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#409: I Received A Message From A Serial Killer’s Wife Asking For Help…

By Stephanie Soo & Ramble

In this episode, the disturbing story of a serial killer named Karim and his estranged wife Lubna is explored. Karim's outward charm masked a sense of entitlement and a controlling nature that manifested in abusive behavior toward his wife after their son Zayn's birth. Despite Lubna's attempts to escape the violence, Karim manipulated Egypt's legal system to prevent her from gaining custody of Zayn.

After Karim's imprisonment, Lubna faced obstacles in regaining access to her son, who was taken by Karim's relatives under false pretenses. The episode details Lubna's ongoing fight to be reunited with Zayn, with her legal efforts hampered after fleeing Karim's abuse. As a British citizen seeking her child in Egypt or the U.S., Lubna's struggle to uncover Zayn's welfare highlights the complex circumstances surrounding spousal abuse and custody battles.

#409: I Received A Message From A Serial Killer’s Wife Asking For Help…

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#409: I Received A Message From A Serial Killer’s Wife Asking For Help…

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Profile of the serial killer Karim

Karim's background and online presence

Karim came from a financially privileged family yet exhibited a sense of entitlement and superiority, according to the podcast. Stephanie Soo notes his odd TikTok videos teaching English slang, involving his son Zane, drew suspicion after Karim's crimes emerged.

Karim's troubling behavior

The podcast describes Karim's volatile temper at work and bizarre habit of "apologizing" to coworkers with roses, suggesting manipulation and a need for control. Despite an outward generosity, his eagerness to help hinted at more sinister motives to dominate others.

Lubna's abusive marriage to Karim

Karim's transformation from charming to abusive

Initially, Karim presented as charming, but after their son Zayn's birth, he became jealous and violent whenever Lubna prioritized Zayn's needs. Discovering Karim's infidelity led to further beatings when Lubna confronted him.

Lubna's attempts to escape the abuse

Lubna tried leaving multiple times, but Karim threatened and assaulted her each time. Taking advantage of Egypt's laws, he falsely accused her of adultery to prevent her gaining custody of Zayn. Lubna ultimately had to flee for safety, leaving Zayn behind.

Karim kidnapping their son Zayn and Lubna's fight

In a deceitful act, Karim asked for a playdate with Zayn but refused to return him. Filing for divorce, he falsely claimed Lubna was dead, leading his mother to take Zayn. Lubna has since been blocked from contact despite having legal custody.

For seven months after Karim's imprisonment, Lubna knows nothing about Zayn's welfare, facing obstacles despite her legal efforts. A British citizen, she continues searching through all channels for her son, either in Egypt or Michigan.

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  • You can recognize and address entitlement in your family by having open discussions about privilege and responsibilities, ensuring that everyone, regardless of their background, understands the value of hard work and empathy towards others. For example, organize regular family meetings where you discuss the importance of gratitude and community service, and set up volunteer activities that everyone can participate in together.
  • Enhance your awareness of digital footprints by reviewing and discussing with your family how online content can be perceived. Take time each month to sit with family members and go through the content you've all posted on social media, discussing the potential impacts and misunderstandings that could arise from each post. This can help prevent the spread of content that might be misinterpreted or that doesn't align with your intended personal or family image.
  • Develop a personal safety plan if you're in a difficult relationship by identifying trusted friends or family members you can reach out to, and familiarize yourself with local resources such as shelters and legal aid. Keep a small bag with essentials and important documents hidden but accessible in case you need to leave quickly. Additionally, document any incidents of abuse or threats in a secure place, which can be used as evidence if needed.

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Profile of the serial killer Karim

Karim's case is a complex one, with his upscale background and disturbing behavior patterns intersecting to create a chilling portrait of a man who ultimately turned to murder.

Karim's background and online presence

Karim grew up in a financially secure family in Egypt and the US, but held a sense of superiority and entitlement

Karim was born into a financially well-off family, spending parts of his life in Egypt and the United States. He was known to exhibit a sense of superiority and entitlement, largely due to the financial security provided by his parents. Karim's success was often attributed to his father's wealth, a fact well-understood by those around him. Despite his outward portrayal, Karim reportedly had no genuine affection for his father, seeing him merely as a financial resource to fulfill his desires, such as acquiring the latest iPhone, even into his late thirties.

Karim's TikTok account under the name "HookedOnPhonics" became a platform for him to teach English to non-native speakers. His content included pronouncing challenging words like "exquisite" and "ecstatic" and suggesting alternate phrasing like "I apologize" instead of "I'm sorry." Karim also involved his son Zane, showing how to blend English words in common speech. Stephanie Soo highlighted the peculiarity of Karim's videos, such as his use of odd terms and unsettling inflections. Although his account reached 660,000 followers, the content is now viewed with suspicion, with the old videos gaining a more troubling aspect in light of his later criminal activities.

Karim's troubling behavior and potential warning signs

Karim was known to have a volatile temper, often lashing out at coworkers over minor issues

Karim's temper was a source of discomfort at his workplace. Sources say he would have sudden outbursts over seemingly trivial matters. Those working with him walked on eggshells, fearing what might trigger his anger on any given day.

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- Reflect on your own background and privileges to foster empathy and self-awareness by writing down aspects of your life that may have given you an advantage over others, and consider how these can be used responsibly.

  • Understanding where you come from and the privileges you may have can help you interact with others more empathetically. For example, if you realize you've had access to better education, use this awareness to assist others without being condescending.
  • Create a personal 'temper journal' to track moments of anger and identify triggers, then develop calming techniques tailored to those situations.
  • Keeping a journal can help you notice patterns in your behavior and address them proactively. For instance, if you find that hunger often precedes your anger, you might plan to have healthy snacks available to mitigate irritability.
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Lubna's abusive marriage to Karim

Lubna's marriage to Karim, which began with charm and manners, deteriorated into a harrowing tale of abuse and control after the birth of their son, Zayn.

Karim's transformation from a seemingly normal partner to an abusive and controlling husband

Initially, Kareem was viewed as normal and polite, but this facade crumbled shortly after the couple welcomed their son.

In the early years of their marriage, Karim appeared charming and well-mannered, but things took a turn after the birth of their son, Zayn

The arrival of Zayn ignited a change in Karim's behavior. He became envious of the attention Lubna gave their son, interpreting her maternal duties as neglect of his needs.

Karim became jealous and aggressive whenever Lubna prioritized their son's needs over his own, often resulting in violent outbursts

Whenever he felt that Zayn's requirements were being considered over his, Karim's demeanor would shift dramatically. He would erupt into fits of aggression that left Lubna at the receiving end of his violent outbursts.

Lubna discovered Karim's infidelity and confronted him, but he would respond by physically assaulting her

The discovery of videos showcasing Karim's infidelity added another layer of turmoil. Confrontation led to further violence where Karim resorted to beatings and strangulation, often rendering Lubna unconscious.

Lubna's attempts to escape the abusive relationship and Karim's efforts to prevent it

Lubna's harrowing experience of abuse lasted an unimaginable six years as she repeatedly tried to leave the increasingly dangerous situation.

Lubna tried to leave Karim multiple times, but he would threaten and assault her, making it difficult for her to escape

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  • You can recognize early warning signs of unhealthy behavior by journaling your relationship experiences, noting any shifts in behavior and your feelings about them. This helps you stay aware of changes that could indicate deeper issues. For example, if a partner who was once attentive becomes unexpectedly distant or critical, writing it down can help you track these changes over time and assess their significance.
  • Develop a personal safety plan that includes a list of trusted contacts, safe places, and essential documents, which can be crucial if you need to leave a dangerous situation quickly. For instance, you might have a friend who agrees to be an emergency contact or a memorized list of local shelters and their phone numbers.
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Karim kidnapping their son Zayn and Lubna's fight to get him back

The article delves into a distressing incident involving Karim's kidnapping of his son Zayn and Lubna's relentless struggle to regain custody.

Karim's deception and Lubna's desperate search for her son

Lubna’s story is one of distress and perseverance as she searches for her son, Zayn, who was kidnapped by Karim, his own father, three years ago. In a deceitful act, Karim asked Lubna for a playdate with Zayn, claiming he just wanted to take him to dinner because he missed him. Lubna agreed but that was the last time she saw her son.

Afterward, to block Lubna’s attempts to reclaim Zayn, Karim filed for divorce and wrongfully accused her of adultery, which is a serious allegation in Egypt. This forced Lubna to flee Egypt due to threats against her life. Meanwhile, Karim misled the police by saying Lubna was dead, which led his mother to take custody of Zayn.

Although Lubna has not seen her son since the playdate and has been on a relentless search, her efforts have been met with obstacles. She has tried contacting Karim’s mother, who is with Zayn, but her attempts have been futile as she is barred from communication.

Lubna is legally entitled to have her son with her. She has full custody rights, including educational rights, and has filed all necessary police and court paperwork. Despite this legal standing, Lubna continues to face challenges in locating Karim's mother and thus, her son Zayn.

The emotional toll on Lubna has been considerable. She has not seen or heard from her son for seven months following Karim's imprisonment on unrelated charges. During this time, she continuously sends messages to her son and his grandmother, which shows as read, but receives no response. Lubna endures the angst of not knowing her son's well-being, his interests, or even his academic status.

Legally, Lubna has made every attempt to utilize her resources, including hiring attorneys, in her quest to restore her maternal rights and reunite with her son. She operates under the distressing reality that her son ...

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  • You can raise awareness about parental abduction by starting a blog to share stories and resources, helping others to recognize the signs and know what steps to take if they find themselves in a similar situation. By creating content that educates and informs, you provide a platform for discussion and support, potentially reaching out to those who might be going through the ordeal of parental abduction.
  • Consider volunteering with organizations that support missing children and their families, offering your time and effort to assist in search efforts, awareness campaigns, or support services. This hands-on approach allows you to contribute directly to the cause, learn more about the issue, and help affected families on a personal level.
  • Create a personal safety plan for your family that incl ...

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