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It’s Only Tuesday

By Rachel Maddow

This podcast episode covers key developments in the legal cases surrounding Donald Trump. The summary delves into Judge Marchand's ruling on Trump's alleged gag order violations, clarifying the scope of the order and potential consequences for future infractions.

It also examines notable testimony from figures like David Pecker, who admitted to the true purpose behind the catch-and-kill schemes involving Trump. The episode summary touches on revelations from Trump associate testimonies related to the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case, contradicting claims of ignorance regarding the handling of sensitive materials.

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Judge Marchand's Ruling on Gag Order Violations

Judge Marchand rejected Donald Trump's defense that reposts on social media don't count as his statements, clarifying that his accounts represent his views, as Sanger-Katz reports. The judge ruled most of the alleged violations stood, except for one post about Michael Avenatti.

While recognizing Trump's First Amendment rights, the judge emphasized protecting the administration of justice and witnesses. He warned both Trump and witnesses about improperly using the gag order, stating the court will scrutinize future violations and consider incarceratory punishment if needed.

Testimony of Pecker, Graff, and Farrow

Pecker Admits Catch-and-Kill Scheme's True Purpose

David Pecker acknowledged under redirect that he didn't disclose to AMI's lawyers the private Trump agreement or catch-and-kill schemes' real intention, as Weissmann notes. This undermined the defense's argument that the lawyers approved the dealings as legal.

Graff Confirms Trump Records Had McDougal, Daniels Info

Trump's assistant Rona Graff verified the Trump Organization's records included contact details for Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels.

Farrow: Cohen Lied About Essential Consulting

Banker Gary Farrow testified that Michael Cohen misrepresented the purpose of his Essential Consulting shell company used to pay Stormy Daniels, lying it was for real estate consulting.

Mar-a-Lago Case Updates

Nada's Testimony Contradicts Ignorance Claim

Trump valet Walt Nada's unsealed grand jury testimony shows he knew about moving boxes around Mar-a-Lago, contradicting claims of ignorance about their classified contents, as Weissmann and McCord discuss. Nada's text messages indicate involvement in handling the materials.

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Clarifications

  • AMI stands for American Media, Inc. It is a media company known for publishing tabloid magazines like the National Enquirer. In the context of the text, AMI's involvement relates to their practices regarding agreements and catch-and-kill schemes involving stories about public figures like Donald Trump. David Pecker, a key figure in AMI, is mentioned in the text in connection with these practices.
  • Essential Consulting was a shell company established by Michael Cohen, former lawyer for Donald Trump. Cohen used this company to make a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, an adult film actress, as part of a hush money agreement to keep her alleged affair with Trump secret. The purpose of Essential Consulting was misrepresented by Cohen, who claimed it was for real estate consulting when, in reality, it was used for the payment to Daniels. This payment was a key element in the legal proceedings and investigations surrounding Trump and his associates.
  • Mar-a-Lago is a resort and National Historic Landmark in Palm Beach, Florida, owned by former U.S. president Donald Trump. It was originally built for Marjorie Merriweather Post in the 1920s and later acquired by Trump in 1985. Trump converted it into the Mar-a-Lago Club, a members-only club with various amenities, and used it as a residence and for official functions during his presidency.
  • A grand jury is a group of citizens that investigates potential criminal conduct and decides if criminal charges should be brought. They can subpoena evidence and witnesses to testify. Grand juries have both investigatory and accusatory functions in the legal process.

Counterarguments

  • The definition of what constitutes a personal statement on social media can be legally complex, and there may be room for debate on whether reposts should be treated as endorsements or original statements.
  • The exclusion of the post about Michael Avenatti from the gag order violations could be argued to set a precedent that not all social media activity is necessarily a violation, which could be used to challenge other alleged violations.
  • The balance between First Amendment rights and the protection of the administration of justice is a nuanced legal issue, and there may be differing opinions on where that line should be drawn.
  • The effectiveness and appropriateness of gag orders themselves can be debated, with some arguing that they can be overly restrictive or not tailored narrowly enough to protect free speech.
  • The admission by David Pecker could be seen as a personal acknowledgment that may not necessarily implicate others or prove broader wrongdoing without additional corroborating evidence.
  • The confirmation of records by Rona Graff establishes a connection but does not, by itself, prove any illegal activity or wrongdoing.
  • Testimony about misrepresentations made by Michael Cohen regarding Essential Consulting could be challenged on the basis of the credibility of the witness or the context of the statements made.
  • Walt Nada's testimony and text messages may be open to interpretation, and there could be alternative explanations for his actions that do not imply knowledge of wrongdoing.
  • The handling of materials at Mar-a-Lago by Walt Nada could be argued to be part of his duties as a valet, and without clear evidence of intent to mishandle classified information, the implications of his actions could be contested.

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Judge Marchand's contempt ruling

DA alleged 10 violations of gag order

Judge Marchand addressed the allegations of 10 violations of the gag order by Donald Trump put forward by the district attorney.

Judge rejects Trump's defense that reposts don't count as his statements

Firstly, the judge rejected the defense presented by Donald Trump that reposts on social media do not count as his own statements. Judge Marchand clarified that Trump's True Social account and official campaign website represent his opinions and views, and they are not open forums for others' content. Emphasizing that Trump curated the posts and took steps to publish them with the intent to maximize viewership, the judge ruled that these actions communicate approval and are considered his statements.

Moreover, the judge found that the rapid and wide spread of posts on True Social, which Trump has himself claimed, supports the decision that these posts represent his statements. The argument that Trump's social media posts were merely responses to political attacks did not stand since not every post could directly be connected to a political attack. The exception was one concerning a post about Michael Avenatti, which the court did not find in violation of the gag order.

Judge warns both Trump and witnesses about improper use of gag order

The court recognized Trump's First Amendment rights, particularly significant considering his presidential candidacy, which requires him to be able to campaign freely. Nonetheless, the judge also emphasized the necessity to protect the administration of justice and witnesses.

The judge mentioned that the gag order should not be used as a sword by potential witnesses to attack Trump without facing repercussions. An example ...

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Judge Marchand's contempt ruling

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Clarifications

  • A gag order is a legal directive that restricts parties involved in a case from discussing certain aspects of the case publicly. In this context, the gag order was imposed on Donald Trump to prevent him from making statements that could influence the legal proceedings. Violating a gag order can lead to serious consequences, including contempt of court charges and potential punishments like fines or even imprisonment. The judge's ruling clarifies the boundaries of what constitutes a violation of the gag order and emphasizes the importance of upholding such orders to ensure a fair legal process.
  • Trump's True Social account is a social media platform created by Donald Trump. On this platform, Trump shares his opinions and views through curated posts. The judge ruled that the content posted on True Social by Trump is considered his statements, as he actively publishes and promotes these posts to reach a wide audience.
  • Michael Avenatti is an American former attorney known for representing Stormy Daniels in legal cases against Donald Trump. He has faced legal troubles himself, including convictions for extortion and fraud, leading to his incarceration. The reference to Avenatti in the text may indicate a specific post related to him that was not considered a violation of the gag order.
  • Michael Cohen is a former lawyer for Donald Trump who became a key figure in legal matters involving Trump. In this context, Cohen's involvement suggests that he may have been a potential witness or party affected by the gag order. His counsel's actions, such as announcing Cohen's decision to refrain from further public comment, indicate a strategic response to the evolving terms of the gag order and potential consequences for violating it. Cohen's past public statements and actions related to Trump could have influenced the court's considerations regarding the proper use of the gag order.
  • The "willfulness of claimed violations of the gag order" refers to whether the actions that allegedly violated the gag order were intentional or deliberate. The court will assess if the individual knowingly disregarded the rest ...

Counterarguments

  • The definition of what constitutes a personal statement on social media, especially for public figures, can be complex and may warrant further legal scrutiny and clarification.
  • The effectiveness and scope of gag orders in the digital age, where information spreads rapidly and uncontrollably, could be questioned.
  • The balance between protecting the administration of justice and upholding First Amendment rights is delicate and may require ongoing evaluation to ensure neither is disproportionately compromised.
  • The role of intent in reposting content on social media as an endorsement or statement could be debated, as intent can be challenging to ascertain.
  • The potential for gag orders to be used strategically by either party in a legal dispute to gain an advantage or silence the other side might be a concern that requires attention.
  • The warning to both Trump and witnesses about the improper use of the gag order could be seen as an acknowledgment that the gag order itself may have limitations or could be prone to misuse.
  • The threat of incarceratory punishment for violations of the gag order might be criticized as too severe, potential ...

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Testimony of David Pecker, Rona Graff, and Gary Farrow

Last week's testimony in the legal proceedings against Michael Cohen and his associates saw significant contributions from David Pecker, Rona Graff, and Gary Farrow.

Pecker cross-examination and redirect

During the morning and afternoon sessions, David Pecker, the head of American media, underwent a rigorous cross-examination by Emile Bove, the defense lawyer.

The defense aimed to demonstrate that the catch-and-kill agreements between AMI and Karen McDougall, as well as the non-prosecution agreement made with the Southern District of New York, were legal and approved by outside and in-house lawyers for AMI, including general counsel Cam Stracker. They argued that there had been no admission of a campaign violation in these agreements.

Prosecutor gets Pecker to admit lawyers didn't know real purpose

However, during the redirect, which was described as "pretty sensational," the prosecutor was able to get Pecker to admit that he had not disclosed to his lawyers the private agreement he had with Donald Trump, nor the true intention behind their catch-and-kill operations. Pecker’s admission that the agreements were not made with full transparency to the lawyers implies that they weren't aware of the catch-and-kill scheme's actual purposes.

Moreover, when Pecker was questioned about the FEC conciliation agreement, he confirmed that there was no admission of liability for campaign finance violations. Andrew Weissmann found Pecker's testimony to be particularly damaging as it revealed lawyers were not fully informed about the catch-and-kill scheme's real intent.

References to Michael Cohen's ties to Stormy Daniels' lawyer

Pecker also acknowledged his knowledge of Michael Cohen's personal relationship with Keith Davidson, Stormy Daniels’ lawyer. While he wasn't aware of any side deals, Pecker's testimony suggested the possibility of a private arrangement between Cohen and Davidson regarding Cohen's reimbursement and the money taken out against his home equity line.

Highlights from testimony of Trump's assistant Rona Graff

Confirms Trump Org records included contact info for McDougal and Daniels

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Testimony of David Pecker, Rona Graff, and Gary Farrow

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Clarifications

  • Catch-and-kill agreements are arrangements where a media outlet buys the rights to a story but never publishes it, effectively burying the information. This practice is often used to prevent damaging stories from coming to light. It involves the purchase of exclusive rights to a story with the intention of suppressing its publication.
  • AMI stands for American Media, Inc. It is a publishing company known for its tabloid magazines like the National Enquirer. AMI has been involved in various high-profile stories and legal controversies over the years. In the context of the text, David Pecker, the head of AMI, played a significant role in the legal proceedings discussed. AMI's involvement in catch-and-kill agreements and its connections to individuals like Donald Trump and Michael Cohen were key points in the testimony.
  • A non-prosecution agreement with the Southern District of New York is a legal arrangement where prosecutors agree not to pursue criminal charges against a defendant in exchange for certain conditions, such as cooperation in an investigation or meeting specific requirements. It is a tool used by prosecutors to incentivize cooperation and gather information without the immediate threat of prosecution. This agreement does not necessarily mean the defendant is innocent but rather that they have met the terms set forth in the agreement to avoid prosecution. It is a common strategy in complex legal cases to secure valuable information or testimony.
  • The FEC conciliation agreement is a settlement between a party and the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to resolve alleged violations of campaign finance laws. It typically involves the party agreeing to take corrective actions or pay fines without admitting guilt. These agreements aim to resolve disputes efficiently without the need for lengthy litigation. In the context of the text, David Pecker's confirmation that there was no admission of liability for campaign finance violations in the FEC conciliation agreement suggests that no wrongdoing was officially acknowledged in that specific agreement.
  • Keith Davidson is an attorney who represented Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal in negotiating settlements related to their alleged affairs with Donald Trump. He was involved in ar ...

Counterarguments

  • The defense's argument that the catch-and-kill agreements were legal does not necessarily mean they were ethical or in the public interest.
  • The fact that lawyers approved the agreements might not absolve the parties involved if the lawyers were not fully informed of the true intentions behind the agreements.
  • Pecker's admission that lawyers were not fully informed could be seen as an indication of potential misconduct rather than a straightforward legal defense.
  • The absence of an admission of liability for campaign finance violations in the FEC conciliation agreement does not equate to a declaration of innocence or compliance with campaign finance laws.
  • Acknowledging a relationship between Cohen and Stormy Daniels' lawyer does not inherently imply wrongdoing or collusion between the parties.
  • Rona Graff's management ...

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New developments in Mar-a-Lago case

The release of the grand jury testimony of Trump valet Walt Nada before the search warrant execution at Mar-a-Lago offers new insights into the handling of boxes allegedly containing classified documents.

Release of Trump valet Walt Nada's past grand jury testimony

Nada denies knowing what was in boxes he allegedly hid

Walt Nada testified before a grand jury in Washington, D.C., prior to the exposure of the Mar-a-Lago case, related to motions filed to dismiss his indictment. He stands accused of obstruction of justice for purportedly moving boxes of classified documents and attempting to destroy surveillance videos at Mar-a-Lago. In his defense, Nada claimed that he was unaware of the contents of the boxes he had moved.

Testimony shows Nada knew of many boxes moved around Mar-a-Lago

Andrew Weissmann discussed the unsealing of Nada’s grand jury testimony, which appears to contradict his earlier statements to the FBI about the boxes. Despite asserting he was ignorant of their contents, text messages cited in the indictment show he was involved in moving them. N ...

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  • The Mar-a-Lago case involves allegations of obstruction of justice against Trump valet Walt Nada for moving boxes of classified documents and attempting to destroy surveillance videos at Mar-a-Lago. The case centers on Nada's actions regarding these boxes and his knowledge of their contents, which has become a point of contention in the legal proceedings. The release of Nada's grand jury testimony sheds light on his involvement in handling the boxes and his claims of ignorance about their contents. The case has drawn attention due to the potential implications for understanding the handling of sensitive materials at Mar-a-Lago.
  • Walt Nada is accused of obstruction of justice for allegedly moving boxes of classified documents and attempting to destroy surveillance videos at Mar-a-Lago. He claims he did not know the contents of the boxes he handled, stating they contained non-sensitive items like newspapers, hats, and t-shirts. However, evidence suggests he was aware of the boxes' contents and their significance, contradicting his initial statements. Nada's defense is challenged by the assertion that he was involved in moving numerous boxes around Mar-a-Lago, some of which were transferred to Trump's offices and residence.
  • The grand jury testimony is significant as it provides a legal platform for witnesses to present their accounts under oath, aiding prosecutors in determining whether to proceed with charges. It is a confidential process where witnesses testify without the presence of the accused, ensuring impartiality. Testimonies can influence the direction of a case, either strengthening or weakening the prosecution's arguments. Grand jury proceedings are crucial in establishing probable cause for indictments and are a standard procedure in many criminal investigations.
  • Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord are both well-known figures in the legal world. Andrew Weissma ...

Counterarguments

  • Nada's lack of knowledge about the contents could be plausible if he was not responsible for packing or labeling the boxes.
  • The contradiction between Nada's grand jury testimony and his statements to the FBI could be due to misinterpretation or miscommunication rather than an intentional falsehood.
  • Involvement in moving boxes does not necessarily imply knowledge of their contents, especially if Nada was following orders without being briefed on the specifics.
  • The presence of non-sensitive items in some boxes does not preclude the possibility that other boxes contained sensitive materials, but it also doesn't confirm it.
  • Acknowledging the presence of many boxes does not inherently mean that Nada kne ...

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