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#143 Pete Hegseth - Operator Syndrome, Military Industrial Complex and the War on Warriors

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In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, guest Pete Hegseth weighs in on issues facing U.S. veterans and the military. He criticizes the VA healthcare system, arguing its bureaucracy prioritizes itself over providing adequate care to veterans. Hegseth also shares his concerns about progressive agendas like diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives diluting the military's core combat mission.

Hegseth calls for reforms to restore traditional military values and culture, remove "woke" influences, and attract new recruits with campaigns emphasizing patriotism and duty over social justice themes. He and Ryan also discuss the role of education, with Hegseth advocating for alternative schooling models that align with principles conducive to military service.

#143 Pete Hegseth - Operator Syndrome, Military Industrial Complex and the War on Warriors

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#143 Pete Hegseth - Operator Syndrome, Military Industrial Complex and the War on Warriors

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Issues with the VA Healthcare System

According to Pete Hegseth and Shawn Ryan, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) prioritizes maintaining its large bureaucracy over providing quality healthcare to veterans.

Bureaucracy over veterans' care

The VA's massive budget funds high-paying bureaucratic jobs resistant to reform, Hegseth argues. Despite recent legislations aiming to hold VA staff accountable, Hegseth claims the strong civil service protections and unions prevent removing underperforming employees. Meanwhile, veterans face long wait times and impersonal treatment.

Advocacy groups like the VFW often defend the VA's practices to maintain their influence and funding, despite many members being dissatisfied with the subpar care, Hegseth states.

Veterans seeking care outside VA

Due to lengthy wait times, difficulty accessing services, and lack of personalized treatment, many veterans opt for private healthcare over the VA system, according to Ryan's personal experience. The VA also largely excludes innovative therapies like psychedelics for PTSD that some veterans pursue abroad.

Hegseth advocates for greater Veteran's Choice programs, allowing veterans to seek local, private care, closer to home.

"Woke" Ideology in the Military

Hegseth and Ryan criticize senior military leaders for allowing "woke" agendas like diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) to undermine the military's core mission of combat readiness and lethality.

DEI overemphasized despite impact on unit cohesion

They argue DEI initiatives gained prominence following events like the George Floyd protests, with DOD leaders embracing Critical Race Theory concepts. Policies like allowing women in combat roles are seen as emblematic of eroding traditional military values in favor of political agendas. This shift, Hegseth argues, alienates the services' traditional recruit base and harms unit cohesion and functionality.

DEI contributing to recruitment/retention issues

Hegseth and Ryan suggest the military's overt embrace of DEI messaging estranges the patriotic demographic that typically joins, leading to potential recruiting challenges. Concerns exist about standards being lowered to accommodate diversity goals, which could negatively impact combat effectiveness.

Restoring Military Values and Readiness

They advocate restoring traditional military culture and values, with a priority on combat readiness, lethality and mission accomplishment.

Removing ideological influences and weak leaders

Hegseth calls for replacing senior leadership focused on social engineering with dedicated warfighters committed to the military's combat mission. He recommends removing DEI advocates, returning to rigorous standards for all roles, and discarding any standards lowered to increase gender integration.

Rebuilding trust through recruitment aligned with core values

To rebuild public trust and bolster recruitment, Hegseth proposes campaigns emphasizing patriotism, duty and adventure aligning with traditional military ideals rather than social justice themes. Combined with leadership overhaul and adequate funding, he believes this strategy could rapidly address recruitment deficits.

Role of Education in Shaping Future Military

Hegseth and Ryan discuss the impact of the current K-12 education system and advocate for alternative models promoting military-aligned values.

Progressive indoctrination hampering military preparedness

According to Hegseth, American schools' emphasis on critical race theory and lack of traditional history fail to foster the ethos and virtues ideal for military service. He believes progressive "social engineering" in schools undermines interest and respect for the armed forces among youth.

Embracing alternative education models

Hegseth has chosen a Tennessee school with Christian conservative values for his children. Ryan discusses creating an education space via real estate investing, independent of government influence. Hegseth endorses expanding school choice, homeschooling and education savings accounts to empower parents to select curricula aligned with their principles, fostering civic character development.

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Counterarguments

  • The VA has made efforts to improve care and reduce bureaucracy, including the implementation of the MISSION Act, which aims to provide more healthcare options outside of the VA system.
  • Civil service protections and unions can be seen as necessary to protect employees from wrongful termination and to ensure a stable workforce.
  • Long wait times in the VA system may be due to a high demand for services and a lack of adequate funding or staffing, rather than purely bureaucratic inefficiency.
  • Advocacy groups may defend the VA's practices based on a belief that the system, while imperfect, provides specialized care for veterans that may not be available or affordable in the private sector.
  • The inclusion of DEI initiatives in the military can be viewed as a way to ensure that all service members are treated fairly and with respect, which can enhance unit cohesion and effectiveness.
  • Allowing women in combat roles and focusing on diversity can be seen as a reflection of societal changes and a commitment to providing equal opportunities for all qualified individuals.
  • Recruitment challenges in the military may be due to a variety of factors, including changing demographics and societal attitudes toward military service, not solely the emphasis on DEI.
  • Lowering standards to accommodate diversity goals is a complex issue, and there is debate about whether this actually occurs or if standards are adapted to ensure the best candidates are selected regardless of background.
  • Traditional military culture and values can coexist with modern societal values, and finding a balance between the two may be more beneficial than a complete return to past practices.
  • Emphasizing patriotism and duty in recruitment campaigns does not necessarily exclude the importance of social justice themes, which can also resonate with potential recruits.
  • The current K-12 education system's approach to history and social issues may provide a more comprehensive understanding of societal complexities, which can be valuable for future service members.
  • School choice and alternative education models can offer benefits, but public education aims to serve all students and promote a common set of civic values.
  • Critical race theory and similar educational frameworks are often misunderstood and do not necessarily undermine military values or respect for the armed forces.

Actionables

  • You can write a letter to your local representative expressing your concerns about the VA system and suggesting specific policy changes that prioritize veteran care over bureaucracy. Explain in your letter how personal stories of veterans in your community have been affected by the current system and propose that veterans should have easier access to private healthcare options when the VA is unable to meet their needs promptly.
  • Start a community support network for veterans where they can share their experiences with the VA and discuss alternative healthcare options. This network could meet regularly and provide a platform for veterans to connect with local private healthcare providers who are interested in serving the veteran community, potentially at discounted rates or through a community-funded subsidy program.
  • Educate yourself on the principles of traditional military values and combat readiness by reading books, attending lectures, or taking online courses. Then, use this knowledge to mentor young people in your community who are interested in joining the military, focusing on the importance of duty, patriotism, and preparedness, and how these values contribute to a strong and effective military force.

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Issues with the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)

According to Pete Hegseth and Shawn Ryan, the Department of Veterans Affairs is more focused on maintaining its bureaucracy than providing effective healthcare for veterans, with many veterans opting to seek healthcare outside the VA system.

The VA is a bureaucratic system that prioritizes its own operations over providing effective care for veterans.

The VA's large budget is used to maintain a massive bureaucracy with high-paying, stable jobs that are difficult to fire from, rather than focusing on delivering quality healthcare to veterans.

Hegseth describes the VA as a "permanent feeding trough" with high-paying, secure jobs that are hard to lose, even with misconduct or neglect of duty. He observes that the VA's upper echelon is paid more than the military's chairman of the joint chiefs. Despite many VA jobs going remote since COVID, there's a perceived lack of accountability within the system. Hegseth argues that the VA bureaucracy is resistant to reform; efforts like the Accountability Act and the Choice Act during the Trump administration aimed to enable the firing of ineffective VA employees haven't led to significant change due to strong civil service protections and opposition from bureaucracy and government unions. Under the Biden administration, according to Hegseth, reforms are not being utilized optimally and bad employees are not being fired as they should be by law.

Despite having a massive budget—twice the size of the Marine Corps and making it the second-largest federal department—veterans still face long wait times and feel treated like a number, Hegseth claims.

Veterans advocacy groups like the VFW and American Legion often defend the status quo at the VA in order to maintain their influence and funding, even when their members express dissatisfaction with the poor quality of care.

Hegseth states that traditional veterans advocacy groups, with large offices in Washington, D.C., focus on securing a bigger VA budget rather than providing quality care for veterans. He suggests that these groups defend the status quo because it benefits them in terms of funding and power. Despite officially representing their members, many at the post level express dissatisfaction with long drives and waits for appointments.

Veterans often choose to seek healthcare outside the VA system due to long wait times, difficulty accessing services, and a lack of personalized, veteran-specific treatment.

Many innovative treatments and therapies that could benefit veterans, such as psychedelics and alternative approaches to PTSD, are not being developed or utilized within the VA system.

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  • The VA has made efforts to improve care and reduce bureaucracy, including initiatives to streamline services and increase efficiency.
  • High-paying, stable jobs within the VA can attract skilled professionals who are committed to serving veterans and can contribute to continuity of care.
  • Civil service protections are designed to prevent political interference and ensure a nonpartisan workforce, which can be beneficial for the stability of services provided to veterans.
  • The VA has specialized knowledge and experience in treating conditions common among veterans, which may not be as readily available in the private sector.
  • Advocacy groups may support the VA because they believe in the mission of the department and its importance in serving veterans, not just to maintain influence and funding.
  • The VA has implemented programs like the Veterans Choice Program to allow veterans to seek care outside the VA system when necessary, showing a willingness to adapt to veterans' needs.
  • The VA conducts research ...

Actionables

- You can support veteran healthcare by volunteering with organizations that provide personalized care to veterans, such as local non-profits offering alternative therapies or peer support groups, to help address the unique needs of veterans outside the VA system.

  • By volunteering your time, you can contribute to the well-being of veterans who may not be receiving the individualized attention they need. For example, if you're good at listening, you could volunteer to be a part of a peer support hotline, providing a space for veterans to talk about their experiences and feel heard.
  • Consider donating to research initiatives focused on innovative treatments for veterans, especially those exploring options not currently supported by the VA, like studies on the effects of psychedelics on PTSD.
  • Your contribution can help fund the research necessary to develop new treatments that could benefit veterans. For instance, look for crowdfunding campaigns or academic institutions conducting trials on alternative therapies and consider making a donation.
  • Educate yourself on the ...

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The "woke" ideology in the U.S. military

Pete Hegseth and Shawn Ryan express their concerns over the emerging "woke" ideology within the U.S. military, asserting that there is a shift away from readiness and lethality towards diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), which they believe is undercutting traditional military values.

Senior military leaders have allowed ideological agendas like diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) to take precedence over the military's core mission of readiness and lethality.

Hegseth discusses the concept challenging the insertion of DEI agendas into the military's framework. He criticizes the senior military leadership for allowing a shift in focus from traditional military values of unity and lethality to diversity and equity. The podcast highlights moments such as the George Floyd riots and January 6th events where DOD political appointees and figures like Generals Milley and Austin seized the opportunity to go all-in on DEI, and Critical Race Theory (CRT).

The push for women in combat roles during the Obama administration is mentioned as altering military operations and unit cohesion. Furthermore, Hegseth takes issue with senior leaders only recently suggesting that the military is riddled with racism after high-profile events. He also disapproves of the subsequent actions taken, such as stand-downs for extremism and the introduction of DEI advocates to the ranks.

The erosion of traditional military values and the intrusion of political agendas into the armed forces have contributed to recruiting and retention challenges.

Hegseth and Ryan discuss a perceived disconnect between the military's recruitment messages aimed at a more diverse demographic and the alienation of its traditional support base. Such messaging and policies potentially contribute to recruiting and retention challenges.

Hegseth contemplates whether he and his peers would recommend military service to their children, given the institution's shifting culture and priorities. Ryan emphasizes that recruiting issues stem from a dissonance with the traditional demographic that joins the military, not a lack of a ...

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  • DEI initiatives can enhance military effectiveness by fostering a more inclusive environment where all service members can perform to the best of their abilities.
  • A diverse military force can be a strategic asset, as it may improve cultural competencies and language skills necessary for various operations globally.
  • The integration of women into combat roles can be seen as an expansion of talent and capabilities within the military, rather than a detriment to unit cohesion or operational effectiveness.
  • Addressing issues of racism and extremism within the ranks through stand-downs or other measures can be viewed as necessary for maintaining discipline and the moral high ground, both of which are traditional military values.
  • Recruitment challenges may also stem from broader societal changes and perceptions of military service, rather than solely from the promotion of DEI values.
  • The focus on DEI does not inherently mean that standards are being lowered; it can also mean that the standards are being made fair and accessible to all qualified individuals.
  • The military has a history of leading social change within American society, such as racial integration and the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," which suggests that adapting to social progress can be aligned with military values.
  • A focus on DEI may attract a broader range of recruits who bring different perspectives and skills, which could b ...

Actionables

  • You can explore the impact of DEI initiatives on your own workplace by conducting anonymous surveys to gauge how these policies affect team cohesion and performance. Create a simple questionnaire that asks colleagues to share their views on how diversity efforts have influenced their work environment and sense of unity. Analyze the results to understand the balance between inclusion and operational effectiveness in your organization.
  • Engage in community discussions or forums to express your perspective on the role of traditional values in modern institutions. Find local town hall meetings, online forums, or social media groups where these topics are being discussed and contribute your thoughts, ensuring to listen to others' experiences and viewpoints to foster a balanced dialogue.
  • Volunteer with organizations that support military members and veterans to g ...

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The need for a return to traditional military values and a focus on war-fighting capabilities

The discussion centers on restoring traditional military values and focusing on combat readiness to rebuild the military’s capabilities and public trust.

Restoring the military's focus on readiness, lethality, and mission accomplishment

Hegseth argues that the military must return to its roots in meritocracy, readiness, and mission accomplishment by removing leaders who have focused on social engineering rather than combat effectiveness. He prescribes a return to traditional military values by replacing these leaders with dedicated warfighters. Hegseth points out the problematic nature of ideological issues and decrees, such as the recent military vaccine mandate, which he believes have led to the departure of many service members with traditional values.

A change in leadership at the highest levels is deemed essential for this refocusing. Hegseth implies that the replacement of senior leaders — including the Secretary of Defense and those who prioritize ideological activism, diversity, and inclusiveness over combat effectiveness — with experienced warfighters who are committed to the military's core objectives is needed.

Removing social engineering elements from the military

Hegseth calls for the removal of influences that have favored diversity and inclusion over war-fighting abilities. He suggests firing the chairman of the joint chiefs, along with generals and admirals who are involved in diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. He argues for the reinstatement of rigorous combat standards previously in place, discarding any lowered standards or diversity quotas, and specifically addresses the integration of women in combat roles by suggesting a return to former standard levels to ensure unit readiness and effectiveness.

Rebuilding the military's credibility and public trust

Retaining individuals who embody traditional military values is seen as a way to maintain the military's credibility. Hegseth proposes shifting recruitment and retention strategies to focus on patriotism and duty rather than social justice ideologies.

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  • Traditional values may not fully address the complexities of modern warfare, which increasingly involves cyber, space, and hybrid tactics that require different skills and perspectives.
  • A sole focus on combat readiness might overlook the importance of other military roles, such as peacekeeping, disaster relief, and humanitarian missions, which also require specific values and training.
  • Removing leaders based on their support for diversity and inclusion initiatives could undermine the principle of meritocracy if those leaders are also effective in their military roles.
  • Diversity and inclusion can strengthen military units by bringing a wider range of experiences and viewpoints, which can be critical in complex, multicultural conflict scenarios.
  • The integration of women and other diverse groups in combat roles has been shown to be effective in many cases, and a return to previous standards might exclude capable service members and reduce overall force readiness.
  • Public trust in the military can also be built on transparency, accountability, and ethical conduct, not just on traditional values or combat effectiveness.
  • Recruitment strategies that focus solely on traditional values might not appeal to all potential rec ...

Actionables

  • You can foster a sense of duty by volunteering for organizations that support military members and their families, which can give you a personal understanding of the values of service and sacrifice. By engaging with these organizations, you'll witness firsthand the commitment and patriotism that underpin military communities, and this experience can shape your own values and actions in daily life.
  • Start a book club focused on historical military leaders and their philosophies to deepen your appreciation for traditional military values. Reading about and discussing the strategies, leadership qualities, and decision-making processes of renowned warfighters can provide insights into the importance of combat readiness an ...

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The role of education in shaping the next generation of military personnel

Pete Hegseth and Shawn Ryan discuss the effects of the current education system on young people’s preparation for military service and advocate for alternative education models that emphasize traditional values and patriotism.

The progressive takeover of the K-12 education system has undermined the development of traditional military virtues

Critical theories and removal of historical content impacting military preparedness

According to Hegseth, the state of education in America, as described in his book "Battle for the American Mind," implies that the current K-12 system, infiltrated by critical theory and race-based ideologies, does not encourage the ethos and values typically sought after in military service. The removal of traditional American and Western history from school curricula has created a generation he considers ill-prepared for the rigors of military life. Additionally, the emphasis on social engineering and identity politics in schools has contributed to a decline in both interest and respect for military service among the youth.

Providing alternative education options for cultivating military virtues

Educational models focused on classical learning and character development

Pete Hegseth has personally sought a school in Tennessee that aligns with conservative, classical Christian values for educating his children. This action embodies the desire for an education system that inculcates the patriotic and moral virtues traditionally associated with military service.

Shawn Ryan, on the other hand, speaks about establishing an alternative form of education through collective real estate investment aimed at creating an educational space. This private arrangement can function independently of government influence, supporting community efforts and potentially offering different values or curriculums than public schooling. Such models may emphasize practical skills, like finance, which are often overlooked in traditional educational systems.

Empowering parents through school choice

The growth of homeschooling represents another avenue for parents to impart education founded on character development and a strong understanding of history and traditions. Hegseth points out that while there are forces that oppose homeschooling and private education, the right to homeschool remains strong and secure.

Parents' attraction to alternative education stems from maintaining cultural integrity and installing shared beliefs. Educational tax credits or educational savings accounts are mechanisms suggested by Hegseth to empower p ...

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  • The idea that the progressive takeover of the K-12 education system undermines traditional military virtues assumes that progressive values are inherently at odds with military virtues, which may not be the case. Progressive education can also foster critical thinking, adaptability, and teamwork, which are valuable in the military.
  • Critical theories, such as critical race theory, aim to understand and address inequality and systemic racism, which could be argued as important for military personnel who must work in diverse teams and international contexts.
  • The removal of historical content could be seen not as an erasure but as an attempt to provide a more nuanced and inclusive view of history, which could prepare military personnel for global service in diverse environments.
  • The decline in interest and respect for military service among the youth could be attributed to a variety of factors, including changing societal values and awareness of the complexities of military engagements, rather than solely the influence of the education system.
  • Alternative education options that focus on classical learning and character development may not necessarily be superior to public education in preparing military personnel, as they may lack the diversity and breadth of perspectives found in a more inclusive curriculum.
  • Independent alternative education models may not be subject to the same accountability and standards as public schools, potentially leading to inconsistent educational quality.
  • Emphasizing practical skills like finance is important, but a well-rounded education that includes the arts, humanities, and sciences is also crucial for developing strategic thinkers and adaptable leaders in the military.
  • While homeschooling can be an effective means of education for some, it may not provide the same level of socialization and exposure to diverse viewpoints as traditional schooling, which are important for functioning in ...

Actionables

- You can explore classical literature and military history by creating a personal reading list that includes works like "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu and biographies of notable military leaders to understand the virtues and strategic thinking valued in military service.

  • By delving into these texts, you'll gain insights into the ethos and values that have historically been associated with military excellence. For example, reading about the leadership of figures such as Winston Churchill or George Washington can provide a deeper appreciation for the qualities that contribute to strong military leadership.
  • Start a family book club focused on American and Western history to foster a shared understanding of cultural heritage and military history within your household.
  • This can be a monthly gathering where each member reads a book or a few chapters from a book related to these themes and then discusses them together. For instance, you might read about the American Revolution one month and the next month focus on the World Wars, drawing connections to the values and sacrifices that underpin military service.
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