In this episode of REAL ONES with Jon Bernthal, Richard Cabral and his cousin Paulie Navarro share their struggles with childhood trauma, substance abuse, and incarceration. Paulie opens up about growing up in a dysfunctional home with an abusive, addicted father and uncle, which fueled his own battles with drug addiction from a young age.
The two discuss how finding purpose through heritage, fatherhood, and the Homeboys organization provided the turning point to break free from negative cycles. Paulie credits traditional practices, being a role model for his daughter, and the mentorship at Homeboys Industry for his personal growth and motivation to transform his life. Their candid conversation offers insight into overcoming adversity and the power of community support during the journey of redemption.
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Paulie Navarro shares his childhood experiences of growing up in a dysfunctional home with substance abuse, abuse, and neglect from his father, a "full-blown drunk" who heavily used PCP and crack cocaine. Paulie's uncle was also an alcoholic drug addict. With his mother often absent for work, Paulie was vulnerable to abuse and traumatic incidents like witnessing his uncle's self-harm.
As a coping mechanism for his traumatic upbringing, Paulie began using marijuana, [restricted term], and [restricted term] as a pre-teen, escalating to intravenous drug use for prolonged highs. His addiction led to repeated cycles of incarceration, parole violations, and further criminal activity. Paulie's cousin Rich Cabral recounts providing him drugs and the environment encouraging aggression that enabled their substance abuse.
Paulie credits finding purpose and strength through traditional ceremonies and rituals of his Chicano and Aztec heritage. He says these spiritual practices helped process his trauma, gave him motivation to get sober, and allowed him to develop a healthier mindset, breaking free from negative patterns.
Having a daughter, Alexis, inspired Paulie to get sober and transform himself into the positive role model he never had. He's committed to providing her with a proper upbringing that allows her to enjoy a carefree childhood, unlike his own. Rich Cabral also expresses desire to be a present father for his son and break his own cycle of dysfunction.
Paulie found a supportive community, purpose, and mentorship at Homeboys Industry that was pivotal in his transformation. Working jobs like a barista helped discover new passions. He credits the guidance of the Homeboys staff, particularly a Jesuit priest, with giving him the tools and motivation to stay positive.
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Paulie Navarro shares his harrowing experiences of growing up in a dysfunctional home environment marked by substance abuse and a cycle of abuse and neglect, shedding light on the long-term effects of such an upbringing.
As a child, Paulie witnessed his father and uncles abuse substances such as crack, cocaine, PCP, and cheap alcohol like Cobra beer. He describes his father as a "full-blown drunk" who was heavily into PCP and crack cocaine, often treating him poorly compared to his siblings. The family environment was chaotic and unsafe, with substance abuse creating a neglectful and abusive atmosphere.
Paulie provides a glimpse into the severity of his family's dysfunction. His father was an abusive alcoholic, and his uncle was a "full-blown alcoholic drug addict." Even when his father was urgently in need of hospitalization, his mother refused to take him, forcing Paulie and his brother to carry their father to the car.
Paulie's mother was frequently absent due to work, leaving him alone and afraid of doing chores incorrectly for fear of physical punishment from his father. During one harrowing incident, Paulie's mother was in the room watching TV and did not intervene as his uncle engaged in self-harm in the kitchen.
From an early age, Pauli ...
Childhood trauma and family dysfunction
Paulie Navarro's life provides a stark illustration of how a traumatic childhood can lead to substance abuse and a cycle of incarceration. His story highlights the tragic results of using drugs as a coping mechanism and the challenges of breaking free from a life interwoven with drug use and crime.
By the tender age of 11 or 12, Paulie Navarro started smoking marijuana and not long after, escalated to [restricted term] and [restricted term]. To cope with his home life and the abuse he endured, Paulie began injecting drugs to maintain longer highs, though he kept this heavier usage hidden from friends and family by doing it alone.
Paulie Navarro's substance abuse originated in his pre-teen years and rapidly intensified. Seeking to escape his traumatic home life, Paulie initially turned to marijuana. As the effects of drugs like marijuana began to wane, he ascended to stronger substances such as [restricted term] and [restricted term] to help him medicate his escalating needs—eventually leading to intravenous drug use for prolonged highs.
He described a life dominated by substance abuse until he found sobriety five years ago, after a stint in rehab in San Pedro. The intensity of Paulie's early drug use, often occurring in isolation, presaged a difficult battle ahead.
Fundamentally, his substance abuse was tightly interwoven with his domestic turmoil. At about 12 years old, Paulie reached a critical juncture, defending himself from his father's drunken tirades with a kitchen knife—this incident illustrated the violence that plagued his upbringing and foreshadowed his inclination for extreme actions, often correlating with criminal behavior later on.
Paulie admits to having become a full-fledged drug addict experiencing continuous cycles of jail time and rehab stints. Despite receiving support, particularly from a cousin, he found achieving sobriety an immense challenge. On one occasion, after escorting his father to the hospital, Paulie and his brother pursued drugs as a form of solace, underscoring drug use as their coping mechanism.
Substance use was normalized in his familial interactions, such as smoking [restricted term] and drinking beer with his father, which he considered akin to bonding activities. His recurrent law-breaking behavior, exemplified by driving illegally while on parole, further entrenched his cycles of criminality and substance misuse.
While Rich Cabral, Paulie's cousin, recollected providing Paulie with PCP when he was about 15, Paulie himself recollected his father's use of "sherm." This familial inclination toward drug use was not only passively absorbed but was actively enforced, as demonstrated by Cabral's insistence on Paulie using [restricted term].
Reflecting on their environment, Cabral alluded to the streets' pressures requiring an ...
Substance abuse and incarceration
Paulie's story is one of transformation and healing. Through commitment to spiritual and cultural practices, he finds renewed purpose, strength, and a path to recovery.
Paulie speaks from his heart about the power of traditional ceremonies and rituals that have profoundly influenced his life and helped him overcome personal struggles.
Through his participation in ceremonies, Paulie intimates how these spiritual activities positively impact him. He senses a profound connection and guidance during these practices, feeling that the Spirit communicates with him, offering clarity and direction.
Paulie attests to the transformative power of his spiritual practices, emphasizing that they have not only made him stronger—mentally, physically, and spiritually—but also instrumental in his sobriety. Using traditional medicine as a daily "reset," he aligns these practices with his Chicano and Aztec heritage, making them an integral part of his identity and recovery journey.
Spiritual and personal growth
Paulie and Rich Cabral both discuss the profound impact fatherhood has had on them, and their desire to break the cycle of dysfunction and trauma for the sake of their children.
Paulie did not want his daughter Alexis to suffer the neglect and abuse he experienced during his childhood. His love for Alexis and the realization of his role as a father inspired him to make a significant change in his life. He became determined to get sober and transform himself into the positive role model he himself never had. Through his incarceration, he saw pictures of his daughter which motivated him to improve. Paulie highlighted the importance of not allowing his daughter to grow up too fast and to enjoy a carefree childhood, things he did not experience. He is dedicated to providing proper guidance and support, emphasizing the need to create an upbringing that Alexis could look back on with gratitude.
Paulie made a conscious decision to change his behavior while reflecting on his past during his time in prison. He recognized that to be a better person for his daughter, he needed to break away from his previous lifestyle. This realization was a powerful catalyst in Paulie's life, inspiring him to pursue sobriety and provide a stable environment for Alexis.
Paulie understands the importance of a proper guidance system and aims to instill positive values and encour ...
Fatherhood and breaking generational cycles
Paulie Navarro's life underwent a profound change due to his involvement with Homeboys Industry, the world's largest nonprofit organization dedicated to helping former gang members and previously incarcerated individuals.
Navarro found in Homeboys a spiritually meaningful place that offered a sense of community, purpose, and support—elements he had not experienced prior to joining the organization. The head of Homeboys, a Jesuit priest he refers to as his "new father Greg," took Navarro under his wing, showing a deep commitment to the wellbeing of every "broken child and person," which Navarro implies included himself.
Rich Cabral and Navarro highlight the importance of embracing the opportunities provided by Homeboys for personal transformation. Navarro underscores that those who do not seize these opportunities might face severe consequences, as he recalls many who have passed away, arguably because they did not follow through with the support available.
Navarro stresses the significance of doing one's part in the process of recovery, indicating a balance between the help offered by Homeboys and self-responsibility. This also suggests a potential quick return to negative outcomes for those who abandon the guidance provided by Homeboys and revert to their previous ways.
At Homeboys, Navarro engaged in a variety of roles, from working in the bakery to managing merchandising, which demonstrates the array of job opportunities Homeboys provides to help members build diverse practical skills. Paulie, in particular, developed a passion for making coffee while working as a barista. He speaks with surprise and delight about his enjoyment and aspirations in the field, expressing a strong commitment to honing his craft.
His newfound passion also includes a dedication to teaching others, revealing his desire to pass on his skills to individuals who share similar backgrounds to his own. Although the details of how Homeboys facilitated these developments are not specified, it ...
The impact of the Homeboys organization
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