In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, Erik Prince and Erik Bethel examine Taiwan's position in global politics and economics, with a focus on its relationship with China. They discuss Taiwan's historical sovereignty, its separation from mainland China following the Chinese Civil War, and its current role as a crucial producer of the world's semiconductors through TSMC.
The guests analyze potential consequences of Chinese control over Taiwan, including disruptions to the global semiconductor supply chain and shifts in regional power dynamics. They also explore China's current activities in the South China Sea, its influence on regional democracies, and its use of economic leverage. The discussion covers recommendations for Taiwan's defense strategy and steps the U.S. and its allies can take to prepare for possible conflict.
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In a discussion between Shawn Ryan and Erik Prince, they explore Taiwan's complex history and sovereignty. Prince emphasizes that Taiwan has never been ruled by the Chinese Communist Party, having instead been colonized by various powers including the Dutch, Spanish, and Japanese. Following the Chinese Civil War, the nationalist government under Chiang Kai-shek established the Republic of China in Taiwan, creating two distinct Chinese entities that persist today.
Erik Bethel highlights Taiwan's crucial role in global semiconductor production, with TSMC manufacturing 60% of the world's semiconductors and 90% of advanced chips. The hosts warn that losing access to Taiwan's semiconductor industry would be catastrophic for the global economy. Prince discusses Taiwan's strategic location, just 70-80 miles from mainland China, and its strong ties with Japan, which he identifies as China's primary regional concern.
According to Bethel and Prince, Chinese control of Taiwan could trigger a global economic crisis comparable to the 1970s Arab oil embargo, particularly through disruption of the semiconductor industry. Bethel suggests this could undermine U.S. dollar supremacy, while Prince warns it would give China a strategic foothold in Asia-Pacific, potentially extending their influence to regions like Africa.
Prince details China's aggressive actions in the South China Sea, including the construction of military bases on artificial islands and harassment of Filipino fishermen. He describes China's extensive spy network within American companies and its use of financial leverage through infrastructure loans to erode other nations' sovereignty. Bethel notes China's growing influence in regional democracies, including South Korea and Australia.
Prince and Bethel advocate for transforming Taiwan's defense strategy into an asymmetric, decentralized approach, suggesting the empowerment of civilians with defensive capabilities. Prince criticizes the U.S. defense industrial base as ineffective and bureaucratic, calling for democratized military procurement. Bethel emphasizes the importance of reindustrialization and supply chain diversification away from China as crucial steps in preparing for potential conflict.
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Understanding the historical context and current political landscape is crucial for grasping the complex relationship between Taiwan and China. The narrative surrounding Taiwan's sovereignty and status is often dominated by the perspectives of global powers and influenced by economic and political pressures.
Shawn Ryan and guest Erik Prince discuss the intricate history of Taiwan, which has seen various rulers and cannot be claimed to have been under the control of the People's Republic of China, governed by the Chinese Communist Party.
The Portuguese were the first Europeans to discover Taiwan, referring to it as "Ilha Formosa." The Dutch established settlements in the 1620s, and around the same period, the Spaniards also settled on the island. Originally, Austronesian tribes inhabited Taiwan with no significant ethnic Han Chinese presence until the Dutch began bringing in people from China's Fujian province. Historically, Taiwan was not a focal point for the Ming or the Qing dynasties and was considered a peripheral territory.
In approximately 1895, Japan seized control of Taiwan, and it remained under Japanese rule until the end of World War II. Following the Chinese revolution, Chiang Kai-shek and the nationalist government fled to Taiwan and set up the Republic of China government there, resulting in the coexistence of two Chinese entities: the communist People's Republic of China (PRC) on the mainland and the Republic of China (ROC) in Taiwan.
Enlightening further on Taiwan's historical separateness from China, Ryan and Prince confirm that the island has never been administered by the Chinese Communist Party. This key point emphasizes the absence of historical governance ties between Taiwan and the current government in Beijing. Prince also underlines the fact, stating that Formosa (Taiwan) was never a part of mainland China.
Despite Taiwan's self-governance and distinct history, international diplomatic recognition is a thorny issue heavily influenced by relations with China.
Most nations, including the United State ...
Taiwan-China Relationship History and Status
Taiwan holds a crucial position in both the global economy and geopolitical balance, particularly due to its semiconductor production and strategic location.
Bethel, Prince, and Ryan dive into the economic impact of Taiwan's semiconductor industry, revealing the global reliance on its output and the potential catastrophic effects of any disruption.
Erik Bethel points out that Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) produces 60% of the world's semiconductors, including 90% of the advanced chips vital for modern technology. Ryan underscores the delicate nature of the situation, noting the terrifying prospect of China controlling Taiwan's semiconductor industry.
The hosts express concern about the critical role that Taiwan's semiconductor capabilities play for the U.S. and global economy. They argue that losing access to these semiconductors could result in rising costs and inaccessibility of everyday items, from washing machines to other appliances that contain these chips. Bethel expands on the potential economic ramifications, suggesting that China's control over Taiwan would have massive implications not only because of semiconductors but for the entire US economy.
The discussion with Bethel, Prince, and Ryan also touches upon Taiwan's strategic significance due to its location in the Asia-Pacific region.
No specific information related to Taiwan's control of key trade shipping lanes is provided in the content. However, Erik Prince briefly discusses a hypothetical scenario involving a full-on blockade of the Straits of Malacca in response to a Chinese siege of Taiwan. Such a blockade would be critical given that these straits are pivotal shipping lanes for global trade.
Erik Prince brings up Taiwan’s proximity to mainland China, just "70, 80 miles from the mainland,” highlighting its position as a potential flashpoint for conflict. Prince discusses the historical and present-day connections between Taiwan and Japan, noting that the President of Taiwan speaks Japanese during visits to Japan, evidencing strong ties. Additionally, rural Taiwan still has a sizable population of Japanese speakers, contributing to the country's strategic importance.
Shawn Ryan raises questions regarding which other nations, besid ...
The Strategic and Economic Importance of Taiwan
Discussing the hypothetical scenario of China taking control of Taiwan, Prince, Ryan, and Bethel highlight the potential for significant economic and geopolitical upheaval.
Shawn Ryan and Erik Bethel suggest serious economic repercussions if China were to dominate Taiwan, particularly through the semiconductor industry. Bethel fears that semiconductor manufacturing by TSMC could either move to China or be destroyed, with engineers possibly relocating to the U.S. This could impact chip-dependent industries such as Nvidia and AI technologies. The absence of concrete details in the conversation doesn’t detract from the general fear expressed about the possible takeover of the industry.
Erik Prince and Bethel articulate that if China were to control Taiwan, there could be significant disruptions to industries that rely on semiconductors, potentially triggering a crisis comparable in scale to the Arab oil embargo of the 1970s. A Chinese takeover of Taiwan could also result in the semiconductor industry's relocation or destruction, altering critical global supply chains.
Bethel implies that such control over semiconductors could erode the U.S. dollar's status as the world's reserve currency by shifting commodity trades, like Malaysian palm oil, to transactions in the Chinese renminbi (RMB). The comparison to the oil embargo underscores the potential for a seismic shift in global economic power and a direct challenge to U.S. economic supremacy.
Prince predicts that if China controlled Taiwan, it would consolidate China's influence over Southeast Asia, leading to greater regional power. This would also impact individual rights and governance, leaning toward bigger government control ...
Potential Consequences of China Controlling Taiwan
China's assertive actions in the South China Sea and beyond continue to escalate tensions, raising concerns over the sovereignty of neighboring nations and regional security.
Erik Prince discusses China's construction of islands in the South China Sea, actions that have not only infringed upon the territorial waters of other countries but also caused environmental destruction. These man-made islands are being equipped with facilities such as runways for large aircraft and naval bases, effectively transforming them into military outposts.
Prince notes that these military bases were initially promised to be weather stations or search and rescue locations. However, China's aggressive behavior, including its coast guard exerting force against Filipino fishermen within the Philippines' own territorial waters, demonstrates a blatant disregard for international law and poses a direct threat to the freedom of navigation and regional stability. Additionally, Erick Prince comments on China's introduction of an oil rig into Korean waters, designed to masquerade as a fishing station, as increased alarm about further militarization in the area.
Prince details China's expansionist tactics beyond physical borders. He speaks of China's massive spy network within American companies and notes how this espionage is capable of wreaking havoc in the US. Furthermore, China's strategy includes offering expensive capital loans for infrastructure projects, using state-owned companies and convict labor, ultimately alienating local populations in countries such as those in Africa, which diminishes China's popularity and casts a shadow on its global influence.
Prince also touches upon China's ambitions to undermine the US dollar's status as the reserve currency, aiming to increase its financial influence and erode the sovereignty of other nations. Combined with these financial tactics, Shawn Ryan alerts us that China has made inroads into US infrastructure, significant involvement in the power grid and communication systems.
Prince expands the discussion of China's influence to democracies in the Asia-Pacific region, emphasizin ...
China's Expansionist Behavior and Threats to Regional Stability
As tensions between China and Taiwan continue to escalate, experts such as Erik Prince, Erik Bethel, and Matt Pottinger discuss the crucial need for the US and its allies to prepare for a potential conflict.
The key to Taiwan's resilience in the face of a potential Chinese aggression involves reinforcing its domestic defense capabilities.
Prince and Bethel suggest transforming Taiwan into a "porcupine" by adopting asymmetric and decentralized defense strategies, implying a focus on widespread domestic defense rather than conventional military assets. The aim is to increase the cost of an invasion for China and give it pause before attempting any incursion.
Prince argues for equipping a small percentage of the Taiwanese population, including motivated individuals such as policemen, firemen, and reservists, with small arms, emergency comms, explosives, fiber optic drones which can't be jammed, and RPGs to make urban areas difficult for PLA forces. Erik Bethel speaks about arming Taiwanese civilians to create an insurgency that would deter China’s actions, aligning with Prince's emphasis on asymmetric defense tactics.
Modernizing military strategies is essential for dealing with the progressive defense tactics of adversaries like China.
Prince describes the US defense industrial base as ineffective and hampered by poor procurement processes, advocating for democratizing military procurement and empowering commanders to innovate. This could involve changing procurement culture and laws to minimize the dependence on traditional defense suppliers and thereby increase innovation and efficiency.
The conversation suggests democratizing military procurement to enable innovation, such as using smaller, family-owned enterprises for shipbuilding. Prince insists on empowering innovative defense companies by providing them with resources and the freedom to innovate. Procurement decisions, too, could be pushed down to the brigade or combatant commander level, echoing Bethel's ideas for localized procurement processes.
Us, Allies Must Prepare For Potential Taiwan Conflict
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