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Trump hush money case heads to jury following instructions

By Rachel Maddow

In this episode of Rachel Maddow Presents: Déjà News, the prosecutors' closing arguments in the Trump hush money case are closely examined. Commentators analyze the strategies employed by both the prosecution and defense, including the prosecution's efforts to undermine implausible claims and highlight key evidence.

The episode also delves into Michael Cohen's role as a witness, the unique challenges of prosecuting a former president, and the notably distant behavior of Trump's family members throughout the trial. With the case now in the jury's hands, the commentators consider the intense focus and engagement of the jury, while cautioning against speculating on their potential leanings.

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The prosecution's closing argument strategy

The prosecution meticulously crafted their closing argument, aiming to rebut the defense forcefully while leveraging key evidence against Trump.

A "soup to nuts" case

O'Donnell and Weissmann describe the prosecution's comprehensive approach, leaving no stone unturned.

Exposing the defense's implausible claims

According to O'Donnell, the prosecutor Steinglass repeatedly emphasized logical inconsistencies in the defense's claims, using rhetorical devices like "does anyone believe that?"

Highlighting "smoking gun" documents

The prosecution highlighted key evidence like Exhibits 35 and 36 - bank records and notes corroborating allegations against Trump.

Rehabilitating witness Michael Cohen

While acknowledging Cohen's flaws, Steinglass argued, per O'Donnell, that Trump chose him for his willingness to lie and break rules on Trump's behalf.

The defense's closing argument weaknesses

Commentators identified several weaknesses in the defense's closing argument.

Internal contradictions

O'Donnell notes the defense struggled with contradictory stances - claiming payments were both legal reimbursements and that Cohen was over-reimbursed.

Failure to address key evidence

Weissmann criticizes the defense for not adequately explaining the "smoking gun" documents and testimony implicating figures like Hope Hicks.

Attacks on Cohen's credibility undermined

While attempting to discredit Cohen as unethical, the prosecution argued, per O'Donnell and Rubin, that Trump chose him for that reason.

The jury's behavior

The jury has remained focused and composed, making their leanings impossible to gauge before deliberations begin.

Observations of jury engagement

Maddow praises the jury's exceptional attentiveness, while she and O'Donnell caution against speculating on their potential inclinations.

Interpreting the jury is fruitless

Weissmann underscores that until deliberations, the legally restricted jury's thoughts remain private, making outside interpretations mere guesswork.

Prosecuting a former president

Prosecuting Trump presents unique challenges given his former status as president.

Higher burden of proof

According to Weissmann, the prosecution likely felt compelled to meet a higher standard given Trump's past role as a national leader.

Managing defense tactics and sentencing discussions

The judge actively curbed defense attempts to discuss potential sentencing early by issuing a curative instruction refocusing the jury.

Trump's family lacked visible emotional connection

Notably, Trump's family members like daughter Tiffany maintained a striking distance from him, lacking the typical support seen from defendants' families.

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Clarifications

  • The "smoking gun" documents referred to in the text are crucial pieces of evidence that strongly support the allegations against Trump. These documents, such as bank records and notes, provide concrete proof that can potentially incriminate Trump in the case. They are highlighted by the prosecution to strengthen their argument and undermine the defense's claims. The term "smoking gun" signifies evidence that is highly incriminating and difficult to refute.

Counterarguments

  • The prosecution's case may be comprehensive, but it could also be perceived as overwhelming or confusing to the jury with too much information.
  • Highlighting logical inconsistencies in the defense's claims is a standard strategy, but it doesn't necessarily prove the prosecution's case beyond a reasonable doubt.
  • The use of "smoking gun" documents is compelling, but the defense might argue that these pieces of evidence are taken out of context or do not directly implicate Trump.
  • Rehabilitating Michael Cohen's witness credibility is a double-edged sword, as it may also remind the jury of his past dishonesty.
  • The defense's internal contradictions could be a strategy to present multiple defenses, giving the jury options to consider for reasonable doubt.
  • The defense's failure to address key evidence might be a tactic to avoid legitimizing questionable evidence or to focus on stronger aspects of their case.
  • Attacks on Cohen's credibility are standard practice in court, and the prosecution's argument that Trump chose him for his willingness to lie could be seen as speculative.
  • The jury's attentiveness is not necessarily indicative of their leanings towards the prosecution's case.
  • The idea that interpreting the jury's thoughts is fruitless could be challenged by the expertise of legal analysts in reading subtle cues from jurors.
  • The notion of a higher burden of proof for prosecuting a former president could be seen as an unfair advantage, suggesting that all defendants should be treated equally under the law.
  • The judge's curbing of defense tactics regarding sentencing discussions could be criticized as potentially limiting the defense's ability to fully present their case.
  • The lack of visible emotional connection from Trump's family could be due to a variety of reasons unrelated to their support for him, such as legal advice or personal coping mechanisms.

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The prosecution's closing argument strategy and use to of key evidence

The prosecution's closing argument in the high-profile case against former President Trump was a meticulously crafted endeavor, aimed at meticulously rebutting the defense while leveraging incriminating evidence against the accused.

The prosecution presented a comprehensive, "soup to nuts" case intending to leave no stone unturned

O'Donnell and Andrew Weissmann discuss the strategy behind the prosecution's comprehensive closing argument, which was designed to be exceptionally thorough, perhaps responding to an anticipated heightened expectation due to Trump’s former presidential status.

The prosecutor repeatedly emphasized the inconsistencies and implausability of the defense's claims, using rhetorical devices like "does anyone believe that?"

The prosecutor, Josh Steinglass, took a firm stance against the defense's narrative by emphasizing the inconsistencies and improbability of their assertions. Employing pointed rhetorical questions, such as "does anyone believe that?", Steinglass aimed to cast doubt on the defense's positions and persuade the jury of their lack of credibility.

The prosecution highlighted key documentary evidence, such as the "smoking gun" bank records and handwritten notes, to corroborate the core allegations against Trump

The prosecution's cornerstone evidence included what were described as "smoking gun" documents. Exhibits 35 and 36, a bank statement and handwritten notes, purportedly provided unequivocal corroboration of the core allegations against Trump. On display for the courtroom, these documents included a record of payment from Michael Cohen to Stormy Daniels' lawyer and subsequent interpretations by Trump's CEO and controller that solidified the paper trail, offered as definitive evidence of wrongdoing.

The prosecution sought to rehabilitate the credibility of witness Michael Cohen, acknowledging his flaws but arguing that Trump chose him precisely for his willingness to lie and cheat on Trump ...

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  • In a legal context, the use of rhetorical questions like "does anyone believe that?" is a technique employed to challenge the credibility or logic of an argument. By posing such questions, the speaker prompts the audience to consider the implausibility of a statement or claim, aiming to cast doubt on its validity. This strategy can be effective in highlighting inconsistencies or weaknesses in the opposing side's position, subtly guiding the audience towards a particular conclusion.
  • Michael Cohen's tainted credibility stems from his history of lying and unethical behavior, which has been well-documented in various legal proceedings and public disclosures. This history of dishonesty and questionable actions has led to doubts about the reliability and trustworthiness of his statements and testimony. Cohen's past actions, including pleading guilty to charges like tax evasion and campaign finance violations, have significantly damaged his reputation and credibility in the eyes of many. This lack of credibility poses a challenge for prosecutors who must navigate his tainted past while presenting him as a witness in legal proceedings.
  • Michael Cohen served as a personal attorney and "fixer" for Donald Trump. As a fixer, Cohen handled various sensitive matters for Trump, including legal issues, negotiations, and potentially controversial situations. Cohen's role involved resolving problems discreetly and protecting Trump's interests, often operating in a gray area of legality. This relationship highlighted Cohen's loyalty and willingness to take on tasks that requir ...

Counterarguments

  • The meticulous crafting of the prosecution's closing argument could be perceived as overzealous, potentially overshadowing the substance of the evidence with the style of presentation.
  • A comprehensive case might risk overwhelming the jury with information, which could inadvertently lead to confusion or a dilution of the most salient points.
  • Emphasizing inconsistencies and implausibility in the defense's claims could be seen as an appeal to emotion rather than a strictly logical argument, which might not be as effective in a legal setting that values evidence over rhetoric.
  • Highlighting key documentary evidence assumes the evidence is interpreted correctly and that the context is fully understood; there is always a possibility tha ...

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The defense's closing argument and its weaknesses

In the recent court case, the defense's closing argument faced critical scrutiny for its internal inconsistencies and weak handling of character evidence, with commentators O'Donnell, Weissmann, and Rubin analyzing its shortcomings.

The defense's case was marked by internal logical inconsistencies, as they struggled to reconcile contradictory defense theories

The defense, according to O'Donnell, exuded a messy appearance due to internal contradictions, speculating that it could make the defense seem unreliable.

The defense argued both that the payments were lawful reimbursements and that Cohen was a thief who was reimbursed too much, without resolving this contradiction

Blanche and the defense team advanced a two-pronged theory that the payments to Cohen were routine legal expenses while also categorizing him as a thief for being over-reimbursed, a problematic stance the prosecution challenged for lacking consistency.

The defense failed to adequately address or provide plausible explanations for key pieces of evidence, such as the "smoking gun" documents

Weissmann disparaged Todd Blanche's closing argument for not convincingly tackling pivotal evidence, such as Exhibits 35 and 36 and the $130,000 figure associated with Alan Weiss and Ellen Weiser. The defense neglected to contend with compelling testimony linked to figures like Hope Hicks and David Pecker, as well as the implications surrounding the Access Hollywood tape. Furthermore, the "smoking gun" documents, emphasized by the prosecution, went unexplained by the defense.

The defense's aggressive attacks on Michael Cohen's character were undercut by the prosecution's argument that Trump himself chose Cohen for his willingness to be unethical

O'Donnell described the defense's attempt to discredit Michael Cohen as a key strategy. However, this was diminished by the prosecution’s argument that Tru ...

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  • Character evidence in a court case involves presenting information about a person's character or reputation to help establish their credibility or lack thereof. This type of evidence can be used to show a person's propensity to act in a certain way based on their past behavior. However, character evidence is often subject to strict rules and limitations to prevent unfair prejudice or distraction from the main issues in the case. In legal proceedings, the admissibility and relevance of character evidence are carefully considered to ensure a fair trial for all parties involved.
  • The Access Hollywood tape referred to a recording from 2005 where Donald Trump made lewd comments about women. The tape became a significant issue during the 2016 presidential campaign, causing controversy and leading to public backlash against Trump. It raised questions about Trump's character and treatment of women, impacting the political discourse and public perception of the candidate. The tape's release prompted discussions a ...

Counterarguments

  • The defense's argument may have appeared inconsistent, but it could be a strategic choice to present multiple alternative theories to create reasonable doubt.
  • Arguing that the payments were lawful while also claiming Cohen was a thief could be an attempt to show that even if the payments were not lawful, it was Cohen's doing and not the defendant's.
  • The defense might have chosen not to address the "smoking gun" documents directly in the closing argument, relying on the jury to consider the context provided during the trial or questioning the docume ...

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The jury's behavior and the challenge of reading their potential leanings

As proceedings of a high-profile trial continue, commentators discuss the impossibility of gauging the jury's inclinations before deliberations begin.

Observations of Jury Composure and Engagement

The jury has shown an exceptional level of focus and commitment during the trial, according to Maddow. She describes any effort to interpret the jury’s leanings as mere "wishful thinking and projection," especially from those aligned with Trump. Both Maddow and O'Donnell view attempts to speculate on jurors' attitudes as largely fruitless—serving neither the legal process nor objective analysis. The judge overseeing the case has also remarked on the jury's attentiveness, even as proceedings extend beyond regular hours, which is a sign of the jury's steadfast engagement with the trial.

The Impossibility of Outside Interpretations

As Weissmann points out, the jury has not commenced discussions amongst themselves, reflecting their adherence to standard legal procedures which prevent them from sharing their thoughts on the case prematurely. This also means it is difficult for anyone, including seasoned legal analysts like O'Donnell, to ...

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  • The behavior of the jury, including their focus, attentiveness, and adherence to legal procedures, can impact the trial outcome by influencing their understanding of the case and the evidence presented. Speculating on the jury's leanings before deliberations begin is deemed challenging due to their professionalism and the restrictions on discussing the case prematurely. The jury's collective and individual judgments will only become clear during deliberation ...

Counterarguments

  • While Maddow and O'Donnell may see attempts to interpret the jury's leanings as wishful thinking, others might argue that experienced legal professionals can sometimes pick up on subtle cues that may provide insight into jurors' thoughts.
  • The judge's observation of the jury's attentiveness does not necessarily indicate their leanings towards one side or the other, as jurors can be attentive but still remain impartial or undecided.
  • The fact that the jury has not started discussions among themselves does not preclude individual jurors from forming preliminary opinions based on the evidence presented so far.
  • Legal procedures do indeed prevent the jury from sharing their thoughts prematurely, but this does not mean that all jurors adhere strictly to these rules; there could be instances of jurors informally forming opinions.
  • While it may be challenging to read the jury's leanings accurately, this does not mean that all speculation is baseless or that patterns in jury behavior cannot sometimes be indicative of their leanings.
  • The jury's judgments being a matter of speculation does not rule out the possibility that some jurors ...

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The unique dynamics of prosecuting a former president

The trial of a former president is a rare and intricate legal battle where both prosecutors and defense attorneys must navigate an unconventional landscape shaped by the defendant's high profile.

Prosecution's Burden of Proof

In the case of prosecuting a former president, the prosecution likely felt the pressure to meet an even higher standard of proof than usual. Weissmann pointed out that there is a possibility of the jury subconsciously demanding more than circumstantial evidence to convict due to the defendant's former status as a national leader and potential future candidate. This awareness would have made the prosecution extremely diligent in presenting their case, anticipating the jurors’ heightened expectations.

Defense Strategies and Judicial Oversight

The defense, aware of these unique dynamics, may have sought to capitalize on them by trying to bring the issue ...

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  • A defendant's high profile, especially if they were a former president, can influence legal proceedings by potentially raising the bar for the prosecution to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Jurors might unconsciously expect stronger evidence due to the defendant's public status, impacting how the case is perceived. This heightened scrutiny can lead to both the prosecution and defense being extra cautious in their strategies and arguments. Judges may need to carefully manage any attempts to exploit the defendant's status during the trial to ensure a fair legal process.
  • A curative instruction is a directive given by a judge to the jury during a trial to correct any improper statements or actions that may have occurred. It aims to remedy any potential prej ...

Counterarguments

  • The presumption of innocence should apply equally to all defendants, regardless of their former status, and the standard of proof should not be informally raised due to the defendant's previous position.
  • Jurors are instructed to base their verdict solely on the evidence presented in court, and there are mechanisms in place, such as jury selection and instructions, to mitigate bias, including any potential bias due to the defendant's former role.
  • The defense's strategy to introduce sentencing considerations early could be a legitimate tactic to highlight the gravity of the decision jurors must make, rather than an attempt to improperly influence them.
  • Curative instructions, while intended to refocus the jury, could potentially have the unintended effect of emphasizing the issue they are meant to mitigate, thereby influencing the jury's perception in unpredictable ways.
  • The high profile of a defendant could also work agains ...

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The notable absence of emotional connection between Trump and his family members in attendance

During recent proceedings, a striking feature was the apparent lack of emotional connection between Donald Trump and his family members who were present in the courtroom.

Trump's family members, including his daughter Tiffany, maintained a conspicuous distance from him in the courtroom, with no visible signs of interaction or support

Observers noted that Trump's family members, including his daughter Tiffany Trump, maintained a significant distance from him, and there were no visible signs of interaction or emotional support. Typically, there is an expectation of some level of family engagement in such stressful situations, but the observable behavior was marked by a clear absence of such connections.

This lack of familial engagement contrasts sharply with the typical behavior of defendants and their families in criminal proceedings, potentially signaling a lack of personal investment or concern from Trump's inner circle

Comparatively, this observed behavior is ...

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  • In criminal proceedings, it is common for defendants to receive emotional support from their families. This support can manifest as physical presence in court, expressions of solidarity, and providing comfort during stressful legal proceedings. Family members often play a crucial role in showing support and care for the defendant during challenging times in the legal system.
  • Family engagement in stressful situations is often crucial for emotional support and solidarity. In times of difficulty, having family members present can provide comfort, reassurance, and a sense of u ...

Counterarguments

  • The observed distance and lack of interaction in the courtroom may not accurately reflect the family's private emotional connections and support systems.
  • Courtroom behavior can be influenced by legal advice, and Trump's family members may have been instructed to maintain a professional demeanor for strategic reasons.
  • The stress of public scrutiny could affect how family members display their emotions, leading to more reserved behavior in a public setting like a courtroom.
  • The absence of visible support in the courtroom does not necessarily indicate a lack of personal investment or concern; family members might be providing support in other ways outside of the public eye.
  • The dynamics of the Trump family and their interactions ar ...

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