In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, Pete Hegseth critiques what he sees as concerning trends affecting the U.S. military. He argues that woke ideologies like DEI and CRT undermine the military's core mission, while diversity mandates and gender integration policies damage combat effectiveness and standards.
Hegseth cites issues with the VA healthcare system, unwarranted legal prosecutions of veterans, and unrealistic rules of engagement putting troops in peril. He suggests these problems, combined with the spread of identity politics within the armed forces, contribute to low morale and a major recruitment crisis. As many service members feel compelled to prioritize political correctness over warfighting, Hegseth questions whether the modern military culture still embodies the warrior ethos.
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According to Pete Hegseth, the VA bureaucracy is resistant to change that could disrupt the status quo. Despite reform proposals and legislation like the Mission Act aimed at giving veterans healthcare choices, the VA has opposed initiatives perceived as threats to its ecosystem.
Both Hegseth and Shawn Ryan voluntarily avoid VA services due to poor service and long wait times. Despite a large budget, veterans struggle to get timely, quality care at the VA. Efforts to increase accountability and allow firing of poor-performing staff have been hindered by union opposition and enforcement issues.
Hegseth claims diversity initiatives like DEI and CRT have shifted focus from military objectives to social programs after events like the George Floyd riots. Some leaders have called the military systemically racist, introducing ideologies Hegseth deems untrue.
Hegseth argues the pursuit of diversity is not attracting traditional military recruits and that unity should be prioritized. Pushes for female commanders and combat roles are seen as social agendas lowering standards unnecessarily.
Service members feel they must "walk on eggshells" regarding identity issues, tarnishing the military's image and discouraging traditional, patriotic individuals from serving.
Hegseth discusses support for cases like Eddie Gallagher's and the Raven 23 group, arguing these warfighters faced unjust prosecution for lawful combat actions.
Unrealistic rules of engagement prioritized political correctness over mission success, making self-defense difficult.
Hegseth cites the military's complicity in undermining veterans' legal protections as evidence of bias against the warrior ethos and refusal to "have their back."
According to Hegseth, "woke" DEI policies and lowered standards have led to a recruitment shortfall. Patriotic Americans increasingly hesitate to enlist due to concerns the military has strayed from its core warfighting purpose.
Findings of poorer integrated unit performance were dismissed, signaling that combat effectiveness is secondary to priorities like gender integration. This has bred distrust in leadership among service members concerned with declining readiness and training.
Fear of missteps related to identity politics has led to an environment where political correctness is prioritized over combat effectiveness, sapping the military's fighting spirit.
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The VA healthcare system remains tangled in bureaucracy and inefficiency despite legislative attempts at reform, with veterans suffering the consequences.
Hegseth describes the VA bureaucracy as a feeding trough with secure jobs that are tough to fire from, suggesting resistance to change that might unsettle the status quo. He cites the veterans industrial complex in Washington D.C., which is mainly interested in advocating for a more significant VA budget, as opposed to truly serving veterans' needs. Despite the 2014 "Fixing Veterans Healthcare Task Force" report's suggestions for reform and legislative efforts like the Mission Act, aimed at offering veterans healthcare choices, the VA has opposed such initiatives, viewing them as threats to its ecosystem. Hegseth castigates veterans' organizations for not actively pushing for substantial VA reforms, emphasizing that these institutions safeguard their stakes over veterans' welfare.
Both Shawn Ryan and Hegseth voluntarily avoid VA services, which points to an underlying issue with veterans' trust in the system. Ryan, after a single appointment, prefers buying his own health insurance. Hegseth admits the quality of VA healthcare can be good but criticizes the grueling process of getting appointments and the lack of stable doctor relationships. Despite the VA's large budget—twice the size of the Marine Corps and the second-largest federal department—Hegseth argues that veterans still struggle to get timely care and are seen as numbers, not individuals needing quality healthcare.
Efforts to increase accountability, such as the Accountability Act and the Choice Act, intended to make firing ineffective employees easier, have been stonewalled. Union opposition and lack of enforcement have hindered meaningful implementation of these acts.
Despite these legislative ...
Issues with the VA healthcare system and efforts to reform it
Pete Hegseth and Shawn Ryan discuss the influence of diversity initiatives within the military and share their concerns about the potential impact on the military's core mission and ethos.
Hegseth discusses his own experience being labeled as an extremist, which he sees as a consequence of political correctness, and describes incidents like the George Floyd riots and the January 6th event leading to the implementation of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and Critical Race Theory (CRT) initiatives within the military. These incidents, he claims, have shifted the military's focus to addressing extremist ideologies within its ranks.
Furthermore, he shares concerns about unit dynamics changing due to DEI advisors' influence on what can be said within units. He fears this suggests a shift in focus from traditional military objectives to social initiatives.
Hegseth also raises the issue of military leaders who have claimed the institution is systemically racist and that bases named after Confederates need renaming. He expresses skepticism about these leaders' intentions, suggesting they are introducing ideologies they know aren't true.
Ryan and Hegseth point out that the pursuit of 'wokeness' and diversity initiatives are not attracting the kinds of individuals who traditionally would be interested in military service, thus alienating the military's core constituency.
Hegseth criticizes phrases like "our diversity is our strength," arguing that unity should be the priority in the military. He also suggests that military leaders involved in DEI should be fired for detracting from warfighting capabilities, and condemns "political generals" for undertaking social justice, gender, or climate initiatives to advance their careers.
Moreover, Hegseth points out a "wholesale takeover" of the Defense Department's culture by both high-ranking officials and junior service members who adhere to ideas of diversity and equity.
He highlights the direct involvement of the chairman of the joint chiefs in pushing for female company commanders as an indicatio ...
The push for wokeness and diversity in the military and its impact
Pete Hegseth discusses the prosecution and poor treatment of US veterans, revealing a disturbing pattern of the military and government second-guessing and punishing service members for actions taken during combat.
Hegseth was involved behind the scenes with President Trump’s pardons, showing support for warfighters like Eddie Gallagher, who was tried for murdering an ISIS fighter only to find out that purported video evidence against him was nonexistent.
The Raven 23 group, which includes Nick Slatten, was another egregious example. Despite drone footage supposedly proving their innocence, they were heavily sentenced, with Slatten facing life in prison. This footage, however, was deleted. Clint Lorentz’s case is referenced alongside Gallagher’s as another instance of unjust prosecution.
Hegseth challenges the practicality of the rules of engagement by recounting a briefing where troops were instructed not to shoot an enemy carrying an RPG unless it was aimed at them. He viewed this as impractical and informed his platoon they had support if they acted in self-defense before being attacked.
The lack of support from the military for these individuals points to a cultural and institutional bias against what Hegseth describes as the warrior ethos.
Hegseth cites the Pentagon's complicity in a culture that prioritizes career advancement and problem covering over the welfare of service members as evidence of this bias.
The mistreatment and prosecution of US war veterans
Considering the substantial challenges facing military recruitment and retention, Hegseth and others posit that recent policy changes are negatively impacting both the willingness of Americans to join the armed forces and the morale of those already serving.
Hegseth cites a significant shortfall in Army recruiting goals and expresses personal reluctance about recommending military service largely due to recent shifts away from what he sees as the core mission of the military. He conveys that such sentiments are shared by others, who now hesitate or decline to encourage enlistment among their children. Furthermore, he discusses his removal from National Guard duties ostensibly due to his tattoos, underscoring concerns about a focus on image over substance.
Hegseth also speaks out against DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) policies within the military infrastructure, predicting that an escalation of these policies under the current administration could lead to more retirements. He suggests that lowered standards due to diversity quotas have eroded trust in military leadership and decreased combat capabilities, thus detracting from recruitment and retention efforts. Concerns that the Department of Defense is at a tipping point, and needs to reorient away from such policies to resolve recruitment shortfalls, are echoed throughout the conversation.
Questions raised about recent military engagements — such as whether they truly defend the country — are thought to deter potential recruits. Hegseth emphasizes that a perpetuation of the recruitment crisis will occur unless there is a return to traditional values that prioritize warfighting and skills over progressive social initiatives. He implies that the adoption of 'woke' policies and the steering away from the main mission have led to the alienation of traditional recruiting grounds and families that have historically supported military service.
Findings from a Marine Corps study reflecting poorer performance of integrated male and female units versus all-male units are cited, yet they were reportedly dismissed. This is seen as an example of how combat effectiveness might be compromised for other priorities. Hegseth mentions how agendas and quotas have relegated standards to a secondary concern, with discussions on the elevation of women in units seen as implicit directives rather than assessments of capability. Even with lower recruiting targets, Hegseth notes conversations with serving personnel about readiness declines, including limited resources and training, which breeds distrust towards the leaders of the military.
Hegseth discusses the fear among service members of committing missteps related to identification, gender, racial, or trans issues, indicating a heightened emphasis on political correctness. This fear is thought to have inverted unit priorities and weakened combat effectiveness, which is the primary role of the military.
The decline in military recruiting and morale, and the underlying causes
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