In this Shawn Ryan Show episode, John Burke, a former agnostic engineer, discusses his journey to faith through extensive research into near-death experiences (NDEs). He shares common elements found in over 1,000 NDE cases across diverse cultures, including verifiable out-of-body observations, encounters with deceased loved ones, and interactions with a loving divine presence.
Burke highlights specific transformative NDE cases, such as Howard Storm's hellish experience that led him from atheism to Christianity, and Colton Burpo's account that sparked his family's spiritual renewal. He explores how NDE testimonies describe spiritual realms and an afterlife aligning with scientific theories of higher dimensions and biblical prophecies, challenging materialistic views of consciousness.
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John Burke, once an agnostic, skeptical engineer, transformed into a believer through researching near-death experiences (NDEs). His interest was sparked when his dying father gave him NDE research; Burke later joined a Bible study group and began attending an open-minded church.
Over 35 years, Burke studied over 1,000 NDE cases from diverse cultures. He found that experiencers commonly feel more alive than ever, recognize deceased loved ones, and encounter a loving divine presence. Many accounts defied materialistic consciousness theories, influencing Burke's shift from viewing Christian concepts metaphorically to representations of an afterlife reality.
NDEs often feature verifiable out-of-body observations, heightened senses, and encounters with deceased relatives and divine figures. According to Burke, experiencers accurately describe events during clinical death, perceive in multiple dimensions, and recognize beings they've never met.
Howard Storm, an atheist professor, endured a hellish NDE that revealed his selfishness. Through a life review of God's guidance throughout his life, he converted to Christianity. Colton Burpo, a child, had an NDE where he gained knowledge of his family's intimate details, sparking their spiritual renewal.
Burke found diverse NDE accounts describing spiritual realms and afterlife details, aligning with scientific proposals of higher dimensions and certain biblical prophecies. Descriptions of light, gates, and angels match Scripture, challenging brain-based consciousness theories.
NDE testimonies depict God as infinitely loving, yet personal—characterized by joy, beauty, and purpose. This relational nature parallels biblical portrayals. Burke interprets NDEs and Scripture as revealing both heaven's fulfillment and hell's self-imposed torment for those rejecting God.
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John Burke shares his personal transformation from a skeptical, agnostic engineer to a believer in faith through his extensive research into near-death experiences (NDEs).
Originally, Burke was an agnostic skeptic with a church background that he found ritualistic and lacking space for doubt. Shawn Ryan highlights Burke's analytical nature due to his engineering past. Burke himself discussed how his skepticism, especially surrounding the existence of God and the divinity of Jesus, made him feel unwelcome in church environments. However, his interest in faith was reignited when his dying father handed him pioneering research on NDEs, which he read in one night, sparking his curiosity about the evidence for an afterlife.
Burke joined a Bible study group in a home that welcomed his skepticism and questions. This engagement, along with his exposure to a large body of NDE research in Santa Barbara where he worked, prompted a shift in his worldview. This curiosity about faith grew as he began his own church that appealed to those who usually wouldn’t attend traditional church services, embodying a space that encouraged exploring faith in God.
Over 35 years, Burke has studied more than 1,000 NDE cases and noted common elements among them. For instance, experiencers often report feeling more alive than ever, even during episodes where there should be no consciousness. Burke's own theology shifted from viewing Christian concepts as metaphorical to seeing them as representations of a reality beyond this life. This includes beliefs about the existence of both a benevolent side and a horrifying one beyond death.
Burke's in-depth research involved interviewing individuals from various continents and religious backgrounds. Through his work, Burke discovered that a significant proportion of people having NDEs encounter a God of light and love who is intimately personal. These encounters frequently lead to life reviews in which individuals realize God is not condemning but ...
John Burke's personal journey from skepticism to faith through NDE research
Near-death experiences (NDEs) often contain several common elements, including verifiable observations from an out-of-body perspective and encounters with deceased loved ones and divine presence. John Burke shares encounters and research on this fascinating phenomenon, offering insights into why these experiences may not simply be the result of brain activity.
John Burke reports that near-death experiencers often find themselves above their bodies, observing their own resuscitation efforts. Once these individuals are resuscitated, they can report observations of events that occurred during their time of clinical death, which can be checked for accuracy. For example, Vicki, who died in a car accident, watched her surgical operation from an out-of-body perspective. Santhosh heard "code blue" during his cardiac arrest and experienced viewing his body from above.
Dr. Sabom interacted with a patient named Pete, who observed his heart attack resuscitation from out of his body, providing accurate details of the procedure. Dr. Sabom's subsequent research over five years corroborated the authenticity of such experiences, supported by verifiable observations that were accurate or mostly accurate 98% of the time, as John Burke mentioned, citing a study.
John Burke shares accounts of NDE experiencers talking about having an expanded perception during their experience. They describe multi-dimensional senses – for example, having telescopic eyesight, where they can see thousands of miles as though up close, and observing every minute detail. Vicki, who had congenital blindness, experienced sight during her NDE, perceiving different shades of brightness. Furthermore, communication between individuals and otherworldly beings is experienced as pure, direct thought-to-thought exchanges with complete understanding.
NDE experiencers commonly report being greeted by a "welcoming committee" of deceased relatives or divine figures upon their arrival in the afterlife. Mary described an NDE where she was joyously welcomed by ...
Common elements and experiences reported by NDE experiencers
Near-death experiences (NDEs) often bring about profound transformations in individuals. Two such cases include the dramatic shifts in the lives of Howard Storm and Colton Burpo after their respective NDEs.
Howard Storm, an atheist college professor, had a life-changing NDE during a Europe tour when his duodenum ruptured. He initially experienced a pleasant state but was led into a hellish place by deceiving figures. Here, where the truth was absolute, Howard was mauled by creatures symbolizing his own earthly selfishness and malevolence. He heard a voice instructing him to pray, resulting in a struggle that culminated in the creatures retreating as he sought God. This epiphany marked the start of his transformation.
During this harrowing NDE, Howard also underwent a life review, which confronted him with the harsh truths about his past actions, highlighting moments of selfishness and infidelity. He saw his entire life, including interactions with his abusive father, from a divine perspective. Howard felt the pain Jesus felt as a result of his harmful actions, as well as the joy from comforting moments. After experiencing the unconditional presence of God throughout his life, Howard realized his need for redemption and truth. He became a Christian pastor following his NDE, focusing on kindness and selflessness driven by his newfound faith.
During a surgical operation, young Colton Burpo underwent an NDE where he claimed to sit on Jesus' lap, and angels sang to him. After this experience, Co ...
Specific NDE case studies and their impacts on experiencers' lives
In exploring the reality of near-death experiences (NDEs), Shawn Ryan's documentary "Case for Heaven" features John Burke, who presents scientific and biblical evidence aligning with consistent NDE accounts across cultural and religious backgrounds.
John Burke's research into NDEs encompasses accounts from people of every religious background, suggesting a consistency across diverse cultures. Burke interviewed individuals, including a Hindu who described the holy city of God exactly as it is detailed in the Bible, despite never having read it. Furthermore, instances involving individuals like Vicki and Brad Burroughs, who reported seeing light during their NDEs despite being blind since birth, defy materialistic or brain-based theories of consciousness.
These accounts challenge the materialistic perspective on consciousness, which posits that consciousness is solely a product of brain activity. Studies cited by Burke, such as Dr. Jan Holden's research on cardiac arrest patients and Dr. Jeffrey Long's study of thousands of NDEs, support the notion that consciousness persists beyond the brain's functionality.
Burke notes that the scientific hypothesis positing other dimensions beyond our perception lends credence to the reality of NDEs. He references scientists like Kaluza and Klein, who theorized about a fifth dimension reconciling general relativity and quantum mechanics, and string theory's proposal of up to 11 dimensions.
People who have had NDEs are thought to have a thinner veil separating them from the spiritual realm, leading to experiences of premonitions or foreknowledge. Burke discusses how NDEs provide a challenge to materialistic and brain-based theories of consciousness, especially when considering that people describe experiences that transcend our conventional understanding of time.
Burke investigates the alignment between NDE accounts and biblical descriptions of the afterlife, finding several parallels. For example, descriptions of light in NDEs are consistent with biblical passages in Isaiah and Revelation, where God is described as the light in a city without a sun or moon. Additionally, Santhosh, a person from a Hindu background, reco ...
Scientific and biblical evidence supporting the reality of NDEs
John Burke discusses his interpretations and insights regarding the divine, the afterlife, and the nature of God, heaven, and hell, informed by extensive research into near-death experiences (NDEs).
John connects the diverse creativity found on Earth to the idea that God might be responsible for even more than we understand, such as other dimensions. Drawing from his exploration of NDEs, he finds consistency in these experiences, pointing toward an understanding of God, heaven, and the afterlife that resonates with his faith. In his book "Imagine the God of Heaven," Burke references accounts of individuals feeling a profound beauty, joy, and purpose in God's presence during NDEs. Experiencers often describe God as light and love, with Mary encountering Jesus as bottomless kindness and compassion, and another neurosurgeon describing standing in God's presence as being next to the kindest person multiplied by a thousand times, combined with overwhelming power. Vicki, Brad Burroughs, and others have felt an immense love from the light they encountered during their NDEs, hinting at a divine presence characterized by love.
Burke touches on the loving relationality of God as he crafts a parallel between human capacity for love and God's desire for relationship. He emphasizes that God, as both revealed in scripture and in NDEs, is more mysterious, powerful, and sovereign than we can imagine, yet also more relatable and personable.
His research indicates that heaven is a dynamic and fulfilling existence and that God is not just judgmental or punitive but focused on joy. Experiencers like Jim Woodford and Dean Braxton speak to the individuality of God's love, suggesting that each person feels uniquely cherished.
John Burke's reflections include the implications of free will in the context of NDEs. He discusses how individuals can pursue God or go their own way. Burke connects these decisions to the Apostle Paul's conversion, highlighting the life-changing impact of choosing to follow Jesus. Another interviewee, Santosh, encountered God during an NDE and was told to "Surrender yourself to me daily and walk with me," exemplifying personal choice in the spiritual journey.
Burke also brings up the dangers of experiencing other realms unprotected, such as through psychedelics. He notes that some NDE experiencers report hellish realms and highlights the need to reconcile both positive and negative accounts to understand the phenomenon.
He mentions that some people, during their NDE, are shown both heaven and hell which might signify a choice or a last chance at redemption. Burke suggests that the experience of different places in the afterlife underscores the influence of free will on one's ultimat ...
John's theological insights on God, heaven, and the afterlife based on NDE research
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