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#405: Man From Viral Tiktok Looks Exactly Like Missing Husband- Did He Fake His Own Death For Another Girl

By Stephanie Soo & Ramble

In this episode of Rotten Mango, a bizarre TikTok video kickstarts an investigation into a man's suspicious disappearance while kayaking. Details emerge about the man's meticulous planning and involvement with a woman in Uzbekistan, leading him to confess to faking his death to start a new life abroad, despite having a wife and children.

The episode takes a closer look at the "passport bros" phenomenon - men seeking partners in foreign countries. While some argue these relationships reflect cherished family values, critics raise concerns about underlying misogynistic attitudes and the harm caused to those left behind. The case highlights how the digital age enables these subcultures and their divisive viewpoints.

#405: Man From Viral Tiktok Looks Exactly Like Missing Husband- Did He Fake His Own Death For Another Girl

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#405: Man From Viral Tiktok Looks Exactly Like Missing Husband- Did He Fake His Own Death For Another Girl

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The Mysterious TikTok Video

A TikTok video shows a man on a bike eerily pondering moving to Uzbekistan to meet a woman, despite being married. Two months later, a man matching his description goes missing in a suspicious kayaking incident, sparking speculation about a connection to the video.

The Investigation into Ryan's Disappearance

When Ryan's kayak is found overturned and his body goes missing after a late-night trip, authorities launch an extensive search. Despite using specialized teams and technology, Ryan's body is never recovered.

Investigations then reveal Ryan's passport was recently used to enter Canada. Examining his computer, authorities discover Ryan had been meticulously planning his disappearance for months, obtaining a new passport, moving money, and communicating with someone in Uzbekistan.

Ryan's Confession and the Woman in Uzbekistan

Confronted with the evidence, Ryan confesses to faking his drowning to start a new life with a woman in Uzbekistan, despite being married with children, according to Stephanie Soo. Authorities cannot compel Ryan's return, as Uzbekistan lacks an extradition treaty with the U.S.

Ryan's wife and children are left dealing with the emotional trauma caused by his deception of making them believe he had died tragically.

The "Passport Bros" Phenomenon

The case sheds light on the divisive "passport bros" subculture of men seeking partners abroad. Some defend this, claiming foreign women possess preferred family values, while critics argue it reflects misogynistic attitudes and harms those left behind.

Within this community, concerning viewpoints emerge, including advice to prevent foreign wives from adopting "feminist ideas" and crude assumptions about partners' motivations. Some comments even appear to validate faking one's death to pursue this lifestyle.

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  • The TikTok video showed a man contemplating moving to Uzbekistan to meet a woman, despite being married. Later, a man resembling him went missing in a suspicious kayaking incident, leading to speculation about a potential link between the video and his disappearance.
  • The "passport bros" subculture consists of men who seek romantic partners from other countries, often believing that these women hold more traditional values. Some supporters argue that foreign women are more family-oriented, while critics view this subculture as promoting outdated and potentially harmful gender dynamics. Within this community, there are controversial discussions about discouraging foreign partners from embracing feminist ideas and even extreme suggestions like faking one's death to pursue relationships abroad.
  • Uzbekistan's lack of an extradition treaty with the U.S. means that the two countries do not have a formal agreement in place to hand over individuals accused of crimes from one country to the other. This absence of a treaty can complicate legal proceedings when a person is located in one country but is wanted for prosecution in the other, as extradition processes typically rely on such agreements for cooperation between nations.

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#405: Man From Viral Tiktok Looks Exactly Like Missing Husband- Did He Fake His Own Death For Another Girl

The mysterious TikTok video and its potential connection to Ryan's case

A TikTok video has sparked public intrigue with its potential, yet unofficial, link to a missing person's case involving a man named Ryan.

A TikTok video emerges featuring a man seeking advice from a stranger about a major life decision

The video gaining attention shows a man on a bike seeking advice from a stranger.

The video shows a man on a bike asking a stranger whether he should move to Uzbekistan to meet a woman, despite being married

In the video, the man expresses his contemplation about a significant change to his life. He ponders whether to move to Uzbekistan to meet a woman, mentioning that he is currently married and feels that American women are "too familiar."

The man in the video exhibits concerning behavior, such as calmly discussing leaving his family and job behind

Despite discussing major life changes, the man appears eerily calm. He smiles as he talks about potentially leaving his familiar life, his family, and his job in the search for contentment in a new companionship.

Two months after the TikTok video is filmed, a man with a similar appearance goes missing in a suspicious kayaking incident

Two months after the video was filmed, there is a report of a man with a strong resemblance to the person in the TikTok video going missing under suspicious circumstances during a kayaking trip. The details include his overturned kayak being found in the deepest part of a lake, and his car and wallet located nearby.

Authorities initially dismiss the TikTok video as unrelated to the missing person case

Authorities express doubt regarding any connection between the TikTok video and Ryan's missing person's case.

The sheriff's office states they have confirmed the man i ...

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Counterarguments

  • The resemblance between the man in the TikTok video and the missing person could be coincidental, and without concrete evidence, it may be inappropriate to draw connections that could mislead the investigation or the public.
  • The calm demeanor of the man in the video discussing major life changes could be a result of many factors, including his personality, and does not necessarily indicate anything suspicious or relevant to the missing person's case.
  • The sheriff's office's dismissal of the TikTok video could be based on solid investigative work and evidence not disclosed to the public, which might validate their stance.
  • The confirmation by the sheriff's office that the man in the TikTok video is not the missing person could be based on reliable identification methods or credible witnesses, which would undermine speculation based on visual resemblance alone.
  • The differences in family circumstances between Ryan and the man in the ...

Actionables

  • You can enhance your critical thinking skills by practicing analyzing online content for credibility. Start by watching a variety of videos on platforms like TikTok and write down initial impressions. Then, research the background information, cross-reference facts, and note any discrepancies or confirmations you find. This exercise will help you discern fact from fiction in digital narratives.
  • Develop your understanding of human behavior by journaling your reactions to unusual scenarios you encounter online. When you come across a story like the one mentioned, jot down your emotional response, what you believe about the situation, and why. Over time, review your entries to see if your perceptions have changed with new information, helping you understand your biases and how they evolve.
  • Improve your online discussion etiquette by engaging in conversations about controversial top ...

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The investigation into Ryan's disappearance and presumed death

When Ryan's late-night kayaking trip leads to his mysterious disappearance, authorities launch an extensive search but soon uncover evidence that suggests a staged vanishing act.

Authorities launch an extensive search and recovery operation when Ryan is reported missing after a late-night kayaking trip

Ryan's wife reports him missing after he fails to return from a kayaking excursion on Green Lake. Authorities locate Ryan's car, complete with a trailer, near the lake, and find his kayak capsized in the water. The search for Ryan involves the specialized search and rescue team Bruce's Legacy, which employs sonar technology in a lake reaching depths of 220 feet. Despite their advanced equipment, scanning the deep lake from a boat, they cannot find Ryan's body. Cadaver dogs, known for their ability to detect human remains at significant depths, also join the search but to no avail. After nine intense 12-hour search days, Keith from Bruce's Legacy expresses doubt to Sheriff Pidal about Ryan's body being in the lake.

The search includes specialized teams, sonar technology, and cadaver dogs, but Ryan's body is never found

Despite using sophisticated sonar technology and cadaver dogs to scan the deep waters where Ryan's kayak was discovered, and with the dedicated efforts of the search teams over an exhaustive period, Ryan's body remains undiscovered.

After weeks of searching, investigators uncover evidence suggesting Ryan may have staged his own disappearance

In the wake of lingering uncertainty, new information emerges that casts doubt on the idea that Ryan has died.

Ryan's passport is found to have recently been used to enter Canada, raising suspicions

Sheriff Pidal discovers that Ryan Borgwart's passport had been used to enter Canada one day following his reported disappearance. This conflicts with the found passport at his residence, leading to the realization that Ryan obtained a replacement claiming the original was lost.

Data recovered from Ryan's computer indicates he had been planning his disappearance for months

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  • You can enhance your personal security by regularly reviewing and updating your privacy settings on social media and other online platforms to prevent sharing location and travel plans inadvertently. This helps to avoid leaving digital traces that could be used to track your movements, similar to how Ryan's computer data provided clues to his plans. For example, you might set your social media profiles to private, disable location services, and be mindful of what you post online, especially regarding travel or future intentions.
  • Develop a habit of checking your financial statements and credit reports periodically to spot any unauthorized or unusual activities. This is akin to how Ryan moved money and took out a life insurance policy without raising immediate suspicion. By keeping a close eye on your accounts, you can quickly identify and address any discrepancies, such as unfamiliar transactions or changes in account details, which could indicate identity theft or fraud.
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Ryan's potential faking of his own death and involvement with a woman in Uzbekistan

Authorities confront Ryan with evidence of his meticulously planned fake death as more details emerge about his connection with a woman in Uzbekistan.

Authorities confront Ryan with the evidence and he confesses to meticulously planning his fake drowning

Police reveal during a press conference that Ryan is likely in Eastern Europe, sparking discussions online about discrepancies in pinpointing his location. They found evidence on Ryan's computer of communication with a woman from Uzbekistan, though it's unclear if she directed him to meet in another country. Stephanie Soo covers the case of the missing kayaker, drawing attention to it following a viral TikTok post.

Ryan sends a proof of life video stating, "It's Ryan Borgwart. Today is November 11th... I am safe, secure. No problem," confirming suspicions that he did not drown in the lake. The sheriff discloses that Ryan chose Wisconsin's deepest lake, Green Lake, as the site for his ruse, believing it would aid in his plan.

Ryan had calculated that authorities would only search for about two weeks before declaring him dead, allowing his family to claim life insurance. Authorities contacted a Russian-speaking woman through Ryan's laptop, leading them to discover his survival. Ryan confesses to meticulous planning, revealing he took out a life insurance policy and obtained a new passport with plans to start anew in Eastern Europe.

Ryan claims he staged his death to start a new life with the woman in Uzbekistan, despite being married with children

Despite being married with children, Ryan admits to staging his death to begin a different life with the woman in Uzbekistan. Authorities find out he executed his disappearance plan with great detail, including capsizing his kayak and using various modes of transportation to leave the country.

Authorities are unable to force Ryan to return to the US, as Uzbekistan does not have an extradition treaty

It's acknowledged there is no extradition treaty between the US and Uzbekistan, meaning authorities cannot compel Ryan to return. If he is indeed in Uzbekistan, Ryan is beyond the reach of U.S. law e ...

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  • Green Lake in Wisconsin is the second deepest natural inland lake in the state, measuring 239 feet deep at its greatest depth. It is located in Green Lake County, Wisconsin, with the city of Green Lake situated on its north side. The lake played a significant role in the case mentioned, where Ryan staged his fake drowning to deceive authorities.
  • An extradition treaty is a formal agreement between two countries that outlines the process of one country handing over individuals accused or convicted of crimes to the other country for prosecution or punishment. In this case, the absence of an extradition treaty between the US and ...

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The broader phenomenon of "passport bros" and their motivations

Stephanie Soo and her co-host delve into the subculture of "passport bros," the phenomenon involving men who travel overseas in search of romantic partners, and the various opinions surrounding their motivations and actions.

Some online commenters defend Ryan's actions, suggesting American women are too difficult to date

Several passport bros defend their search for partners abroad. One such individual insists that women in other countries are more open-minded, rebutting criticism that men who date internationally do so because they can't meet the standards of women in the U.S., which he calls an elitist standpoint. He longs for a beautiful, loyal, and family-oriented partner, eyeing Brazil, Colombia, and South Korea as prime locations. These passport bros are concerned about their impact on local economies, advising against spending too much on local women, as it could skew the financial environment.

Some netizens dislike the negative connotations attached to the term "passport bros," arguing they are simply appreciated more in other countries. They express frustrations with the U.S. legal system, which they perceive as biased against men, driving them to seek appreciation and autonomy elsewhere. Despite concerns about exploitation, Soo notes that some argue men benefit from these international relationships, even if women might be using them for a green card.

Certain passport bros believe that women in other nations possess traditional values and living situations that make them more suitable as family-oriented partners. Yet no information was provided on other commenters condemning behavior as selfish and harmful to the family.

The case highlights the complex dynamics and troubling attitudes within the "passport bro" community

The discussion transitions to the complex and often troubling community dynamics. One commenter worries his Filipino wife might adopt "woke politicized feminist ideas" that affected his past Western girlfriends. Others advise ensuring these women see Western feminist attitudes as unattractive to prevent influence once they come to the West, some even suggesting impregnation upon arrival to keep the focus on family.

The comments within this community range from lighthearted jokes to outright misogynistic remarks. One individual communicates a disparaging attitude towards American women, boasting about leaving for "greener pastures overseas." Another brags about not having to listen to his non-English-speaking partner, while cynically others predict she'll leave him once she gets a green card. Criticism of American women's alleged preferences for wealth and looks is prevalent, as is the labeling of American culture as fostering selfishness in women.

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  • "Passport bros" are men who travel to other countries seeking romantic partners, often believing that women in these locations are more traditional, family-oriented, or appreciative compared to women in their home country. Some passport bros express frustrations with dating norms or legal systems in their own country, leading them to seek relationships abroad. The motivations behind being a passport bro can vary, including desires for companionship, cultural experiences, or perceptions of better relationship dynamics outside their home country. The phenomenon of passport bros can involve complex dynamics, including discussions around cultural differences, gender roles, and ethical considerations.
  • The "passport bro" community consists of men who travel abroad seeking romantic partners, often due to perceived differences in cultural values and attitudes towards relationships. Within this community, there are varying opinions on the motivations behind seeking partners overseas, with some defending their actions as a response to perceived challenges in dating within their home country. Discussions within this community can range from lighthearted banter to more troubling attitudes, including misogynistic remarks and criticisms of Western feminist ideals. The community's dynamics reflect a complex interplay of personal experiences, societal norms, and perceptions of gender roles in different cultures.
  • Men seeking partners abroad often cite reasons like cultural differences, perceived traditional values, and a desire for a more family-oriented partner. Some defend their actions by suggesting that women in other countries are more appreciative and less influenced by what they see as negative aspects of Western culture. However, critics raise concerns about potential exploitation, ...

Counterarguments

  • Passport bros may be perpetuating stereotypes and engaging in a form of neo-colonialism by treating foreign women as commodities and exploiting economic disparities.
  • The idea that women from other countries are inherently more open-minded or family-oriented is a broad generalization that ignores the individuality and diversity of women's personalities and values across different cultures.
  • The concern about impacting local economies negatively could be seen as paternalistic, suggesting that local women cannot make their own financial decisions or that their economies are easily manipulated by foreigners.
  • The dislike of the term "passport bros" may not address the underlying behaviors and attitudes that have led to the negative connotations associated with the label.
  • The belief that international relationships are beneficial to men even if women are using them for a green card overlooks the potential for exploitation and power imbalances in these relationships.
  • The community's advice to ensure foreign women see Western feminist attitudes as unattractive could be seen as an attempt to control women's beliefs and limit their autonomy.
  • The disparaging attitudes towards American women and the celebration of leaving for "greener pastures" can be seen as disrespectful and dismissive of the legitimate choices and preferences of American women.
  • The criticism of ...

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