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I Went Through All Of D4vd's Online History & Here's Why People Think He Killed 14 Year Old Celeste

By Stephanie Soo & Ramble

In this episode of Rotten Mango, host Stephanie Soo examines various theories surrounding the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez, whose body was found in David's parked Tesla. The summary covers David's digital footprint, including his TikTok activity and music content, which some interpret as showing patterns of possessiveness in relationships. It also details the timeline of Celeste's disappearance and final known whereabouts.

The summary explores multiple theories about what happened to Celeste, from accidental death to more serious allegations. It also outlines potential legal implications, including possible charges that could stem from the age difference between David and Celeste, and the involvement of the LAPD robbery and homicide unit in the investigation.

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I Went Through All Of D4vd's Online History & Here's Why People Think He Killed 14 Year Old Celeste

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Theories About What Happened to Celeste Rivas Hernandez

Several theories have emerged regarding Celeste's death. Some netizens speculate that David killed her as part of a "Hollywood sacrifice" for fame, pointing to his song releases and cryptic album content. Others argue for David's innocence, noting that his friends believed Celeste was older and attended USC. Additional theories include the possibility of accidental death, such as an overdose or car accident. Stephanie Soo presents theories about David's possessive nature leading to a crime of passion, and the possibility that Celeste was killed after realizing she was being groomed.

David's Digital Footprint and Social Media Activity

David's social media presence has drawn significant attention. His TikTok reposts reveal concerning patterns of possessiveness and jealousy in relationships. Stephanie Soo and co-hosts note his sharing of content about obsessive devotion and partner surveillance. His music, particularly albums like "Withered" and songs such as "There Goes My Baby," has been scrutinized for potential clues about his relationship with Celeste and possible involvement in her death.

Timeline of Celeste's Disappearance and Death

Celeste had a history of running away from home, as discussed by Stephanie Soo. During her disappearance, David maintained an active touring schedule, including performances in Asia from August to November. Her body was discovered on September 8th in David's parked Tesla and identified on September 17th. The last confirmed sighting of Celeste was in a summer video showing her walking backstage at David's concert.

The investigation could lead to several potential charges against David. Given the age difference between David and Celeste, statutory rape charges are possible if their relationship is confirmed. With the LAPD robbery and homicide unit's involvement, homicide charges might be forthcoming. Stephanie Soo suggests that if evidence shows Celeste crossed state lines, federal sex trafficking charges could also be pursued.

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Counterarguments

  • The "Hollywood sacrifice" theory is speculative and lacks concrete evidence; it may be sensationalizing a tragedy without factual basis.
  • Friends' beliefs about Celeste's age and university attendance do not necessarily equate to evidence of David's innocence.
  • Accidental death theories must be substantiated by forensic evidence rather than speculation.
  • Possessiveness in social media posts does not directly imply guilt in a crime; correlation does not equal causation.
  • Scrutinizing song lyrics for clues can lead to misinterpretation, as artistic expression is not always autobiographical or literal.
  • A history of running away from home does not necessarily relate to the circumstances of Celeste's death.
  • Being on tour does not provide an alibi for the entire period of Celeste's disappearance; it only accounts for David's whereabouts during the tour dates.
  • The discovery of Celeste's body in David's Tesla is circumstantial evidence and does not prove causation or intent.
  • The last sighting of Celeste at a concert does not provide information on the events leading to her death.
  • Statutory rape charges would require proof of a sexual relationship between David and Celeste.
  • Homicide charges would need to be supported by evidence of David's involvement in Celeste's death.
  • Federal sex trafficking charges would necessitate evidence of Celeste being transported across state lines for the purpose of sexual exploitation.

Actionables

- You can analyze song lyrics for emotional undertones by creating a journal where you document your reactions to different songs, noting any lyrics that evoke strong feelings or seem to tell a story. This can help you understand how artists express complex emotions and narratives through their music, similar to how David's songs were scrutinized for clues.

  • Develop a better understanding of relationship dynamics by observing social media behavior among your friends and public figures, noting patterns of possessiveness or jealousy without making judgments. This observational exercise can increase your awareness of how these traits manifest online, akin to how David's TikTok reposts were indicative of his relationship tendencies.
  • Enhance your personal safety awareness by researching and creating a simple guide on recognizing grooming behaviors and understanding consent, especially in the context of age-discrepant relationships. This guide can serve as a resource for you and your peers to prevent and identify potentially harmful situations, reflecting the concerns raised about Celeste's interactions with David.

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Theories About What Happened to Celeste Rivas Hernandez

In the mysterious case of Celeste Rivas Hernandez, several theories have surfaced attempting to explain her untimely death.

The "Killed For Fame" Theory

Netizens have speculated that David might have sought to gain fame through a "Hollywood sacrifice." They theorize he killed Celeste in a Faustian bargain, with the idea that a life must be given up in exchange for success. Evidence cited by proponents of this theory include the timing of his song releases, notably right before Celeste's body was discovered, and David's own rapid ascent in the industry. Observations of David's eyes—Sanpaku eyes, associated with a tragic fate—further fueled this speculation, as did his apparently cryptic album "Withered," which some interpret as a premeditated farewell. The netizens also pointed to song "Ghost" which they believe sounds like an admission of guilt and the cover art for the song "there goes my baby" that features a likeness of Celeste.

The "David Is Innocent" Theory

Conversely, there's a counter-theory advocating for David's innocence, suggested by the fact that his friends thought Celeste was older, attending USC. This theory questions whether David was even aware of Celeste's true age. There is speculation over the authenticity of David's relationship with Celeste, with some suggesting that another individual in his social circle, potentially a brother or a friend, could be responsible. The lack of arrest and conversations in comment threads hint at growing support for David's innocence. Photos and shared social media posts allude to a relationship between David and Celeste, yet leave room for doubt.

The "Accidental Death" Theory

Another possibility proposed is that Celeste’s death was accidental. It’s theorized that she might have overdosed, prompting David or one of his team members to hide her body, or that she was accidentally hit by a car.

The "Jealous and Possessive" Theory

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Counterarguments

  • The "Killed For Fame" Theory might be a result of confirmation bias, where unrelated events are linked post hoc.
  • David's Sanpaku eyes are a physical trait and not reliable evidence of character or actions.
  • Song lyrics and album art are often metaphorical or fictional and not necessarily reflective of real-life actions.
  • The "David Is Innocent" Theory could be supported by a lack of concrete evidence linking him to the crime.
  • Celeste's age and David's knowledge of it could be verified through investigation rather than speculation.
  • The "Accidental Death" Theory could be countered by forensic evidence that might indicate foul play or natural causes.
  • The "Jealous and Possessive" Theory may rely too heavily on social media, which can be performative and not indicative of real-life behavior.
  • The "Celeste Real ...

Actionables

  • You can enhance your critical thinking skills by analyzing song lyrics and public statements of celebrities for hidden meanings or admissions. Start by selecting a few songs or statements from different artists and write down any phrases that seem to have a double meaning or an unusual choice of words. Discuss these findings with friends or online forums to see if others interpret them in the same way or differently.
  • Develop a better understanding of body language and facial expressions by observing people in public spaces and noting any features that are often associated with certain emotions or states of mind, like Sanpaku eyes. Take a notebook to a cafe or park and discreetly jot down your observations, then research what these expressions might signify about a person's emotional state or health.
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David's Digital Footprint and Social Media Activity

David's usage of social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram reveals a pattern that has raised concerns amongst netizens regarding his sentiments toward relationships and hints at internal turmoil connected to the disappearance and death of Celeste.

Concerning Social Media Posts and Reposts

David's Tiktok Reposts Reveal Possessiveness, Jealousy, and Disturbing Relationship Attitudes

David's social media activity following a significant event includes TikTok reposts with disturbing overtones of possessiveness, jealousy, and problematic attitudes toward relationships. For instance, he reposted a TikTok that reads, "me explaining that according to psychology, when someone knows they treated you wrong, they avoid you. It's called a guilty conscience. They lack the maturity to apologize for their disrespectful actions. And because they lack accountability, they simply remove themselves from your life." Moreover, he seems to have adopted Celeste’s love for Hello Kitty and wears bracelets similar to Celeste's, which may indicate possessiveness.

Stephanie Soo and co-hosts have scrutinized his TikToks as revealing a significantly jealous character. He shared content implying that he values obsessive devotion as a love language and feels fear when his partner sees him in a non-ideal state. His reposts on topics such as micro-cheating and extreme possessive behaviors paint a concerning picture. Additionally, complaints about Twitter updates preventing stalking, and rejoicing in content about partner surveillance suggest deeply troubling relationship attitudes.

David's reposts have evolved to include expressions of self-doubt and self-pity, which seem to reveal an inner conflict that may tie back to his relationship with Celeste. Some reposts publicly process emotions like depressive episodes and the desire for romantic commitment. Analysis of his reposts by media commentators like Stephanie Soo highlight this possessive and unhealthy relationship paradigm.

Social Media Hints at Coded Messages or Public Emotional Processing

David's social media activity has been under the microscope for potential coded messages and emotional processing. On TikTok, he shared his feelings through captions that spoke to a state of hurt and disappointment, while an interview indicates he might hold an obsessively idealized concept of love.

Fans and investigators have dissected his digital presence to uncover possible clues about his relationship with Celeste. For example, on what would have been Celeste’s 13th birthday, David posted about sharing "the saddest songs" he has ever made. He has also shared posts about reading old messages with "her" and displayed self-contempt, hinting at private emotional states being publicly aired.

Theories About His Music and Lyrics

Fans Scrutinize David's Songs and Videos For Clues on Relationship With Celeste and Role in Her Death

Fans and sleuths are meticulously parsing David's song lyrics and video content for hints about his relationship with Celeste. His track "There Goes My Baby" addresses letting go of someone and recognizing one's own faults in a breakup. Moreover, lyrics such as "never want to lose you" and other songs like "Feel It" raise questions. The analytical community has leveraged anything from music video imagery to lyrical pitch adjustments to piece together narratives involving Celeste.

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  • David's TikTok reposts could be interpreted in multiple ways and may not necessarily reflect his true feelings or attitudes.
  • Social media activity is often a curated presentation and may not accurately represent a person's real-life behavior or mental state.
  • Posts that seem to be coded messages or emotional processing could also be a form of artistic expression or a way to connect with his audience rather than direct reflections of his personal life.
  • Fans and investigators might be reading too much into David's s ...

Actionables

  • You can analyze your own digital footprint to understand how your emotions influence your online behavior. Start by reviewing your past social media posts and messages, looking for patterns that might indicate emotional states or subconscious feelings. For example, if you notice an increase in sharing quotes or songs during a tough breakup, it might reflect your emotional processing during that time.
  • Develop a personal code for emotional expression that maintains your privacy while still allowing you to vent or share feelings. Create a list of symbols, emojis, or words that represent different emotions or thoughts, and use them in your online communication as a subtle way to express yourself. For instance, a specific emoji could stand for a day when you're feeling overwhelmed, which your close friends would understand without you having to explicitly state it.
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Timeline of Celeste's Disappearance and Death

The disappearance and death of Celeste are a matter of public concern, with Stephanie Soo discussing the implications of her history of running away and the activities of David during her disappearance.

Celeste's Missing Person History

Celeste's History Of Running Away Raises Concerns

Celeste had a history of running away from home, which caused concern. Stephanie Soo mentions that Celeste had been reported missing last year, raising questions about how her family knew she was around after her disappearance. Soo addresses the public criticism towards Celeste's family for not taking better care of her and allowing her to run away multiple times. It's noted that Celeste went missing several times before being officially reported with a missing child's poster, with the police sometimes returning her home, although not all instances may have been reported.

David's Activities During Celeste's Disappearance

David's Music Release During Celeste's Disappearance Seems Suspicious

David was on tour, performing, including a show on September 9th while Celeste's body was found in his parked Tesla. He continued to travel for his tour in Asia from August to November and released another song, "Where Did It Go Wrong?", in December of 2024. However, his activities, such as a social media post with a morbid image of a cat, the release of his music, including the Fortnite anthem "Locked and Loaded," and his posts about relationships, coinciding with Celeste’s disappearance have raised suspicions.

A performance by David in Houston a few months ago, possibly in July, led to a breakdown which Stephanie suggests might be linked to "so many emotional ties" possibly related to Celeste. David's music video collaboration for "Summer Uptown" and social media posts referring to missing his girlfriend further suggest a connection to Celeste’s disappearance.

Alleged Sightings and Interactions With Celeste

Unconfirmed Reports and Speculation on David's Interactions With Celeste, Including a Concert Sighting

Unconfirmed sightings and interactions have fueled speculation. A TikTok video showed Celeste possibly attending a family gathering months after she was reported missing. There's difficulty in confirming the validity of reported sightings, and images of any girl who hides her face are often associated with Celeste. Comments suggest s ...

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Timeline of Celeste's Disappearance and Death

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  • You can enhance personal safety by setting up a check-in system with friends or family when traveling or attending events, ensuring someone always knows your whereabouts. For example, share your live location using a smartphone app or establish regular check-in times via text or call, especially if you're in a situation similar to attending concerts or events like Celeste.
  • Develop critical thinking by analyzing social media behavior patterns of public figures or friends to practice identifying inconsistencies or red flags. Start by observing posting frequency, content changes, and public reactions over time, then discuss your observations with a peer group to compare interpretations and sharpen your analytical skills.
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Potential Legal Implications and Charges David Could Face

As the investigation unfolds, the co-hosts discuss various legal implications that David could face, though no charges have been mentioned as of the provided podcast transcript.

Statutory Rape Charges

Given the age difference between David and Celeste, the co-hosts indicate that David may face statutory rape charges if their relationship is confirmed. No specific legal charges are discussed, but Stephanie Soo points out public anger towards Celeste's family, implying a significant age difference that could lead to statutory rape charges. The mention that David allegedly promised to marry Celeste when she turns 18, along with images of her with a diamond ring, suggest that there's a relationship that could lead to charges if confirmed. It is widely speculated among netizens that David could face at least statutory rape charges due to the age difference. Additionally, concerns about Celeste being described as older than she was at the time of her death tie back into the potential for statutory rape charges.

Homicide Charges

While the cause of Celeste's death is deferred, the LAPD robbery and homicide unit's involvement and a slip in a statement suggesting it's a homicide investigation raise suspicions that David might face related charges. Although no specific charges of homicide are discussed in the transcript, there is public sentiment holding David responsible for Celeste's death, with some people suggesting he deserves severe penalties. Stephanie Soo mentions an incident where David allegedly had someone dead in his trunk, which, if connecte ...

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  • Understanding the laws regarding age of consent can help you make informed decisions in your personal relationships. For example, if you're involved in youth mentorship or dating, knowing these laws can protect you and others from legal repercussions.
  • Learn basic first aid and CPR to be prepared for emergencies where someone might be injured or unresponsive, by enrolling in a certified course offered by organizations like the Red Cross.
  • Being equipped with first aid skills can be crucial in saving lives in unexpected situations. For instance, if you come across a car accident, you could provide immediate assistance while waiting for emergency services to arrive.
  • Familiarize yourself with the signs of sex trafficking and how to report it by visiting websites ...

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