as a manifestation of existential anxiety and the overwhelming freedom and responsibility of human choice. Philosophers like Kierkegaard and Sartre delve into the deeper meanings behind this experience, linking it to the fundamental aspects of human existence and the complexities of decision-making in a world filled with uncertainty.
  • The "dizziness of freedom" is a concept introduced by philosopher Søren Kierkegaard to describe the anxiety that arises from the vast array of choices available to individuals without clear guidance on which path to take. It reflects the overwhelming feeling of uncertainty and responsibility that accompanies the realization of one's boundless freedom to choose. This existential dizziness emerges when confronted with the weight of making decisions that shape our lives, highlighting the discomfort and disorientation that can result from the inherent freedom of human existence. Kierkegaard uses this term to illustrate the profound sense of unease that stems from the awareness of the infinite possibilities and the burden of choosing among them.
  • "Bad faith" in existentialist philosophy, particularly in the context of Jean-Paul Sartre's work, ref ...

Counterarguments

  • The concept of a "solid self" might be argued from a psychological or cognitive perspective, suggesting that there is a core identity or personality that remains relatively stable over time.
  • Some philosophers or theologians might argue that anxiety is not solely an internal, existential condition but can also be a response to external, moral, or spiritual conflicts.
  • The interpretation of the call of the void as "dizziness of freedom" could be challenged by those who view it as a neurological or psychological phenomenon rather than an existential one.
  • Critics of existentialism might argue that the "vertigo of possibility" is an overly negative view of freedom and that many individuals find joy and purpose in the possibilities their freedom allows.
  • The idea that experiencing the call of the void exposes "bad faith" could be countered by suggesting that individuals are often well aware of their freedoms and make conscious choices based on a variety ...

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Psychological research on the call of the void

Recent psychological research sheds light on the perplexing phenomenon known as the "call of the void," revealing its prevalence and the nature of the experience.

Prevalence and relation to other mental states

Studies have found that the call of the void, an urge to jump from high places, is experienced by over 30% of people, according to Chuck Bryant.

Studies on various populations reveal the prevalence of the urge

Among those who had never experienced suicidal ideation, 17% reported having the urge to jump at least one time. This rate increased among individuals with a history of suicidal feelings, with half reporting the urge to jump. In the general population, 74% of people with suicidal ideation and 43% of non-suicidal individuals have thought about jumping.

Anxiety and the call of the void

Research shows a strong correlation between the call of the void and experiences of anxiety, suggesting anxious individuals are more prone to these intrusive thoughts. Tobias Teissmann and his colleagues at Ruhr-University Bochum surveyed people with and without suicidal ideation, as well as patients with a fear of flying. They found that 80% of people with suicidal ideation had experienced the call of the void, with 45% of non-suicidal individuals also reporting the experience.

The nature of the call of the void experience

Researchers are working to differentiate between mere thoughts of jumping and a genuine urge to do so.

A common but often fleeting experience

Jennifer Hames and her colleagues at Florida State University termed this urge the "high places phenomenon" after a study of FSU students revealed that over 30% had experienced the urge to jump, distinguishing it from actual suicidal ideation. They affirm that merely thinking about jumping is much more common than the rarer genuine urge or impulse to do so.

Past theories, such as Freud's interpretation of this urge as an innate drive to harm oneself, have been largely disp ...

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  • The "call of the void" is a psychological phenomenon where individuals experience an inexplicable urge to engage in risky behaviors, like jumping from high places, despite not intending to act on these impulses. Studies have shown that this phenomenon is relatively common, with over 30% of people reporting experiencing this urge at least once in their lives. It is distinct from suicidal ideation and is often described as a fleeting and non-threatening impulse, rather than a genuine desire for self-harm or suicide. Researchers are exploring the nature of these intrusive thoughts and their relationship to mental states like anxiety.
  • The call of the void, or the urge to jump from high places, is distinct from suicidal ideation. While some individuals who experience the call of the void may have suicidal thoughts, not everyone who experiences this urge intends to harm themselves. Research suggests that the call of the void can occur independently of suicidal tendencies and is often a fleeting experience that does not necessarily indicate a desire for self-harm.
  • The correlation between anxiety and the call of the void suggests that individuals experiencing anxiety are more prone to intrusive thoughts like the urge to jump from high places. Research indicates that anxious individuals, including those with a fear of flying, are more likely to report experiencing the call of the void compared to those without anxiety. This correlation highlights a potential link between heightened anxiety levels and the occurrence of these intrusive thoughts.
  • Differentiating between mere thoughts of jumping and a genuine urge to do so involves understanding that fleeting thoughts of jumping from high places are common and do not necessarily indicate a true desire to act on them. A genuine urge involves a stronger, more compelling feeling that goes beyond mere passing thoughts. Researchers aim to distinguish between these two experiences to better understand the nature of the call of the void phenomenon.
  • Freud's interpretation of the call of the void suggested that the urge to harm oneself, like the impulse to jump from a high place ...

Counterarguments

  • The prevalence rates reported may vary depending on the methodology and sample size of the studies, and other studies might find different rates.
  • The correlation between anxiety and the call of the void does not necessarily imply causation; other factors may contribute to the experience.
  • The differentiation between mere thoughts and genuine urges could be subjective and vary greatly between individuals, making it difficult to establish clear criteria.
  • The term "high places phenomenon" may not capture the full spectrum of experiences related to the call of the void, which could occur in various contexts, not just high places.
  • Disproving past theories like Freud's does not necessarily provide a complete understanding of the phenomenon; alternative psychological or neurobiological explanations may exist that have not been fully exp ...

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Theories on the underlying mechanisms

The phenomenon known as the "call of the void" may originate from conflicts between our primitive instincts and our rational mind, and the condition of our brain's prefrontal cortex could influence how these impulses are managed.

The "lizard brain" explanation

The term "call of the void" refers to the unsettling desire some people experience to jump from high places despite not being suicidal. Josh Clark points to a theory that suggests this sensation comes from a kind of miscommunication between one's instinctual fear response and the rational mind. This response is attributed to what's colloquially known as the "lizard brain," a part of our mind driven by primitive instincts.

The call of the void may stem from the subconscious mind's instinctual drive for safety, which interprets heights as dangerous and the ground as safe, despite our rational mind's understanding.

Clark explains that when someone is in a high place, an innate fear response is triggered, sending a signal of danger. The "lizard brain" interprets this fear and erroneously assesses that the ground is safe, giving a false impulse to jump. Fortunately, our rational mind usually catches up and corrects this impulse, recognizing that jumping would be harmful, not safe. This moment when our rational mind overrules the primitive instinct is what Clark believes to be the call of the void.

The role of prefrontal cortex damage

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  • The "call of the void" is a psychological phenomenon where individuals experience an inexplicable urge to engage in risky behavior, like jumping from a high place, despite not wanting to do so. This sensation is believed to stem from a conflict between primitive instincts and rational thinking, often involving a miscommunication in the brain's response to fear. It is thought to be a result of the brain's attempt to reconcile the perception of danger with the impulse for safety, leading to a momentary desire to act against self-preservation instincts.
  • The "lizard brain" is a colloquial term referring to the primitive part of our brain responsible for instinctual responses. In the context of the "call of the void," it suggests a conflict between this instinctual fear response and our rational mind when faced with heights. This conflict can lead to a miscommunication where the instinctual fear response misinterprets the situation, potentially causing the unsettling impulse to jump despite the rational understanding that it is dangerous.
  • The prefrontal cortex plays a crucial role in managing impulses by regulating decision-making, controlling emotions, and considering consequences. Damage to this brain region can disrupt these functions, leading to difficulties in controlling impulsive behaviors and adhering to social norms. This impairment can result in individuals acting on dangerous urges, like the "call of the void," without the usual restraint provided by a healthy prefrontal cortex.
  • The miscommunication between the instinctual fear response and the rational mind in the context of the "call of the void" phenomenon occurs when the primitive part of the brain, driven by instinctual fears, sends signals that conflict with the rational understanding of the situation. This conflict can lead to contradictory impulses, such as feeling a sudden urge to jump from a high place despite knowing it is dangerous. The rational mind typically intervenes to correct this misinterpretation, preventing impulsive actions that could be harmful. This dynamic showcases the interplay between primal instincts and higher cognitive functions in decision-making processes.
  • The subcons ...

Counterarguments

  • The "lizard brain" is a colloquial and somewhat outdated term; modern neuroscience recognizes that human brain function cannot be so easily divided into primitive and rational components.
  • The instinctual drive for safety might not necessarily interpret heights as dangerous and the ground as safe; this is a simplification and other psychological factors could be at play.
  • The sensation of the "call of the void" could also be explained by cognitive dissonance or a psychological reaction to the confrontation with one's own mortality, not just a miscommunication between fear and rationality.
  • The role of the prefrontal cortex in impulse control is complex, and not all individuals with damage to this area exhibit impaired control over dangerous urges.
  • The idea that damage to the prefrontal cortex could lead to acting on the call of the void is speculative and not conclusively supported by empirical evidence.
  • The concept of the "call of the void" itself is not universally accepted or understood within the scientific community, and alternat ...

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