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Arizona lawmakers vote to repeal 1864 abortion ban

By Rachel Maddow

This episode of Rachel Maddow Presents: Déjà News examines the aftermath of the Supreme Court's Dobbs decision overturning Roe v. Wade. It explores contrasting realities across states like Arizona, where efforts are underway to repeal a 19th-century abortion ban, and Florida, which has enacted a strict 6-week ban stripping reproductive rights.

The episode also sheds light on Donald Trump's economic messaging to working-class voters and his role in shaping the current post-Roe landscape. Additionally, it discusses the Biden-Harris campaign's efforts to engage young Black voters, including highlighting economic achievements and promises of further reforms in areas like cannabis and criminal justice.

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Arizona lawmakers vote to repeal 1864 abortion ban

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Impact of Overturning Roe v. Wade

In the wake of the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, praised by Donald Trump, states like Arizona and Florida are grappling with contrasting realities in terms of reproductive rights.

In Arizona, Democratic Governor Katie Hobbs plans to sign a bill repealing the state's near-total abortion ban from 1864, as Kris Mayes emphasizes protecting reproductive rights. However, a 15-week ban remains, and efforts continue to prevent enforcement until the repeal takes effect, potentially in August.

Conversely, in Florida, a new near-total abortion ban prohibiting the procedure after six weeks has taken effect, stripping reproductive freedoms from over four million women. Vice President Kamala Harris highlights Trump's role in shaping this post-Roe landscape through Supreme Court appointments. The ban's tight restrictions, Fentrice Driskell says, will prevent most abortions, disproportionately impacting under-resourced and minority women unable to travel out of state.

Donald Trump's Outreach to Working-Class Voters

On the campaign trail, Trump aims to gain support from working-class voters by focusing on economic issues. He claims they would benefit more under his leadership than Biden's, contrasting current conditions with the nation's "thriving" status during his tenure.

Trump cites a recent quarterly drop in growth as evidence of economic downturn under Biden. Notably, some union members have financially backed Trump's grassroots campaign, and a Wisconsin poll suggests his economic message resonates with some voters who view him as better for the economy.

Efforts to Engage Young Black Voters

The Biden-Harris campaign is actively working to connect with young Black voters, especially in key states like Georgia, amid concerns about waning enthusiasm and demands for reforms like cannabis and criminal justice.

Vice President Harris has highlighted the administration's economic achievements, like low Black unemployment and policies supporting career growth, homeownership, and education during visits. Tangible examples, such as student debt relief and infrastructure improvements, aim to showcase the administration's record.

However, a Wall Street Journal poll indicated lower enthusiasm among young Black male voters for Democrats, with some Trump support. Davante Jennings of the Young Democrats of Georgia Black Caucus believes these numbers are inflated but stresses the need for detailed plans addressing community needs to motivate young Black voters.

On cannabis and criminal justice reforms, Jennings notes the administration's recent cannabis steps were well-received, with expectations for further action like expungements. Increased commitment to transforming the criminal justice system impacting Black communities could also garner more support.

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  • In Arizona, efforts are underway to repeal a near-total abortion ban from 1864, with a 15-week ban still in place. In contrast, Florida has implemented a new near-total abortion ban prohibiting the procedure after six weeks, impacting over four million women. These bans reflect differing approaches to reproductive rights in the two states post the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
  • Donald Trump shaped the post-Roe landscape through his appointments to the Supreme Court. By nominating conservative justices who may be inclined to restrict abortion rights, Trump has influenced the direction of reproductive rights in the United States. These appointments have the potential to lead to decisions that could impact the availability and legality of abortion procedures. Trump's influence on the Supreme Court has been a significant factor in the ongoing debate surrounding reproductive rights and the potential overturning of Roe v. Wade.
  • Trump compared economic conditions under his leadership to those under Biden, citing a recent quarterly drop in growth as evidence of a downturn under Biden. He claims that working-class voters would benefit more under his leadership, emphasizing his administration's economic achievements during his tenure. Some union members have supported Trump's economic message, believing he is better for the economy, as indicated by polls showing resonance with certain voters. Trump's outreach to working-class voters focuses on contrasting the economic situations under his presidency with the current state of affairs under Biden.
  • The Biden-Harris campaign is actively working to connect with young Black voters, especially in key states like Georgia, amid concerns about waning enthusiasm and demands for reforms like cannabis and criminal justice. They are highlighting economic achievements and policies supporting career growth, homeownership, and education to engage this demographic. However, there is lower enthusiasm among young Black male voters for Democrats, with some showing support for Trump, indicating a need for detailed plans addressing community needs to motivate this group. Efforts on cannabis and criminal justice reforms have been well-received, with expectations for further action like expungements to increase support among young Black voters.

Counterarguments

  • Democratic Governor Katie Hobbs's plan to repeal Arizona's near-total abortion ban may be criticized for not going far enough if the 15-week ban remains in place.
  • Kris Mayes's emphasis on protecting reproductive rights in Arizona could be seen as not fully addressing the complexities and nuances of the abortion debate, including considerations of fetal viability and the rights of the unborn.
  • The efforts in Arizona to prevent enforcement of the 15-week abortion ban could be challenged on the grounds that they disregard the legislative process or the will of some constituents who support more restrictive abortion laws.
  • The implementation of Florida's near-total abortion ban could be defended by those who believe in the protection of fetal life from an early stage of pregnancy and see the law as a moral imperative.
  • The claim that over four million women in Florida have had their reproductive freedoms stripped could be countered by the argument that the law is intended to protect the rights of the unborn, which some believe are equally important.
  • Vice President Kamala Harris's highlighting of Trump's role in shaping the post-Roe landscape could be met with the counterargument that the Supreme Court justices act independently and that their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade was based on constitutional interpretation rather than political influence.
  • Fentrice Driskell's statement about the disproportionate impact of Florida's abortion ban could be countered with the argument that the law applies equally to all women in the state and that the focus should be on providing support and resources to under-resourced communities.
  • Trump's aim to gain support from working-class voters by focusing on economic issues could be criticized for oversimplifying complex economic challenges and for not acknowledging the global factors affecting the economy.
  • The contrast Trump makes between current economic conditions and the nation's status during his tenure could be challenged by pointing out that economic performance is influenced by a wide range of factors, many of which are beyond the control of any single administration.
  • The financial backing of some union members for Trump's grassroots campaign could be seen as not representative of the broader labor movement, which often aligns more closely with Democratic policies.
  • The Wisconsin poll suggesting Trump's economic message resonates with some voters could be critiqued for potentially not capturing the full diversity of voter opinions or for being an outlier rather than indicative of a broader trend.
  • The Biden-Harris campaign's efforts to connect with young Black voters could be criticized for not adequately addressing the specific concerns and policy priorities of this demographic.
  • Vice President Harris's highlighting of the administration's economic achievements could be met with skepticism by those who feel the policies have not gone far enough or have not directly benefited them.
  • The tangible examples of student debt relief and infrastructure improvements could be criticized for not being sufficiently widespread or for the debt relief being too limited in scope.
  • The lower enthusiasm among young Black male voters for Democrats could be countered by arguing that the Democratic Party has historically been more aligned with the interests of Black communities and that the support for Trump may not translate into actual votes.
  • Davante Jennings's stress on the need for detailed plans could be met with the argument that broad policy initiatives are sometimes necessary to address systemic issues and that overly detailed plans can become mired in complexity.
  • The administration's recent cannabis steps could be criticized for being too incremental or for not addressing the root causes of the war on drugs and its impact on Black communities.
  • The call for increased commitment to transforming the criminal justice system could be met with the counterargument that reforms need to be balanced with public safety concerns and the rule of law.

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Overturning of Roe v. Wade

Donald Trump praised the Supreme Court justices for overturning Roe v. Wade in a campaign event, signaling significant shifts in reproductive rights across the United States.

Impact in Arizona and Florida

Women in Arizona and Florida face contrasting realities in the wake of Roe v. Wade's overturning. In Arizona, steps are taken to protect abortion access, while in Florida, new restrictions tighten.

Repeal of near-total abortion ban in Arizona

Democratic Governor Katie Hobbs will sign a bill to repeal Arizona's near-total abortion ban from 1864, marking a pushback against the limitations imposed after the overturning of Roe v. Wade. The old law, which outlawed abortion from conception unless the mother's life was at risk and criminalized those who performed or helped a woman obtain an abortion, will no longer be in effect.

Arizona's Senate voted for the repeal, necessitated by the ban’s archaic origins dating back to a time when the state was not yet a state, women couldn't vote, and the Civil War was ongoing. While the repeal is an essential first step, the state is currently under a 15-week abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest. A ballot initiative is expected to pass in November to enshrine abortion rights in the Arizona constitution.

Despite the repeal, Kris Mayes emphasizes a commitment to opposing outrageous abortion bans and protecting reproductive rights. There's an ongoing effort to prevent enforcement of the old ban until the repeal takes effect, potentially in August. Doctors in Arizona are struggling with existing restrictions, unsure of how close to death they must wait before providing life-saving care during pregnancy complications.

New near-total abortion ban takes effect in Florida

Conversely, in Florida, a new near-total abortion ban that prohibits the procedure after six weeks of pregnancy has taken effect. More than four million women in Florida have lost reproductive freedoms virtually overnight due to the ban. Vice President Kamala Harris highlights Donald Trump's significant role in creating the post-Roe landscape, including the appointment of Supreme Court justices who helped overturn Roe v. Wade.

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Overturning of Roe v. Wade

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  • Roe v. Wade was a significant 1973 U.S. Supreme Court case that established a woman's constitutional right to have an abortion under the right to privacy. The ruling invalidated many state laws restricting abortion and sparked ongoing debates about the legality and morality of abortion in the United States. The case was brought by a woman using the pseudonym "Jane Roe" who challenged Texas laws prohibiting most abortions. The decision has had a lasting impact on reproductive rights and continues to influence discussions on abortion laws and policies.
  • Enshrining abortion rights in the Arizona constitution means adding explicit language to the state's constitution that guarantees the right to access abortion services. This constitutional protection would make it more difficult for future laws or regulations to restrict or ban abortion in the state. It aims to solidify and safeguard reproductive rights within the legal framework of Arizona, providing a stronger foundation for abortion access regardless of changes in federal laws or court decisions. This process typically involves a ballot initiative where voters directly decide whether to amend the state constitution to include these protections.
  • Under-resourced and minority women typically face greater challenges accessing healthcare due to factors like financial constraints, lack of insurance, and systemic barriers. These women often encounter difficulties in obtaining necessary medical services, including reproductive healthcare such as abortions. The term highlights the intersection of economic disadvantage and belonging to marginalized racial or ethnic groups. Policies an ...

Counterarguments

  • The Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade is seen by some as a restoration of states' rights, allowing each state to determine its own abortion laws.
  • Some argue that the overturning of Roe v. Wade corrects what they believe was a judicial overreach, as the Constitution does not explicitly mention abortion rights.
  • There is a perspective that laws restricting abortion protect the rights of the unborn and uphold certain moral or religious principles.
  • In Arizona, while the repeal of the near-total abortion ban is seen as progress by some, others may view it as a step away from protecting the lives of the unborn.
  • The 15-week abortion ban in Arizona, which lacks exceptions for rape or incest, may be defended on the grounds that it strikes a balance between women's rights and protecting fetal life after a certain stage of development.
  • In Florida, supporters of the near-total abortion ban might argue that it is necessary to protect the sanctity of life from the earliest stages of pregnancy.
  • The argument that the Florida ban disproportionately affects under-resourced and minority women could be countered by the claim that the law applies equally to all, and that the focus should be on providing better support and resources to these communities.
  • The impact of Florida's ban on the southeastern United States could be ...

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Donald Trump Campaigning

As Donald Trump hits the campaign trail, he is strategizing to seek support from working-class voters, focusing on economic issues and garnering backing from some union members.

Seeking support from working class voters

Donald Trump is targeting middle and working-class voters by claiming they will benefit more under his leadership than under President Biden's. He points to current economic conditions, painting a bleak picture in contrast to the situation three years ago, when he implies the country was thriving.

Claims about the economy under Biden

Trump argues that the economy is in a downturn, citing that growth has plunged by more than 50% in a recent quarter. He contrasts this with the nation's status during his tenure, suggesting that it was a "great nation" then.

Support from some union members

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  • The FEC stands for the Federal Election Commission. It is an independent regulatory agency in the United States responsible for enforcing campaign finance laws. The FEC collects and publishes data on campaign contributions and expenditures made by candidates, parties, and political action committees. This d ...

Counterarguments

  • Economic performance is multifaceted and cannot be solely attributed to the actions of a single administration; factors such as global economic trends, legislative actions by Congress, and monetary policy set by the Federal Reserve also play significant roles.
  • Economic downturns can be influenced by external factors beyond a president's control, such as pandemics, international trade disputes, or global market shifts.
  • The claim that the country was thriving three years ago may not take into account the full spectrum of economic indicators or the experiences of all demographic groups.
  • Financial backing from union members does not necessarily reflect the broader views of all unionized workers or the official positions of unions themselves.
  • Polls can be subject to sampling errors, and voter opinions on the economy can be influenced by many variables, including media coverage, personal experiences, an ...

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Efforts to Reach Young Black Voters

Efforts are underway by the Biden-Harris campaign to connect with young Black voters, especially in pivotal areas such as Georgia, amid concerns about waning enthusiasm and demands for specific reforms like cannabis and criminal justice reform.

Biden administration economic record and messaging

The campaign has included repeated visits by Vice President Harris and an upcoming engagement for President Biden at Morehouse College. During her trips, Harris has highlighted the administration's economic achievements, including historically low Black unemployment and economic policies that support career building, increasing wealth, home buying, and educational resources for children. Tangible examples like reducing and eliminating student debt, removal of lead pipes by a Black business in Milwaukee, affordable insulin, and extended age for young adults to remain on their parents' healthcare, underscore the administration's economic record. Federal funds have also been directed to Milwaukee, aiding in infrastructural improvements and public safety, although these contributions may not be immediately apparent.

The Vice President has emphasized entrepreneurship and support for minority businesses on her tours, and also spoke on student debt relief for first-time homebuyers. The tour aims to resonate with the aspirations of Black men and young Black men by meeting them at their points of need and hopes.

Concerns about lack of enthusiasm

Despite these efforts, a Wall Street Journal poll indicated lower enthusiasm among young Black male voters for the Democratic Party, with some support shown for Donald Trump. In response to questions about Black voters considering Trump, Davante Jennings believes the numbers are inflated and expresses confidence that the efforts of the Young Democrats of Georgia Black Caucus will ensure that such support does not materialize significantly.

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  • Young Black voters have been advocating for specific reforms like cannabis and criminal justice reform due to the disproportionate impact these issues have on their communities. Cannabis reform involves changing laws related to marijuana use, possession, and distribution. Criminal justice reform focuses on addressing inequalities and injustices within the legal system, such as biased policing and sentencing disparities. These reforms are seen as crucial steps towards achieving social justice and equality for Black Americans.
  • The Wall Street Journal poll mentioned in the text indicates that there is a lower level of enthusiasm among young Black male voters for the Democratic Party. This suggests that these voters may not be as excited or motivated to support the Democratic Party compared to other groups. The reasons behind this lower enthusiasm could be multifaceted and may involve various factors such as policy priorities, messaging effectiveness, or past experiences with political parties.
  • Support for Donald Trump among some young Black voters may stem from various factors, including dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party's performance on certain issues, alignment with specific policies or rhetoric of the Trump administration, or a desire for change in the political landscape. This support does not represent the entire demographic but highlights a diversity of political views within the Black community. It underscores the importance of understanding the nuanced reasons behind individual voting decisions and the need for political parties to address a wide range of concerns to appeal to all voters.
  • To resonate with younger Black voters, it's crucial to provide detailed plans and a clear mission that directly address their specific needs and concerns. This approach helps build trust and credibility by showing a genuine understanding of the challenges they face. By offering concrete solutions and tailored initiatives, political campaigns can demonstrate a commitment to making a meaningful impact on the issues that matter most to this demographic. This targeted and specific approach is more effective in engaging and mobilizing younger Black voters compared to broad, generalized appeals for support.
  • Expungement of criminal records involves the legal process of erasing or sealing a person's criminal convictions. This process varies by jurisdiction but generally aims to provide individuals with a fresh start by removing past offenses from public records. Expectations of further steps like expungements of criminal records suggest that there may be plans to expand or enhance exist ...

Counterarguments

  • The efforts to connect with young Black voters may be perceived as too little, too late if the community feels that the administration has not been proactive enough throughout its term.
  • Highlighting economic achievements may not resonate with all young Black voters, especially if they are facing systemic issues that are not addressed by broad economic indicators like unemployment rates.
  • The focus on entrepreneurship and support for minority businesses might not address the immediate concerns of those who are not entrepreneurs or business owners.
  • The use of specific examples like reducing student debt and affordable insulin may not be seen as comprehensive solutions to the systemic issues faced by the Black community.
  • Directing federal funds to infrastructural improvements and public safety in Milwaukee could be criticized if similar efforts are not made in other communities in need.
  • The campaign's aim to resonate with the aspirations of Black men and young Black men might be seen as overlooking the specific needs and voices of Black women and other marginalized groups within the Black community.
  • The Wall Street Journal poll indicating lower enthusiasm among young Black male voters for the Democratic Party could suggest that the party's messaging and policies are not fully aligning with the priorities of this demographic.
  • The support for Donald Trump among some young Black voters could be indicative of a desire for alternative approaches to policy and leadership that are not being offered by the current administration.
  • The necessity for de ...

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