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We Sat Down W/ Someone Who Went To The Same Jail As Diddy & Luigi - The Truth About MDC Brooklyn

By Stephanie Soo & Ramble

In this episode of Rotten Mango, a former detainee shares their experience at the Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) in Brooklyn. The discussion covers the intake process at MDC, from initial arrest and medical screenings to the confiscation of personal belongings, as well as daily life in the facility's crowded dormitory environment, which houses 120 inmates under constant fluorescent lighting.

The guest describes the complex social systems and informal economy that develop among inmates, using items like mackerel packets as currency. They also detail significant events during their incarceration, including an inmate death and an unusual incident involving a corrections officer. The conversation extends to the challenges of post-release life, from managing sensory overload to adapting to technology and rebuilding daily routines with support from family and friends.

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The Intake and Booking Process at MDC

A recent detainee describes his arrival at the Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) in Brooklyn. After arrest by federal agents and medical clearance at St. Vincent's Hospital, he underwent a thorough intake process including strip searches, belongings confiscation, and various health screenings. The speaker notes that his experience was particularly challenging due to pre-arrest drug use, which led to withdrawal symptoms during booking. As a safety precaution, officers removed items like shoelaces and belts before transport.

Prison Life and Conditions

The interviewee details life in MDC's overcrowded dormitory, which houses 120 inmates under constant fluorescent lighting. The space, lacking windows and filled with multiple languages and constant noise, creates an overwhelming sensory experience. To cope with these conditions, inmates develop routines around jobs, exercise, and activities like reading and writing. The speaker describes working early morning cleaning shifts and creating structured days around mealtimes, which become crucial points of social interaction.

Social Dynamics, Informal Systems, and Economy Within Prison

Within MDC, inmates have established complex social systems for maintaining peace and conducting business. The speaker explains how they use items like mackerel packets (known as "Macs") and stamps as currency for services and trades. Social codes help maintain order, with inmates often intervening to prevent conflicts from escalating. Communication between inmates occurs through creative means, including yelling through vents, and relationships form despite the restrictive environment.

Memorable Incarceration Events and Experiences

Two significant events stand out in the speaker's account: the death of an inmate in the bathroom, which raised concerns about how deaths are reported to families, and an unusual incident where a corrections officer showed inmates a pornographic film. The speaker reflects on how the latter event, though questionable, revealed the profound human need for connection among the incarcerated population.

Transition and Reintegration After Prison Release

The speaker describes the overwhelming sensory experience of release, including physical reactions like carsickness from traffic. The transition presented numerous challenges, from managing intense emotions to relearning basic daily activities. Support networks proved crucial, with the speaker receiving help with post-release necessities and technology adaptation. Despite facing ongoing requirements like supervised release and drug tests, the speaker found ways to rebuild their life through writing, healthy habits, and family support.

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- You can enhance empathy for inmates by simulating a "day in the life" experience, such as spending an evening without technology, using minimal lighting, and following a strict schedule to better understand the impact of incarceration conditions on daily life.

  • By temporarily adopting some of the constraints faced by inmates, you gain a firsthand perspective of the challenges within a controlled environment. For example, you might choose to read or write by dim light instead of using your phone or computer for an evening, or you might follow a strict schedule for meals and activities to simulate the regimented life of an inmate.
  • Create a care package for a recently released individual that includes items to help with sensory overload and reintegration, like noise-canceling headphones, a prepaid cell phone, or a journal for processing experiences.
  • This act of kindness can significantly ease the transition for someone adjusting to life outside of prison. The noise-canceling headphones can help manage overwhelming sounds, the prepaid phone can connect them with support networks, and the journal can be a private space for reflection and emotional management.
  • Volunteer to participate in or support a local reentry program that assists former inmates with adapting to new technology and daily life skills.
  • By offering your time to these programs, you contribute to the successful reintegration of individuals into society. You don't need special skills to assist; simply being there to help someone navigate a smartphone, set up an email account, or practice a job interview can make a substantial difference in their adjustment process.

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The Intake and Booking Process at Mdc

The process of intake and booking at the Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) in Brooklyn is a thorough and disorienting procedure for new detainees, as exemplified by the experiences of a recent arrestee.

Arrest, Booking, and Intake Procedures at Mdc Facility

An unidentified speaker recounted his ordeal after being taken into custody by federal agents who brought him to the MDC Brooklyn facility.

Federal Agents Entered, Arrested Him, and Brought Him To the Mdc Facility, Where He Endured a Difficult Intake: Strip Searched, Belongings Confiscated, and Medical Evaluation

After being arrested by federal agents, the speaker was taken to St. Vincent's Hospital for a medical evaluation. The doctors there declared him healthy enough for incarceration. Following his arraignment, he was shackled by hands and feet and transported to MDC Brooklyn. At MDC Brooklyn, he went through a strip search; his personal belongings were either discarded or placed in a box to be shipped back. He received a prison uniform, was photographed, and questioned during a basic intake process. Additionally, he was taken to a medical intake unit designed for new inmates, where he underwent more health checks, including chest x-rays, a dental examination, and tuberculosis tests.

During the booking process, correctional officers probed Michael about any gang affiliations. They assumed he was part of a gang and decided to house him in the same unit as Luigi Mangione, another individual with alleged gang connections.

Disoriented and Unwell During Booking Due to Pre-arrest Drug Abuse

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  • You can create a personal emergency contact card to carry in your wallet, which includes medical information and contacts to be used in case you're incapacitated. This card should list any medical conditions, allergies, medications, and emergency contacts. It's a simple yet effective way to communicate your health status and personal wishes if you're unable to do so yourself.
  • Develop a self-care routine that includes regular health check-ups, such as dental exams and TB tests, to stay ahead of potential health issues. By scheduling these appointments annually or as recommended by your healthcare provider, you maintain control over your health and can address any concerns proactively.
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Prison Life and Conditions

An interviewee opens up about the intense conditions faced by inmates at the Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC), shedding light on the daily life and struggles within the facility's overcrowded and sensory-overwhelming environment.

Harsh, Overcrowded, Sensory-Overwhelming Open Dormitory at MDC

Interviewee In Noisy Dormitory With 120 Inmates Under Bright Fluorescent Lights

The interviewee was housed in an open dorm unit packed with 120 bunks in a space lacking windows, having only slits that barely let in outside light. The dormitory, described as full of noise with voices of men from all over the world, also housed a few toilet and shower stalls, laundry machines, and a tiny kitchen area. For safety, the full room remains lit brightly at all times, creating a sensory-overwhelming experience.

Stressful Dormitory Conditions During Drug Withdrawal

The interviewee recounts his first night in jail, detailing the stark sounds and lack of English spoken. This stressful environment was especially tumultuous during drug withdrawal. He also points out the discomfort due to seasonal changes, with no heat in winter and no air conditioning in summer.

Coping Mechanisms: Jobs, Exercise, Reading, and Fellowship

The interviewee finds solace in various activities. Luigi Mangione spends his time responding to letters and works cleaning showers every morning. Other inmates cope through jobs such as glass cleaning, exercise, engaging in conversations, participating in prayer groups, reading books, and writing, the last often done in the morning due to the scarcity of flat surfaces later in the day.

Inmate Daily Schedule and Activities in MDC Dormitory

Early Mornings Cleaning Before Inmates Woke Up

The interviewee is one of the few "early birds," waking up before others to wipe down all the glass surfaces for which he’s paid about 25 cents an hour. He appreciates the quiet before the day begins.

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  • A Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) is a type of federal government detention facility operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons in the United States. MDCs are designed to hold individuals who are awaiting trial, have been denied bail, or are in transit to other prisons. They serve various purposes, such as detaining pretrial offenders, managing inmates with medical issues, and housing dangerous or violent individuals.
  • The dormitory lacking windows with only slits for light indicates that the room does not have traditional windows that provide a view outside. Instead, there are small openings or slits in the walls that allow minimal natural light to enter the space. This design choice can impact the amount of natural light, ventilation, and overall ambiance within the dormitory.
  • The term "sensory-overwhelming experience" in the context of the dormitory at the Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) suggests that the environment is filled with excessive stimuli that can be intense and overpowering for the individuals living there. This could include factors like constant bright lighting, loud noises from numerous inmates, limited natural light, and the overall crowded and confined living conditions contributing to a heightened sensory load. Such an environment can lead to increased stress, discomfort, and challenges in focusing or relaxing for the inmates residing in the dormitory.
  • Coping mechanisms in prison are strategies that inmates use to deal with the challenges and stress of incarceration. These can include engaging in activities like jobs, exercise, reading, and writing, as well as seeking support through fellowship and conversations with other inmates. Inmates may also turn to religious practices, such as prayer groups, to find comfort and solace during their time in prison. These coping mechanisms help individuals manage their emotions, pass the time, and maintain a sense of purpose while incarcerated.
  • In some correctional facilities, inmates are sometimes paid a small wage for performing various tasks like cleaning, maintenance, or other work assignments. These wages are typically very low, often just a few cents to a few dollars per hour, and the work opportunities available to inmates can vary depending on the facility's policies and programs. Inmates may use the money they earn to purchase items from the commissary, make phone calls, or for other approved purposes within the prison system. These work assignments can provide a sense of pu ...

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Social Dynamics, Informal Systems, and Economy Within Prison

The complex social dynamics and informal economic systems that emerge within prison walls are a testament to human adaptability and the desire for structure even in the most controlled environments.

Interviewee Discusses Inmate Social Dynamics in MDC Dormitory

Inmates Create Social Code For Peace and Cooperation

In the Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC), inmates have developed a social code to foster peace and cooperation. Despite occasional physical altercations, there is a common understanding among the inmates that conflicts are to be avoided. In efforts to maintain this peace, other inmates often intervene to de-escalate situations, knowing that backing down from a fight is a difficult yet necessary decision to avoid further trouble. This code has resulted in a form of communal living evidenced by shared responsibilities such as meal preparation and using communal objects like a shared Tupperware container.

Inmates Created Informal Economies Using Mackerel, Stamps, and Monopoly Money As Currencies

The inmates have created their own informal economies using commodities like stamps and mackerel, known colloquially as "Macs," which serve as a standard currency inside the prison. Mackerel, in particular, is a staple protein that doubles as payment for services like laundry and barber appointments. Inmates also use "Macs" to gamble in poker games or to purchase personalized items such as greeting cards. Additionally, there are creative solutions to bypass the spending limits at the commissary, where inmates with financial means find ways to trade and make deals to acquire extra items with the help of other inmates.

The interviewee vividly describes how these informal economies are echoed in the way inmates play Monopoly—fast-paced, with side deals, rule-breaking, and heated disagreements—mirroring the social and economic interactions within t ...

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  • In prison contexts, "Macs" is a colloquial term used to reference mackerel, a type of fish that serves as a form of currency among inmates. Mackerel is valued for its versatility and can be exchanged for various goods and services within the prison economy. This unconventional currenc ...

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Memorable Incarceration Events and Experiences

The conversation reveals two poignant and unsettling events experienced during incarceration: the death of an inmate and the screening of an explicit film by a corrections officer, shedding light on prison life's harsh realities.

Interviewee Recounts Shocking Incident of Inmate's Death

According to the discussion, there was a dramatic incident where an inmate died under shocking conditions, and the response to the incident was equally unsettling for those who witnessed it.

Inmate's Bathroom Death Spurs Dramatic Staff Response, Shocks Inmates

The death of an inmate in the bathroom of a dormitory set off a flurry of activity within the prison. The man was found dead on the toilet. Detected by a fellow inmate due to the victim's motionless feet under the stall door, the door was kicked in to reveal the untimely death. Upon discovery, correctional officers activated the body alarm, drawing a significant staff response, including administrators and medical personnel, despite the fact that the inmate appeared to have been deceased for some time. CPR attempts were made in vain.

Interviewee Struck by Inmates' Reaction, Raising Concerns About Communication of Their Deaths To Families

Inmates were instructed to stay in their bunks while staff attempted to obscure visibility as they handled the situation and finally removed the body from the scene. The inmates were not only shocked but vocalized their skepticism regarding whether the true circumstances of the inmate's death would be conveyed to his family. They disputed the claims made by the staff that the inmate had passed away at the hospital, a narrative opposed by one of the inmates with challenges disregarded by the staff questioning the inmate's medical qualifications. Concern for how this death and the communication around it would impact the deceased's loved ones became a topic of concern. Inmates hesitated to discuss it over the phone, fearing call termination, though the interviewee had documented the event through written communication.

Officer Shows Inmates Pornographic Material on Tv

The second memorable event involved an unexpected and morally ambiguous gesture by a corrections officer toward the inmates, revealing the deep human need for connection within the confines of a prison.

Corrections Officer Showed Pornographic Film to Inmates

A corrections officer is said to have made a deliberate decision to bring in a TV and VCR, placing them in a location not monitored by cameras, and played a pornographic movie for the prisoners. This event, referred to as a high-energy occurrence, appeared to cater to the inmates' intense need for contact or excit ...

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  • When correctional officers activate a body alarm, it typically involves triggering a distress signal or alert system to notify staff of an emergency situation, such as a medical emergency, violence, or other critical incidents within a correctional facility. This action prompts a rapid response from staff members, including administrators and medical personnel, to address the situation and provide necessary assistance. The activation of a body alarm is a crucial safety measure in prisons to ensure swift intervention and support in potentially dangerous or urgent scenarios. It helps maintain security and order within the facility by enabling a coordinated and immediate response to unforeseen events.
  • In the context of inmates disputing staff claims about the inmate's death, it highlights the skepticism among the incarcerated individuals regarding the accuracy and transparency of information provided by prison authorities concerning the circumstances of the deceased inmate. This skepticism may stem from a lack of trust in the system or previous experiences of misinformation within the prison environment. The inmates' concerns about the communication of the death to the deceased's family suggest a broader issue of transparency and accountability within the prison system. This situation underscores the complex dynamics and challenges present in communication and trust between inmates and prison staff in such sensitive and distressing circumstances.
  • Inmates hesitating to discuss the incident over the phone may be due to concerns about privacy and potential monitoring of their conversations by prison authorities. Phone calls in correctional facilities are often monitored for security reasons, leading inmates to be cautious about discussing sensitive or controversial topics over the phone. This caution stems from a lack of confidentiality during phone conversations, which could result in repercussions or restrictions if certain topics are discussed openly.
  • During the incident where a corrections officer showed a pornographic film to inmates, the unexpected decorum displayed by the inmates refer ...

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Transition and Reintegration After Prison Release

The transition back into society after prison poses profound challenges for former inmates, as evidenced by one interviewee's personal recount of reacclimatization to daily life outside of prison.

Challenges of Reintegration After Release From Mdc

The interviewee described the complex process of adjusting to life after incarceration, including the physical, emotional, and social aspects that many might overlook.

Overwhelmed by Sensory Experience Upon Release

Upon learning about his impending release, the interviewee felt an overwhelming rush, signaling a drastic shift in sensory experience and emotional response. Once released, he recounted being overwhelmed by sensory inputs such as noise and light. His body had to readapt to even the most common external movements, with something as simple as car traffic inducing carsickness to the point of throwing up.

Interviewee On Reacclimatizing To Basic Daily Life Post-Prison

The interviewee experienced intense negative emotions, describing feelings of despair, humiliation, rage, and sorrow during his transition period. With his mind consumed with resentment, shame, and anxiety about the future, the adjustment was a slow and challenging process.

Even the anticipation of release, about eight hours prior, produced a burst of energy for the interviewee, though it was not necessarily a joyous anticipation, as it didn’t mark the end of his struggles. The emotional farewells with fellow inmates, one of whom was brought to tears, illustrated the deep connections made during incarceration.

Rebuilding Life: Overcoming Challenges, Reintegrating With Support, and Helping Others

In his personal reintegration, the interviewee highlighted the small luxuries that freedom afforded, like closing a bathroom door for privacy and having the agency to choose his own meals. In his apartment, surrounded by his own possessions, everything felt different, reprocessing the normalcy of a life with personal s ...

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  • You can volunteer to mentor a former inmate by partnering with a local reentry program, providing emotional support and guidance as they navigate post-release life. By becoming a mentor, you offer a listening ear and help with the adjustment process, sharing your own experiences with sensory overload or emotional management in new environments, and offering strategies that have worked for you.
  • Start a book club focused on literature that explores themes of freedom and confinement, inviting members of your community and those who have experienced incarceration. This can foster empathy and understanding, and provide a supportive space for discussing the emotional journey of regaining one's place in society.
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