In the concluding episode of Rachel Maddow's podcast, legal experts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord provide an insider's perspective on the final stages of the Manhattan trial of Donald Trump. They dissect the prosecution and defense's closing arguments, analyzing their strategies and the evidence presented.
The discussion shifts to the critical role of the judge and jury during deliberations, from answering juror questions to mitigating potential deadlocks. Weissmann and McCord also examine recent developments in the Mar-a-Lago case, shedding light on Trump's inflammatory claims about the DOJ and Judge Cannon's controversial rulings. Their analysis offers a nuanced look at the complexities surrounding these high-profile legal cases.
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Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord criticized the defense for failing to convincingly address damaging evidence like Exhibits 35 and 36, the handwritten notes about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels' lawyer. They also noted the defense did not effectively counter testimonies from Hope Hicks and David Pecker and questioned why Cohen or Weisselberg would hide actions from Trump. The defense's stance on the Access Hollywood tape undermined their credibility.
The prosecution methodically presented a timeline using over 400 exhibits, highlighting Trump's tendency to micromanage financial disbursements. They rebutted claims that the payments were for legal services, arguing Cohen spent more time testifying than providing legal work. McCord said Trump hired Cohen for his willingness to lie and cheat, discrediting the defense's attacks on Cohen's credibility.
McCord said jurors send questions to the judge, who confers with both parties before responding in open court. For testimony readback requests, the judge determines what will be read. Jurors may initially vote to gauge opinion ranges before deliberating.
If a jury reports an impasse, the judge may issue an "Allen charge" urging further deliberation attempts. But McCord noted judges must be cautious about avoiding undue coercion through repeated charges.
Trump claimed the DOJ authorized the FBI to use lethal force during the Mar-a-Lago raid, omitting policy details that deadly force is only permitted to prevent imminent threats. His inflammatory statements led the DOJ to file a motion restricting such comments, which Judge Cannon denied on procedural grounds.
Andrew Weissmann noted the nature of Trump's motions to Cannon suggests they view her as biased. Mary McCord criticized Cannon's paperless order chastising the prosecution's motion as lacking courtesy and substance, despite serious safety risks. Legal experts anticipate Cannon's conduct may face scrutiny from appeals courts.
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In the closing arguments of a high-profile trial, both the defense and prosecution laid out their final pitches to the jury, with the defense struggling to address key pieces of evidence and the prosecution presenting a compelling timeline of events.
The defense failed to convincingly address significant exhibits and testimony that could have impacted their case.
Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann discuss how the defense did not mount a strong argument against Exhibits 35 and 36, which were handwritten notes regarding the $130,000 wire transfer from Michael Cohen to Stormy Daniels' lawyer. The defense also failed to effectively counter the damaging testimonies of Hope Hicks and David Pecker. They criticized the defense for not providing a plausible reason why Cohen or Allen Weisselberg would hide their actions from Donald Trump, and for the defense's use of the term "lies" without explaining why certain evidence should be dismissed.
Todd Blanche, in his closing argument, contended that the Access Hollywood tape incident was not a significant campaign crisis, a stance that was considered implausible and possibly detrimental to their credibility.
The prosecution presented a detailed and corroborative account of the evidence, countering the defense's claims.
The prosecution, using more than 400 exhibits and multimedia slides, methodically walked through emails, text messages, and transcripts to paint a cohesive narrative. They highlighted Trump's nature as a micromanager, specifically pointing out Trump's personal involvement in the sign-off of checks, which underlined his need to maintain control over financial disbursements.
The prosecution addressed the defense's insistence that pa ...
The Manhattan Trial and Closing Arguments
Understanding the dynamics of jury deliberations and the judge's responsibilities is crucial to the judicial process. Mary McCord sheds light on how jurors communicate with the judge, handle requests, and how a judge may step in when impasses occur.
During jury deliberations, the judge retains a significant role in managing and responding to jury queries.
When jurors have questions, particularly regarding legal points, they send a note to the judge. The judge then confers with the parties—either having joint or different proposals—before determining how to proceed. Both sides are heard before the judge announces any decision, and responses to jury questions are given in open court and recorded.
If jurors request a readback of testimony, prosecutors specify what is needed, leading to potential disputes about what falls under the requested topic. The judge has the final say on what will be read back, usually by the court reporter, but occasionally by the judge themselves.
Jurors do not have prescribed rules on how to conduct their discussions; it is at their discretion. They often start deliberations with a vote to gauge the range of opinions in the room, which helps in understanding whether there's a consensus or if there are significant disagreements.
In the event of an impasse, the judge has a delicate role balancing the encouragement of deliberations with avoiding undue pressure on the jury.
The judge may resort to an "Allen charge" if the jury struggles to reach a verdict. ...
Jury Deliberations and the Judge's Role
Recent developments in the Mar-a-Lago case have drawn attention, particularly concerning false statements made by former President Trump regarding the search warrant and responses from law enforcement and legal experts.
Trump has made several inaccurate statements about the Department of Justice's actions during the Mar-a-Lago raid, specifically concerning the use of force policy.
In a motion, Trump claimed that the DOJ, during the Mar-a-Lago raid, had authorized the FBI to use lethal force. Trump further fanned flames by sending emails and making public statements suggesting that the government was authorized to shoot him. His claims deliberately omitted the actual policy detail that deadly force is employed only when necessary to prevent imminent danger of death or serious physical injury. The distortion of facts by Trump was echoed by his followers, heightening inflammatory rhetoric around the search and leading to extreme claims. These allegations have been broadly recognized as a danger to legal personnel, with people like Merrick Garland speaking out to counter Trump’s false statements.
Following these allegations, the Department of Justice filed a motion before Judge Aileen Cannon. They sought to restrict Trump from making public comments that could present a significant, imminent, and foreseeable danger to the agents involved in the investigation. However, Judge Cannon denied the DOJ's motion based on procedural issues regarding the meet and confer requirement rather than engaging with the significant safety risks presented.
Judge Cannon's rulings and potential bias have become a point of contention and could bring her further scrutiny from the appeals courts.
Legal experts like Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord have expressed their views on the situation. Weissmann points out that the nature of the motions Trump's team is directing at Judge Cannon may indicate they see her as partial. The motion itself would seemingly not be made before a judge viewed as dispassionate. McCord notes that Cannon issued a paperless order through her clerk, which criticized the special counsel's efforts as lacking substance and failing to show professio ...
The Mar-a-Lago Case and Recent Developments
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