In this episode of Rotten Mango, the disturbing case of Victoria Martens' murder is explored, centering around the controversial confession of her mother, Michelle Martins. The summary details the interrogation tactics used to elicit Michelle's confession, which her attorney claims were overly coercive.
Inconsistencies between the suspects' accounts and physical evidence are examined, leading to speculation about what truly happened to Victoria. The legal aftermath and sentencing of the three suspects, Jessica Kelley, Fabian Gonzales, and Michelle Martins, are discussed, as well as the involvement of Victoria's family and authorities.
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Michelle Martins claimed her confession was false, elicited by coercive questioning, Stephanie Soo says. Detectives used leading tactics like a nurturing tone while pressing Michelle, described as a people-pleaser with low intelligence susceptible to false confessions under pressure.
Critics say interrogators seemed to follow an "instruction manual" for eliciting false confessions. However, Soo notes detectives may have shown restraint given the case's monstrous nature. Still, Michelle's attorney alleged the tactics were overly leading.
The investigation revealed contradictions between suspects' accounts and evidence. Jessica blamed an unknown assailant, but Michelle implicated Jessica and Fabian. Fabian witnessed dismemberment but denied involvement, Soo says.
No [restricted term] was found in Victoria's system despite claims. Cell data suggested alibis for Fabian and Michelle, contradicting their statements. Victoria's autopsy showed signs of sexual assault by multiple perpetrators before her murder.
Online speculation implicates Jessica and an unknown male drug dealer in Victoria's murder and dismemberment, based on Jessica's behavior and her claim of an assailant, Soo explains.
Some theorize Jessica sold Victoria for drugs, leading to her assault or killing Victoria to cover it up. Opinions differ on Michelle and Fabian's responsibility despite their troubled histories, though most doubt their direct involvement.
Though doubts surrounded Michelle's confession, the three suspects were convicted, Soo says. Michelle received 12 years, Fabian 37.5 years for child abuse resulting in death and related charges. Jessica got 44 years.
The punishments drew public outcry for leniency given the crime's severity and the deceased child escalating charges.
Victoria's grandparents sued, claiming authorities failed to protect her despite abuse reports, though some criticized them too, according to Soo.
The decision to accept Michelle's confession despite contradictory evidence is seen as a misguided attempt to quickly "solve" the case. The DA's charge downgrade and false confession claim are viewed as efforts to avoid further scrutiny of investigation flaws.
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Michelle Martins claimed that her confession was false, raising questions about the interrogation tactics used by detectives that could have led to her coerced admission of guilt.
Stephanie Soo and others express concern over the possibility that the interrogation environment, combined with Michelle's personality traits and the specific tactics used by police, may have resulted in a false confession.
Michelle Martins underwent a police interrogation where tactics employed by detectives are scrutinized. Soo describes the questioning where officers used a nurturing tone with a female officer holding Michelle's hand, pressing her for details about the gruesome events. Michelle's story varied multiple times, from initially claiming no knowledge of the circumstances leading to her daughter Victoria's death to later changing her statements about witnessing events or assuming Victoria was asleep.
Detectives re-entered the room multiple times, sometimes appearing angry, pushing Michelle for details about the sexual assault. They were described as employing leading questions, disbelieving her actions immediately after the event, such as making dinner, and pressing for specific information about what transpired.
Michelle’s attorney and some who knew her argue that her low intelligence and her status as a people-pleaser may have made her particularly susceptible to giving a false confession. She was described as "very simple-minded," with an IQ around 90. Soo points out personality traits and situational factors, such as high levels of anxiety, low self-esteem, and being in a high-stress environment, such as an interrogation room for many hours, which could indeed make someone more likely to falsely confess under pressure.
Observers and legal experts criticize the interrogation tactics as overly leading, potentially compromising the validity of Michelle's confession.
The False Confession and Interrogation Tactics
The investigation of Victoria Martens's death reveals a complex mix of contradictions and unclear evidence, with accounts from suspects Jessica, Fabian, and Michelle casting doubt on each other's statements and their relationship to the crime.
Jessica detailed a narrative involving a well-dressed Mexican man who allegedly committed the violent assault and murder due to a debt owed by her cousin, and threatened her life if she told anyone. Alternatively, Jessica was overheard suggesting she was not involved in the murder but was present for its aftermath. Conversely, Michelle recounted a story implicating Jessica and Fabian in the act of dismembering Victoria. Michelle's whereabouts at the time of the crime were also inconsistent with her initial interrogations, as cell data showed that she was not home.
There was no [restricted term] found in Victoria's system, despite initial claims of [restricted term] overdose by Michelle. Additionally, evidence indicated that Fabian and Michelle might not have been present at the time of Victoria's death, with alibis supported by cell data. Fabian's accounts were also contradictory; he professed his and Victoria's mutual love and claimed ignorance of the crime, despite admitting to witnessing Jessica's horrifying actions and receiving threats from her.
Victoria's autopsy revealed manual strangulation as the cause of death, classified as a homicide. Signs of sexual assault were present, including disturbing evidence such as perimortem trauma and a sexually transm ...
The Conflicting Accounts and Evidence
Online sleuths and podcast discussions have proliferated with theories about the tragic murder and dismemberment of a young girl named Victoria. Various individuals have been named as possible perpetrators, and a morass of details complicate the picture of this horrific crime.
Speculations abound about who could be culpable for Victoria's death, with numerous online theorists suspecting the involvement of a woman named Jessica and a male drug dealer.
Jessica's odd behavior, her attacks against others, and her claims of an unknown assailant have led some people to credit the theory that she was involved in the murder. These speculations are amplified by the detail that after Victoria's murder, Jessica was the only one to flee from the police, with the others going voluntarily.
Some netizens believe that Jessica had dealings with a drug dealer to whom she sold Victoria in exchange for drugs. The theory posits that either the dealer assaulted Victoria and left, leading to Jessica killing and dismembering the girl to hide the crime, or the dealer committed the murder and Jessica then dismembered the body.
People are divided on the involvement of Michelle and Fabian in the murder of Victoria, with some pointing to previous behaviors as potential indicators of complicity or negligence.
Michelle Martins' confessions and history of bringing men into her home have drawn the ire of the public. While Michelle admitted to inviting men from dating websites to her house and according to a confession, watched them assault her kids and did i ...
The Theories About What Actually Happened To Victoria
Following the trial and amid controversies surrounding confessions, punishment has been meted out to Michelle Martins, Fabian Gonzales, and Jessica Kelley in the tragic case of a child's death. However, public opinion reflects a sentiment that these sentences do not match the gravity of the crime.
Despite her claim of a false confession and the debates around her involvement, Michelle Martins and two other suspects were convicted. The entire case seemed to be shrouded in uncertainty and confusion, especially regarding Michelle’s role. Yet, all three suspects were charged and convicted. Fabian Gonzales and Jessica Kelley were similarly convicted but spoke as if they expected their release. Ultimately, the suspects received plea deals and were sentenced.
In the sentencing, all three individuals saw their charges decreased from the initial murder charge. Michelle Martins was sentenced to 12 years for child abuse resulting in death. Fabian Gonzales received 37.5 years for reckless child abuse resulting in death, conspiracy to tamper with evidence, and seven counts of tampering with evidence. Jessica Kelley, convicted of child abuse resulting in death, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, conspiracy to commit tampering, and three counts of tampering with evidence, was sentenced to 44 years. Fabian was reportedly released in 2019 to await his new trial.
The Legal Aftermath and Sentencing of the Suspects
The case of Victoria has stirred controversy and criticism of the family's actions and the response of law enforcement and other authorities.
Victoria's grandparents, who are Michelle's parents, have decided to sue the state with the claim that not enough was done to protect Victoria after multiple calls to Child Protective Services (CPS). This lawsuit has generated mixed responses from the public. While some empathize with the grandparents, others feel that they, too, could have done more to safeguard Victoria.
Stephanie Soo mentions that there's a belief among netizens that authorities failed to adequately protect Victoria despite being called consistently, leading to further doubt about the official narratives of the case.
Netizens speculate that the Albuquerque Police Department may have been more interested in resolving Victoria's case quickly rather than thoroughly, as evidenced by their decision to accept Michelle's confession. This suspicion is compounded by the fact that there was no [restricted term] found in Victoria's system, contradicting the assertion that she had been force-fed the drug, which casts doubt on the reliability of the confessions made.
Involvement and Actions of Victoria's Family and Authorities
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