In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, former Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly shares her perspective on the mainstream media landscape and social issues like transgender ideology and immigration. Kelly offers a candid look into the sexual harassment she faced from her former boss Roger Ailes and her role in the subsequent #MeToo movement at Fox News.
She critiques mainstream outlets' partisan bias in covering topics like Trump, the pandemic, and LGBTQ issues. Kelly also touches on her ongoing faith journey as a Catholic while exploring spirituality and near-death experiences. The conversation invites listeners to grapple with complex social issues and media dynamics through Kelly's firsthand accounts and reflections.
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Born in Illinois, Megyn Kelly grew up moving around New York state with her family and tight-knit siblings. While initially interested in journalism, she pursued law instead—racking up $100,000 in debt before experiencing burnout and pivoting back into journalism at age 34 after over 9 years of practicing law. She quickly gained visibility at Fox News, mentored by Bill O'Reilly, and eventually gained prime-time anchor roles and moderated presidential debates.
Kelly describes Fox News as "patient zero" of the #MeToo movement, recounting frequent inappropriate behavior and unwanted advances from her boss Roger Ailes. She details an attempted kiss from Ailes that she narrowly avoided. Though reporting it provided little recourse, Kelly eventually decided to testify during an internal investigation into Ailes' misconduct after learning a friend experienced similar harassment. Though torn, Kelly felt compelled to speak out to protect other women, despite fearing damage to her career.
Kelly is critical of mainstream media's loss of objectivity and spontaneity. She accuses mainstream outlets of lying about Republicans, harboring deep partisan bias, and operating with agendas—particularly in their coverage of issues like Trump, the COVID pandemic, LGBTQ ideology, and immigration. She predicts these issues will worsen if Trump wins reelection. Kelly sees a decline in major outlets and credits the rise of alternative media as a response to mainstream bias.
Kelly is concerned about the normalization of transgender ideology involving children and the erosion of women's sports. She believes the left's capture of moderate voices will eventually be overcome. She argues for more honest dialogues on race, policing, and immigration—critiquing the push for open borders and amnesty. She encourages open discussion without mandated language.
Though a lifelong Catholic, Kelly admits struggling with certain Church rules and doctrines like confession requirements or annulment processes. She finds solace in spiritual practices like attending Mass—especially grieving her father's death. Kelly remains open to signs of a higher power and exploring her faith further, like looking into near-death experiences, though Catholicism still feels most resonant. She sees her beliefs as a flexible, ongoing journey.
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Megyn Kelly’s story weaves a timeline of a professional journey from the initial allure of journalism, a significant detour through law, back into the demanding world of news media, including her recent roles beyond traditional television.
Born in Illinois while her father pursued his Ph.D. at the University of Illinois, Megyn Kelly moved with her family to Syracuse, New York, before she turned one. Raised in a tight-knit family with one sister and one brother, Megyn enjoyed what she refers to as a heavenly childhood in an area blanketed with snow where summers were short and winters were long. Despite the challenging climate, she found joy in simple pleasures like playing in the sprinkler and swimming in the Hudson River.
Her father taught at Syracuse University, and the family later moved to Albany. Megyn was close to her sister, seven years her senior, who cared for her with humor reflecting the women in her family. Initially, she was more distant from her brother, who felt annoyed by his younger sibling, but by the time she was 16, they had become much closer. Her mother worked as a nurse at the Albany Veterans Hospital.
After a high school aptitude test pointed towards journalism, Kelly aimed to become a journalist, attending Syracuse University. Her interest shifted to law as she explored political science and contemplated becoming a District Attorney. She achieved good grades and went on to Albany Law School, accruing $100,000 in debt.
Post-law school, Kelly worked at the prominent law firm Jones Day and was on track to make partner. However, she experienced burnout and, during a moment of clarity, realized that despite the lucrative offer, the law was not her calling. At 34, after practicing law for over nine years, she sought a career change, leaning on her legal expertise to pivot back into journalism.
She got her start at a local ABC affiliate in Washington, D.C., where Bill Lord gave her an opportunity to work on the air once a week on tape. After one year and nine months part-time, she transitioned to a full-time journalism role that allowed her to leave her law career. Her work did not go unnoticed; her production was sometimes broadcast on the sister cable station News Channel 8.
Megyn Kelly’s break came with Fox News. Mentored by Bill O'Reilly, she quickly gained visibility and credibility, eventually securing a prime-time anchor role, and hosted shows like "America's Newsroom," "America Live," and "The Kelly File." She moderated several presidential debates, including the first Republica ...
Megyn Kelly's personal and professional background
Megyn Kelly opens up about the frequent and common occurrences of sexual harassment at Fox News, remarking that it was "patient zero in the Me Too movement," transpiring a year before the Harvey Weinstein case. She shares her experiences of inappropriate behavior from her boss at Fox, Roger Ailes, including multiple unwanted advances.
Kelly recounts how Roger Ailes called her to New York for unusual face-to-face meetings, which eventually resulted in a disturbing attempt by Ailes to kiss her, an incident she escaped by feigning a stumble. Following this assault, she prepared by contacting a lawyer and creating a situation to prevent Ailes from hiring her representation, should she need it. Despite reporting the episode to a supervisor, she received little sympathy, with assurances that Ailes was a "good man" in an unhappy marriage, and advice to stay away and ignore him.
While Ailes ceased his pursuit and did not retaliate, promoting Kelly to anchor in a couple of years without further incidents, she describes these experiences as potentially harmful. Despite later rejections of advances, Kelly describes a complex relationship with Ailes, who took a genuine interest in her career, offering valuable advice despite unwelcome comments and actions.
Megyn Kelly played a pivotal role in the sexual harassment scandal at Fox News. Her testimony during internal investigations contributed to exposing Ailes' misconduct. Initially, she was hesitant to come forward, fearing public humiliation and not wanting to betray Ailes, who had mentored her.
Kelly only decided to cooperate with investigators upon learning that her friend, Janice Dean, also had an inappropriate encounter with Ailes. The eventual investigation forced Kelly to weigh her past positive relationship with Ailes against the need to protect other women.
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Megyn Kelly's experiences with sexual harassment and the Me Too movement
Megyn Kelly speaks out against what she perceives as the failings in the mainstream media and its handling of current events, advocating for integrity and scrutiny in journalism, as well as caution in the approach to social issues.
Megyn Kelly addresses the problems of scripted content within media networks like NBC and The View and asserts that mainstream media has lost its way, particularly when it comes to the coverage of Republicans and conservative figures. She laments that much of on-air content is pre-arranged, going against what she values as spontaneity and authentic journalistic practices.
Megyn Kelly accuses mainstream media of lying about Republicans and MAGA Republicans, claiming that corporate media, which she no longer considers "mainstream," is experiencing its end times. She compares the current state to historical periods of extreme partisanship, arguing that understanding bias is key to finding the truth.
Megyn Kelly discusses her disappointment with the authorities during the COVID-19 pandemic, citing the negative psychological effects of reporting as a cause for distrust. She also highlights what she refers to as the "lies" beginning in 2015 with the rise of "Trump derangement syndrome," suggesting that the resulting bias has tarnished media credibility.
Megyn Kelly is skeptical of journalists expressing support for political figures like Joe Biden and argues that the lack of objective scrutiny given to Biden compared to Donald Trump reflects a deep bias within the media industry. She points to instances where media outlets have outrightly shown their bias and departs from fact-based journalism.
Additionally, Kelly condemns the media's treatment of figures like J.D. Vance, illustrating how the media selectively uses comments to push certain narratives. She predicts that if Trump wins another term, mainstream media will yet again employ extremely negative coverage, contrasting the current milder scrutiny of Biden.
Furthermore, Megyn Kelly cites the struggles of CNN and the dismissal of Norah O'Donnell from CBS as indications of the mainstream media's decline, while questioning the future of major news companies and their capacity to survive the changing landscape.
Kelly credits the formation of alternative media, like her own show, as a response to the bias in mainstream outlets. These platforms emerged to serve audiences seeking objective facts, particularly right-leaning viewers.
Megyn Kelly shares her views on controversial topics such as transgender issues in children and sports, immigration, and the importance of policing. She expresses discontent with mandates to endorse movements like Black Lives Matter and criticizes COVID-related restrictions.
She delves into transgender issues, making stark comparisons to historical medical missteps, such as lobotomies, to the present treatment of transgender chil ...
Megyn Kelly's views on the media landscape and current events
Megyn Kelly reflects on her Catholic upbringing, her struggle with Church doctrines, and her openness to other beliefs. She discusses moments of spiritual connection, questioning church rules, and the exploration of her faith.
Raised Catholic, Megyn Kelly still identifies with the faith but admits she finds challenges with certain Church doctrines. She recounts needing a priest for her sister’s last rites due to her Catholic upbringing, despite struggling with the idea of needing a religious figure to affirm her standing with God after a legal divorce and remarriage. Kelly discusses the Catholic practices from her background, such as Sunday Mass and CCD, yet she sometimes questions the Church's stringent rules. She feels an internal conflict about the requirements for communion and confession and describes the difficulty of getting an annulment as "ridiculous."
Despite not being devout or observant of all the Church's rules, Kelly has a strong ethical compass influenced by the Church, her parents, and her Girl Scout troop. Though she's missed a few Sunday Masses, she suggests that her connection to Catholic practices persists. Her uncertainty about how to interact with her faith indicates she is still exploring her spiritual journey, questioning what is genuinely required of her religiously.
Kelly advises leaning into faith even when one doesn’t feel faithful, finding comfort in sitting in a church, especially in times of grief—like after her father’s death. She suggests places like churches can offer solace and allows time for children to process their loss. Kelly speaks of experiencing signs from her father, such as playing a song on guitar he used to sing to her, making her feel his presence.
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Megyn Kelly's spiritual and religious beliefs and journey
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