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Trigger Avenue

By Rachel Maddow

In this episode of Rachel Maddow Presents: Déjà News, the discussion centers on gag orders and legal challenges surrounding high-profile cases involving former President Trump. The Manhattan case and Mar-a-Lago documents investigation raise questions about gag orders on witnesses like Michael Cohen and the handling of classified materials.

Additionally, the episode examines motions to suppress evidence in the Mar-a-Lago case, with Trump challenging the search warrant and the government concerned about public statements endangering law enforcement. The impact of the Fisher decision on potential obstruction charges related to January 6th is also explored.

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Gag Orders in High-Profile Trump Cases

Manhattan Case

Trump seeks to terminate the post-trial gag order, arguing it's no longer needed as a presidential candidate. The judge may modify it, allowing witnesses like Michael Cohen to speak freely.

Mar-a-Lago Case

The government wants to impose a gag order over Trump's misleading statements about the search, citing law enforcement safety concerns. Trump's team contests this, saying actual threats should occur first.

Motions to Suppress Evidence in Mar-a-Lago

Trump challenges the search warrant affidavit, claiming omissions about handling records and consent to search. However, Weissmann and McCord argue these claims are legally irrelevant to probable cause.

The judge appears permissive, granting Trump's team extensions without urgency.

Impact of Fisher Case on Obstruction Charges

Weissmann and McCord suggest the Fisher decision could limit obstruction charges to document tampering cases, affecting some, but not all, January 6th charges against Trump.

Most Capitol rioters face additional felonies beyond obstruction, so the impact varies. The conspiracy charges against Trump would remain unaffected.

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  • Gag orders in high-profile cases are court orders that restrict parties involved from discussing certain aspects of the case publicly. They are often used to protect the integrity of the legal process, ensure a fair trial, or safeguard sensitive information. Gag orders can cover various topics, such as prohibiting parties from making statements that could prejudice potential jurors or disclosing confidential details of the case. Violating a gag order can result in legal consequences for the party involved.
  • Motions to suppress evidence are legal requests made by a party, typically the defense, to exclude certain evidence from being used in a trial. This can be based on various grounds, such as improper collection methods or violations of constitutional rights. The goal is to prevent evidence that was obtained unlawfully or unfairly from being considered in court. These motions are typically argued before a judge who will decide whether the evidence should be suppressed or allowed in the trial.
  • The Fisher case is a legal decision that could potentially restrict obstruction charges against Trump to cases involving document tampering, impacting some but not all charges related to the January 6th Capitol riot. This limitation may affect the scope of charges against Trump, particularly in cases where obstruction is based on actions other than tampering with documents. The impact of the Fisher case varies depending on the specific charges faced by individuals involved in the Capitol riot, with conspiracy charges against Trump remaining unaffected by this potential limitation.
  • Weissmann and McCord are legal professionals who are involved in the cases mentioned. They provide legal perspectives and arguments related to the issues at hand, such as gag orders and evidence suppression motions. Their viewpoints are presented in the text to show differing legal interpretations and strategies in the legal proceedings.

Counterarguments

  • Trump's desire to terminate the gag order in the Manhattan case might be seen as an attempt to influence public opinion as a presidential candidate, which could be argued as a reason to maintain the order.
  • Modifying the gag order to allow witnesses like Michael Cohen to speak could potentially prejudice public opinion and affect the fairness of any future proceedings.
  • Imposing a gag order in the Mar-a-Lago case preemptively could be justified if there is a reasonable expectation that Trump's statements could lead to a real threat to law enforcement, not necessarily requiring an actual threat to have occurred first.
  • Trump's team's argument that actual threats should occur before imposing a gag order could be seen as reactive rather than proactive, potentially endangering individuals if threats were to materialize.
  • The challenge to the search warrant affidavit in the Mar-a-Lago case on the grounds of omissions might raise valid concerns about the thoroughness and transparency of the legal process, even if they do not affect probable cause.
  • Granting extensions to Trump's team in the Mar-a-Lago case without urgency could be criticized for potentially delaying justice or suggesting partiality by the judiciary.
  • The interpretation of the Fisher decision's impact on obstruction charges could be debated, with some legal experts possibly arguing that its implications could be broader or narrower than Weissmann and McCord suggest.
  • The assertion that most Capitol rioters face additional felonies beyond obstruction and that the Fisher decision's impact varies could be challenged by pointing out that the obstruction charges are significant and central to the cases, and any limitation on these charges could have a substantial effect on the overall accountability for the events of January 6th.
  • The claim that conspiracy charges against Trump would remain unaffected by the Fisher decision could be contested on the grounds that legal interpretations and precedents are often subject to change and can have unforeseen consequences on related charges.

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Gag orders in the Manhattan and Mar-a-Lago cases

Gag orders are at the center of contentious legal debates in two high-profile legal cases involving former President Donald Trump, in both New York and Florida, each with its distinct context and arguments.

The Manhattan case involves a motion to terminate the gag order, with Trump arguing the need to speak freely as a presidential candidate

Trump's attorneys argue that, following the conclusion of the trial, the gag order that was initially intended to protect the administration of justice no longer serves its purpose and thus should be terminated. They maintain there is no longer a "clear and present danger" that justifies its continuation.

The gag order was initially imposed to protect the administration of justice during the trial, but Trump claims this is no longer necessary

The gag order had been put in place due to concerns about potential undue influence on witnesses or jurors. However, with the trial over, Trump's legal team insists that maintaining the gag order is no longer warranted.

However, the judge may modify the gag order to allow more commentary from witnesses like Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels

The judge, potentially responding to Trump's need to speak freely in his capacity as a presidential candidate, and in light of the trial's conclusion, could lift or modify parts of the gag order. This may allow witnesses such as Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels, who are currently restricted from speaking freely about the case, to comment on the verdict and related matters.

The Mar-a-Lago case involves a government motion to modify Trump's bail conditions to impose a gag order

In this case, the issue is whether a gag order should be imposed as part of Trump's bail conditions, largely due to concerns about misleading public statements and their impact on law enforcement safety.

The government cites Trump's misleading statements about the search as creating a threat to law enforcement safety

The government references misleading statements by Trump regarding a policy on the use of force by federal agents, which he misrepresented, and reactions such as Steve Bannon's remarks about the search of Mar-a-Lago. These instances underscore the government's concerns for the safety of law enforcement personnel.

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  • The Manhattan case involves a gag order imposed during a trial related to former President Trump. Trump's legal team argues that the gag order, initially meant to protect the trial process, is no longer necessary post-trial. They seek to allow more freedom of speech, especially for witnesses like Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels.

In the Mar-a-Lago case, the government is considering imposing a gag order on Trump as part of his bail conditions due to concerns about misleading public statements impacting law enforcement safety. Trump opposes this, arguing that a direct threat or attack on law enforcement should occur before such restrictions are justified. The cases present different scenarios regarding the necessity and timing of gag orders, with judges weighing legal principles against individual rights and public safety.

  • In the Manhattan case, the gag order was initially imposed to prevent undue influence on witnesses or jurors during the trial involving former President Donald Trump. Trump's legal team argues that after the trial, the gag order is no longer necessary as the risks it aimed to mitigate have passed. The judge may consider modifying the gag order to allow more commentary from witnesses like Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels post-trial.

In the Mar-a-Lago case, the government seeks to impose a gag order as part of Trump's bail conditions due to concerns about misleading public statements impacting law enforcement safety. Trump opposes the gag order, arguing that there should be evidence of actual threats or attacks on law enforcement before such restrictions are justified. The government points to Trump's misleading statements and reactions from others as reasons for the gag order to safeguard law enforcement personnel.

  • Trump's legal team argues that the gag order in the Manhattan case is no longer necessary post-trial, as it was initially meant to protect the trial process. They claim that lifting the gag order would allow Trump to speak freely, especially as a presidential ...

Counterarguments

  • The gag order in the Manhattan case may still be necessary to preserve the integrity of ongoing related legal proceedings or to protect the privacy and safety of individuals involved.
  • Modifying the gag order to allow witnesses to speak could potentially lead to public statements that might influence any potential appeals or related legal actions.
  • Imposing a gag order in the Mar-a-Lago case could be seen as a proactive measure to prevent potential harm to law enforcement, rather than waiting for an actual threat to materialize.
  • Trump's right to free speech as a presidential candidate must be balanced against the potential for his statements to undermine the legal process or public trust in the justice system.
  • The government's concerns in the Mar-a-Lago case may be based on a broader assessment of risk that takes into account the potential for incitement, even if no direct th ...

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Motions to suppress evidence in the Mar-a-Lago case

As the Mar-a-Lago case heads into hearings on motions to suppress, former President Trump challenges the search warrant on the grounds of alleged omissions in the affidavit, raising complex issues about the case's path forward.

Trump is challenging the search warrant on Franks v. Delaware grounds, claiming omissions in the affidavit

Trump's legal defense has raised a motion to suppress based on Franks v. Delaware. The case centers on whether a defendant can challenge a search warrant due to false or misleading statements made by law enforcement in the warrant application. Trump's claims focus on alleged omissions in the search warrant affidavit regarding handling of the Presidential Records Act (PRA) and prior consent to search his property, which he argues invalidate the warrant.

Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord articulate that the issues Trump’s team raises, such as omissions about the PRA and past consent given to search Mar-a-Lago, are not legally relevant to the affidavit's establishment of probable cause. They dismiss these claims as "baseless" and highlight that these claims are irrelevant to whether there was probable cause for the search. McCord feels these arguments are "so far afield" from the judge's considerations at trial regarding whether Trump had designated everything as personal, leading to the conclusion that they do not affect the validity of the affidavit.

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Motions to suppress evidence in the Mar-a-Lago case

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  • Franks v. Delaware grounds allow defendants to challenge a search warrant if it contains false statements made knowingly or recklessly by law enforcement. This Supreme Court case established that if a crucial statement in a warrant affidavit is proven false and included with intent or recklessness, the warrant becomes invalid. The case ensures that defendants have a legal recourse if law enforcement provides misleading information to obtain a warrant.
  • The Presidential Records Act (PRA) is a U.S. law that governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents, mandating the preservation of these records for public access. It changed the ownership of presidential records from private to public, ensuring that these records are managed and preserved for historical and governmental transparency purposes. The PRA requires Presidents to maintain and hand over their official records to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) for safekeeping and eventual public access. It was enacted in response to President Nixon's attempt to destroy records, establishing a framework for the management and preservation of presidential records.
  • The crime-fraud exception is a legal principle that allows communications between a client and their attorney to lose protection under attorney-client privilege if they are made in furtherance of a crime or fraud. This exception is applied when a client seeks legal advice to facilitate or cover up illegal activities. It is designed to prevent the misuse of le ...

Counterarguments

  • The challenge on Franks v. Delaware grounds may be seen as a legitimate legal strategy to ensure that all evidence used against a defendant has been obtained through a fully transparent and lawful process, and any omissions, if proven to be intentional or reckless, could be significant.
  • The relevance of omissions regarding the Presidential Records Act and consent to search could be argued as pertinent to the establishment of probable cause, especially if such omissions could mislead the issuing judge about the legality of the search and seizure.
  • Judge Cannon's permissiveness in granting extensions could be interpreted as ensuring that the defense has adequate time to prepare, which is a f ...

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Potential impact of the Fisher case decision on obstruction of justice charges

Andrew Weissmann and McCord offer insights into the potential repercussions of the impending court decision on the Fisher case and its implications for obstruction of justice charges, with specific reference to the January 6th cases involving Donald Trump.

The Fisher case may limit the obstruction of official proceeding charge to cases involving tampering with documents

Weissmann and McCord, who are working on an analysis piece in anticipation of the Fisher case decision, suggest that the verdict may limit the obstruction charge to matters involving document tampering. This could potentially affect some of the January 6th charges against Donald Trump, though not necessarily all.

Trump's attorneys are claiming that the testimony of two attorneys who appeared before the grand jury concerning Mar-a-Lago should be suppressed. They argue that the crime-fraud exception, which lifts attorney-client privilege when communication is used to further a crime or fraud, does not apply.

This would affect some of the January 6th charges against Trump, but not all

Weissmann discusses the possibility that, should the Fisher case narrow the application of the obstruction statute, this could impact some charges against Trump connected to January 6, but it would not touch all. He details how the court might specify that the statute pertains exclusively to document-related obstruction.

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Potential impact of the Fisher case decision on obstruction of justice charges

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  • The Fisher case is a legal case that is expected to have implications for obstruction of justice charges. It may potentially limit the scope of what actions can be considered obstruction, possibly focusing more on tampering with documents rather than other forms of obstruction. This could impact cases involving individuals like Donald Trump, particularly those related to the events of January 6th.
  • The crime-fraud exception is a legal principle that allows for the breach of attorney-client privilege when communication between a client and their attorney is used to further a crime or fraud. This exception is applied to prevent the privilege from being used as a shield to protect ongoing or future criminal activities. It permits the disclosure of otherwise confidential communications in situations where legal advice is sought to further illegal activities. The exception aims to uphold the integrity of the legal system by ensuring that privilege does not extend to communications t ...

Counterarguments

  • The Fisher case may not necessarily limit obstruction charges to document tampering; the court could interpret the statute more broadly.
  • The crime-fraud exception is a well-established legal principle, and there may be valid grounds for its application in the Mar-a-Lago case.
  • Even if the Fisher case narrows the scope of the obstruction statute, prosecutors might still argue that Trump's actions fall within the revised definition.
  • The impact of the Fisher case on the January 6th charges against Trump could be mitigated by other legal theories or charges that prosecutors may bring.
  • While most January 6th rioters face other felony charges, the significance of the obstruc ...

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