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#359: 20 Police Officers Listened On The Phone As He Sliced Her Into 365 Pieces To Make Human Flesh Pills

By Stephanie Soo & Ramble

In this episode of the Rotten Mango podcast, the details of a horrific crime are examined. The victim was dismembered into 365 pieces, suspected to be part of an underground trade for human flesh. The summary describes the gruesome evidence found at the crime scene and the meticulous process the perpetrator used.

It also highlights concerns about the police's seemingly indifferent and delayed response despite the victim's frantic emergency call. The public outcry over the authorities' actions resulted in reforms and demands for transparency. While the depravity of the crime shocks, the summary also raises questions about law enforcement accountability.

#359: 20 Police Officers Listened On The Phone As He Sliced Her Into 365 Pieces To Make Human Flesh Pills

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#359: 20 Police Officers Listened On The Phone As He Sliced Her Into 365 Pieces To Make Human Flesh Pills

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The Disturbing Crime Details

The victim's apartment revealed squalor and neglect, according to the police, with scattered personal items and graphic photos hinting at an unsettling environment. However, the true horror was the perpetrator's meticulous dismemberment: the victim's flesh was carefully stripped away into 365 uniform pieces in black bags, leaving only her face and hair intact. Sanger-Katz compares the body to slaughtered livestock, speculating the six-hour "deboning" may have begun while the victim was still alive.

Questionable Police Response

Despite the victim's clear distress signals during a multi-minute emergency call, police were dismissive and unprofessional, heard casually discussing a "domestic dispute". Their inaccurate initial claim that the call lasted only 15 seconds raised concerns about transparency. Though the victim conveyed her location near landmarks like a school, police failed to find her for 13 hours. Their delayed search, casual demeanor, and ultimately hanging up on the victim have faced intense public criticism.

Human Meat Trade Suspicions

The perpetrator's modest income yet substantial money transfers to China, combined with his mysterious wiping of call records, fueled theories of illicit involvement. A criminology professor noted the body's precise dismemberment—removing organs but preserving flesh—suggested intent beyond covering up a crime. Allegations arose of ties to an underground "red market" trade that values flesh as a nutrient source or supplement. The family believes the victim may have been killed specifically for her meat.

Citing the cruel, "inhumane" nature of the crime, the judge issued a death sentence, later commuted to life. However, public fury erupted over the police's shifting timeline, indifference toward the emergency, and slow response time—contrasted with delivery service efficiency. Widespread mistrust of authorities led to reforms like a new dispatch system aimed at improving urgency and competence. Still, the victim's family remains unsatisfied, demanding full call audio release despite police reluctance to cause further trauma.

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  • The judge's decision to commute the death sentence to life may have been influenced by factors such as the perpetrator's mental health, potential mitigating circumstances presented during the trial, or legal considerations regarding the severity of the crime. Additionally, the judge might have taken into account any plea deals, cooperation with authorities, or remorse shown by the perpetrator during the legal proceedings. Public opinion, the possibility of rehabilitation, or the lack of a unanimous jury decision for the death penalty could also have played a role in the judge's decision.
  • The police's shifting timeline and response issues in this case pertain to discrepancies in the information provided by law enforcement regarding the duration of the emergency call and the subsequent delay in locating the victim. This inconsistency raised concerns about the transparency and accuracy of the police's account of events. The public criticism stemmed from the perceived dismissive and unprofessional behavior of the police during the emergency call, as well as their delayed search efforts despite the victim's distress signals.

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The disturbing details of the crime, including the condition of the victim's apartment and the extent of the dismemberment

The crime scene and the manner in which the crime was executed reveal unsettling details. Here we delve into the condition of the victim's apartment and the brutal extent to which the body was dismembered.

The victim's apartment was in a state of squalor and disrepair

Upon entering the apartment, visitors are immediately struck by darkness and the smell. The small kitchen to the left houses a refrigerator and sink next to kitchen knives. To the right is the bathroom door, emanating a stench of stale urine.

Further in lies the bedroom, even grimier with dirty bedding, open suitcases full of soiled clothing, and disturbing photographs of women scattered everywhere. The dingy state of the apartment continues with urine-stained exterior walls, molding window edges, and an overall foul odor reminiscent of wet, mildewed towels. Inside, feminine hygiene products are strewn about, and dozens of graphic photos of women are laid out amidst crumpled, dirty tissues.

Even without a woman living there, the mess suggests a shocking disregard for cleanliness. The apartment's limited furniture is coated in a greasy film and everything speaks to a neglected, unsettling environment.

The perpetrator's brutal dismemberment of the ifctim's body

Deboning, rather than dismembering, serves as a disturbing marker of the perpetrator's actions. He meticulously slices all the flesh off the victim's body in uniform, thin pieces. The scene is grisly with over 365 pieces of flesh portioned out into black plastic bags, and only the victim's face and hair left intact. Bel ...

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The disturbing details of the crime, including the condition of the victim's apartment and the extent of the dismemberment

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  • Deboning the victim's body involves meticulously removing the flesh from the bones in a methodical and precise manner. This process is often seen in cases of extreme violence or brutality, where the perpetrator takes significant time and effort to dismember the body. It is a disturbing and gruesome act that goes beyond typical methods of dismemberment, leaving only the bones and the victim's face and hair intact.
  • Oh Won-Chun is the name of the perpetrator involved in the crime described in the ...

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The police's handling of the emergency call and the investigation, including their response time and questionable actions

The handling of an emergency call by the police has been under scrutiny due to their response time and the questionable actions taken during and after a distressing incident involving a victim, Kimmy.

The police were slow to respond to the emergency call and failed to locate the victim

Despite Kimmy providing detailed information about her surroundings, the police failed to act on it promptly. While she was able to convey landmarks near her location, the police inaccurately reported the call's duration as only 15 seconds when it was, in fact, much longer, leading to a lack of urgent response. Kimmy was trapped in a house that was closely situated to recognizable locations, such as an elementary school and playground, and only a short distance from the police station. Yet, the victim wasn't located at the time, and the police took 13 hours to catch the assailant after dispatching officers. The search, deemed a top priority, didn't involve waking up any residents to inquire about any disturbances. The police later revealed the true length of the call, correcting their previous statement from 15 seconds to one minute and 20 seconds, and eventually admitting it was actually over 7 minutes long.

The police initially claimed the call was only 15 seconds long, when it was actually over 7 minutes

The police's report on the emergency call's duration misled the public, initially claiming it lasted a mere 15 seconds and later admitting the call was extensive at 7 minutes and 36 seconds until they hung up. Their explanations for the discrepancies raised questions about why they did not provide accurate information from the outset and whether they understood the call's severity.

The then police's dismissal and unprofessional attitude during the emergency call

Throughout the call, the police's demeanor was perceived as dismissive and unprofessional. Even as Kimmy screamed for her life, the police officers were heard discussing the incident casually as if it were a domestic dispute. Her relayed information appeared not to have been acted upon with urgency. Officers were unsure about her location throughout the call, even when auditory cues, like attempts to breach the room Kimmy had locked herself in, indicated impending danger. The casual nature of their conversation suggested a lack of proper recognition for the emergency at hand.

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  • The emergency call involved a victim named Kimmy who provided detailed information about her location and situation to the police. Despite her efforts, the police inaccurately reported the call's duration, leading to delays in their response. The call lasted over 7 minutes, during which Kimmy pleaded for help as the police's response was perceived as dismissive and unprofessional. The police eventually disconnected the call, sparking criticism for their handling of the distressing situation.
  • During the emergency call, the police were slow to respond despite the victim providing detailed location information. The police inaccurately reported the call's duration as only 15 seconds when it was actually over 7 minutes. Officer ...

Counterarguments

  • The reported slow response time may have been due to a high volume of calls or other emergencies happening simultaneously, which can strain resources and delay response times.
  • The initial misreporting of the call's duration could have been a result of human error or miscommunication rather than an intentional deception.
  • The 13-hour delay in catching the assailant might have been due to the complexity of the investigation, the need to gather sufficient evidence, or challenges in tracking the suspect.
  • Not waking up residents during the search could have been a strategic decision to avoid causing panic or to preserve the integrity of the investigation.
  • The correction of the call's duration from 15 seconds to over 7 minutes could indicate a willingness to rectify mistakes once they were identified.
  • The perceived dismissive and unprofessional demeanor of the police during the call could be attributed to the stress of the job or a misinterpretation of the tone used by the officers.
  • Discussing the incident casually might be a coping mechanism for officers dealing with high-stress situations regularly, though it may come across as insensitive.
  • Uncertainty about the victim's location could be due to limitations in the information provided or difficulties in interpreting the landmarks mentioned by the victim.
  • The decision to hang up on the victim may have followed a protocol that dictates disconnection under certain circumstances, which might not be apparent to the public.
  • The criticism of the police's apparent indifference could overlo ...

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Theories about the perpetrator's possible involvement in an illegal human meat spitfire, including his financial situation and background

Speculation arises around the possibility of the perpetrator's involvement in the illegal human meat trade, triggered by his financial activities and the nature of his crime.

The perpetrator's financial situation and activities raised suspicions

The financial patterns of the perpetrator have raised a red flag. Despite earning a modest $1,300 a month through manual labor, he was able to amass $5,000 in savings. Over four and a half years, he sent a total of over $50,000 to his family in China from this relatively low income. Annually, he sent $8,900 to China, a significant figure considering his potential maximum yearly earnings of $17,000. Yet, he still had a surplus of $6,300 in his bank account after these remittances. Further arousing suspicion, the perpetrator deleted all of his phone's communication records from the recent two months, with no clear explanation provided to the judge as to why he engaged in this selective purge of information.

The details of the victim's dismemberment suggested a motive beyond sexual assault

The malice behind the perpetrator's actions came into consideration during the trial, focusing on the precise manner in which the victim's body was mutilated. Rather than the disposal of the body being a hurried affair characteristic of a first-time offender, the professor of criminology observed that the extended six-hour mutilation, meticulous uniform cuts, and careful division into plastic bags were indicative of a purpose beyond panic or inexperience.

Disturbingly, the victim's body was found sliced into pieces—a process that preserved the organs but removed flesh from almost all parts of the body, except for the face and calves. Netizens and a butcher alluded to the technique and skill involved, suggesting it wasn't the work of an amateur. A segment of the 'red market' was m ...

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Theories about the perpetrator's possible involvement in an illegal human meat spitfire, including his financial situation and background

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  • The "red market" typically refers to illegal markets involving human body parts or tissues, including organs, blood, and sometimes flesh. These markets operate outside legal and ethical boundaries, often exploiting vulnerable individuals for profit. The term highlights the dark and illicit nature of these activities, which can involve trafficking, selling, or using human body parts for various purposes.
  • Netizens are individuals who actively engage in online communities or the internet, contributing to its development and participating in discussions and activities. The term originated in the mid-1990s to describe those who are citizens of the internet, showing interest in improving the online space and advocating for issues like net neutrality and free speech. Netizens are distinguished from regular internet users by their active involvement in shaping the internet as a social and intellectual resource.
  • Meticulous uniform cuts in this context indicate that the dismemberment of the victim's body was done with precise and consistent incisions, suggesting a high level of skill and attention to detail in the process. The uniformity of the cuts implies a deliberate and methodical approach to the dismemberment, rather than a haphazard or rushed act. This meticulous cutting technique is often associated with expertise or experience in handling such tasks, as it requires a steady hand and knowledge of anatomy. The uniformity of the cuts may also indicate a specific purpose or method behind the dismemberment, beyond mere destruction of evidence.
  • The phrase "preparation into equally sized meat portions" suggests that the victim's body was methodically cut into pieces of uniform size, indicating a deliberate and precise approach to the dismemberment process. This meticulous division into consiste ...

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  • The perpetrator's financial situation could be explained by frugal living, financial assistance from other sources, or legitimate side jobs that were not reported or considered.
  • Large remittances to family in another country could be culturally normative and not necessarily indicative of illicit activities.
  • Deleting phone records could be a sign of privacy concerns or fear of misinterpretation, rather than an attempt to hide criminal activity.
  • The meticulous dismemberment could be a sign of a psychological disorder or compulsion rather than involvement in an illegal trade.
  • The skill in dismemberment could have been learned from accessible sources such as the internet or books, rather than from participation in a 'red market.'
  • The preservation of organs and removal of flesh could be coincidental or related to the perpetrator's mental state, rather than preparation for sale.
  • The belief of the victim's family, whil ...

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The legal proceedings, including the court's verdict and sentencing, as well as the public's reactions

The court's investigation and judgment, as well as the public's response to the legal handling and police conduct in a horrific crime case, have garnered widespread attention and controversy.

The court's reasoning for the we dict and sentencing

The court scrutinized the gruesome details of the crime and determined the perpetrator's motive was likely related to the illegal human meat trade rather than sexual assault. The careful carving and regularity of the victim's body parts suggested a motive beyond murder. Citing the extreme cruelty and inhumanity of the crime, the judge found it necessary to hand down the death sentence, which was later commuted to life imprisonment due to the absence of remorse shown by the defendant.

The public's reactions and criticisms of the police's handling of the case

The public's fury was triggered by various aspects of police behavior throughout the case. The police admitted to lying about parts of the investigation, leading to a public outcry and demands for answers. Netizens denounced the police, who initially labeled the incident a domestic dispute, which may have affected the urgency of their response.

The comparison of the police's response time to that of food delivery services, and one detective's assertion that a 13-hour response was "pretty fast," have caused widespread disbelief and anger, particularly considering the victim was alive during the emergency call.

Following the emergency call's public criticism, reforms were made to the emergency response system, including the creation of a central dispatch system to prevent inadequate ...

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  • The court determined the perpetrator's motive was linked to the illegal human meat trade rather than sexual assault, based on the details of the crime. The judge considered the extreme cruelty and inhumanity of the act in deciding to initially sentence the defendant to death. However, the sentence was later commuted to life imprisonment due to the defendant's lack of remorse.
  • The victim's family distrusted the police due to their perceived inaction and handling of the case. They believed the perpetrator's actions were linked to a larger illegal human meat trade operation, indicating a lack of faith in the police's ability to address the full scope of the crime. This suspicion may have stemmed from the family's dissatisfaction with the initial investigation and the police's response to the incident. The family's belief in a broader criminal network involved in the crime contributed to their lack of trust in the authorities.
  • The victim's brother viewed the police as complicit due to their perceived failure to act effectively in response to the emergency call reporting ...

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