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BONUS: The Stakes of Immigration with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

By Rachel Maddow

This episode delves into the challenges surrounding legal immigration to the United States and the changing dynamics at the southern border. It examines the Trump administration's restrictive policies, which weaponized bureaucracy against immigrants and created widespread backlogs in processing legal applications. The episode also explores the administration's aggressive deterrence measures, such as family separations and agreements with Mexico, aimed at reducing border crossings.

The discussion further extends to the Biden administration's continuation of key Trump-era policies like Title 42. It highlights the complex factors driving immigration patterns and the need for comprehensive reform to address systemic inefficiencies in managing border arrivals and processing asylum requests. The episode provides insights into the bipartisan efforts to update immigration laws and the political obstacles hindering meaningful change.

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BONUS: The Stakes of Immigration with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

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The Trump administration enacted policies that significantly restricted legal immigration, favoring certain nationalities and weaponizing bureaucracy against applicants. Visa issuance constantly dropped as a result of hiring freezes at USCIS, leaving the agency understaffed. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick criticized the administration for policies such as the "no blank spaces policy," which led to the denial of applications for minor errors. Additionally, the Trump administration targeted legal immigration with bans, including the Muslim ban, and pushed policies that ostensibly acted as wealth tests for entry. The preference for immigrants from countries like Norway over places like Haiti was indicative of the administration's bias. The backlog and difficulties for legal immigration to the U.S. were likened to the restrictive policies of the past that favored national origin, with the system struggling under antiquated and biased policies.

Trump administration attempts to deter border crossings

Aggressive measures were implemented by the Trump administration to deter migrants, such as family separation and negotiations with Mexico. The family separation policy, intended to act as a deterrent by prosecuting parents and separating them from their children, failed and led to an increase in families arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border. Meanwhile, Mexico's enforcement actions, motivated by the Trump administration's tariff threats, briefly reduced migrant arrivals. Despite these efforts, and additional agreements with Central American countries, migrant crossings remained at a 20-year high before the pandemic, suggesting the need for more complex solutions to immigration beyond mere deterrence.

Biden's continuation of key Trump border policies like Title 42

President Biden has continued enforcing Title 42, a policy from the Trump era, in spite of having rolled back other policies like Remain in Mexico. Title 42 was broadened to include several nationalities, while the third-party agreements were revoked. Experts argue that factors driving border crossings are complex and that policy changes alone do not account for the increase in border arrivals. The change in demographics and the nature of border crossings indicate a shift towards individuals seeking humanitarian protection. The southern border system's inefficiencies, unable to keep pace with the high volume of individuals seeking asylum, suggests an overarching need for reform in how legal immigration is processed.

Bipartisan Senate attempt at updating law on resources and asylum process

Acknowledging a decades-long lack of comprehensive legislative updates, a bipartisan Senate group aimed to address the systemic issues plaguing the U.S. immigration system, ranging from humane screening to managing border crossings. Despite this endeavor towards bipartisan reform, former President Trump opposed the bill, reportedly to maintain border disorder for political gain, and House Republicans blocked the proposal. The failure of this initiative due to political obstruction highlights the challenges faced in updating and humanizing the U.S. immigration system.

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  • The "no blank spaces policy" was a rule under the Trump administration that required immigration forms to be filled out completely without any blank spaces. Even minor errors or missing information, like a blank space, could lead to the denial of an application. This policy was criticized for being overly strict and contributing to the denial of applications for trivial reasons. It was seen as part of the broader efforts to restrict legal immigration during that time.
  • Title 42 is a public health provision that allows the U.S. government to quickly expel individuals at the border during public health emergencies, like the COVID-19 pandemic. It has been used to justify the rapid expulsion of migrants without standard immigration proceedings. This policy has been controversial due to concerns about its impact on asylum seekers and human rights.
  • The Remain in Mexico policy, officially known as the Migrant Protection Protocols, required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until their U.S. immigration court date. It was implemented in 2019 under the Trump administration and faced legal challenges during the Biden administration. The policy was criticized for exposing migrants to risks while awaiting processing in Mexico.
  • Border disorder, in the context of the text, refers to a situation where there is chaos or lack of control at the border, often due to a high volume of migrants crossing irregularly or challenges in managing border security effectively. It implies a state of confusion or instability in the border region, impacting immigration processes and enforcement efforts. The term highlights the difficulties faced in maintaining order and control at the border, leading to challenges in addressing immigration issues comprehensively. The concept underscores the need for effective policies and systems to manage border activities and immigration flows efficiently.
  • The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is a government agency responsible for overseeing lawful immigration to the United States. USCIS processes applications for visas, green cards, and citizenship, among other immigration-related services. It plays a crucial role in implementing immigration policies and regulations set by the U.S. government. USCIS also conducts background checks, interviews, and other procedures to determine eligibility for various immigration benefits.
  • Antiquated and biased policies in the context of legal immigration refer to outdated and discriminatory rules and practices that favor certain nationalities over others, reflecting historical biases and preferences. These policies can hinder the fair and efficient processing of immigration applications, perpetuating inequalities and injustices within the immigration system. The term highlights the need for modernization and reform to create a more equitable and inclusive immigration process. Such policies can lead to delays, backlogs, and arbitrary decision-making, impacting individuals' opportunities to legally immigrate to the United States.
  • Complex solutions to immigration beyond mere deterrence involve addressing the root causes of migration, such as poverty, violence, and lack of opportunities in migrants' home countries. This approach focuses on long-term strategies like economic development, humanitarian aid, and diplomacy to create conditions that reduce the need for people to leave their homes. It also includes reforms to the legal immigration system to provide more pathways for migrants to enter the country legally and safely. By looking at the broader context of migration and implementing multifaceted approaches, policymakers aim to create a more sustainable and humane immigration system.
  • The systemic issues plaguing the U.S. immigration system encompass challenges like outdated policies favoring certain nationalities, bureaucratic hurdles leading to backlogs, and insufficient resources for processing legal immigration. These issues also include controversial practices like family separation at the border, which have faced criticism for their humanitarian impact. Additionally, the system struggles to adapt to changing demographics and evolving reasons for migration, such as increased numbers of individuals seeking humanitarian protection. Efforts to reform the system face obstacles like political opposition and the need for comprehensive legislative updates to address these complex and interconnected issues.

Counterarguments

  • The Trump administration's policies may have been intended to prioritize national security and ensure that immigration is managed in a way that is sustainable and beneficial for the country.
  • Hiring freezes at USCIS could be seen as a measure to control government spending and increase efficiency within the agency.
  • The "no blank spaces policy" might be justified as a means to ensure completeness and accuracy in the application process, which is important for proper vetting.
  • The travel bans, including the so-called Muslim ban, were defended by the administration as necessary for national security, and the Supreme Court ultimately upheld a version of the ban.
  • The preference for immigrants from certain countries could be argued as an attempt to attract individuals with specific skills or to foster certain bilateral relations.
  • Measures to deter illegal border crossings, such as family separation, could be argued as a means to uphold the rule of law and discourage illegal entry, which is a sovereign right of any nation.
  • The continuation of Title 42 under the Biden administration might be seen as a recognition of the ongoing public health concerns and the need to control the spread of infectious diseases.
  • The bipartisan Senate attempt at updating immigration law, while facing opposition, could be seen as part of the normal legislative process where different viewpoints are debated and not all proposals pass.
  • The high number of migrant crossings could be attributed to push factors in home countries, such as violence and poverty, rather than solely the pull factors of U.S. policy.
  • The complexity of immigration issues means that no single administration or policy is likely to fully address the challenges, and criticism may overlook the broader context of global migration trends.

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BONUS: The Stakes of Immigration with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Trump administration's restrictions on legal immigration

During the Trump administration, legal immigration saw significant restrictions and a shift towards policies that favored certain nationalities while weaponizing bureaucracy to deny applications.

Bureaucracy weaponized to deny applications over minor issues

Visa issuance fell each year under the Trump administration. During this period, USCIS experienced a hiring freeze that left the agency with about a thousand fewer adjudicators. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick described the legal immigration system as less accessible due to administrative policies, such as the "no blank spaces policy," which mandated the denial of applications over minor issues like failing to fill in irrelevant blank boxes with "N/A." Even minor oversights, such as omitting an apartment number when the applicant lived in a house, resulted in application denials.

When President Biden took office, the system was likened to a "cruise ship that was on fire and listing" by Reichlin-Melnick. Although issues such as a massive backlog were exacerbated by, but not exclusively the result of, the Trump administration's policies, they were heavily affected by COVID-19 which further hindered the system's operations.

Explicit goals to reduce numbers and favor certain nationalities

The Trump administration implemented bans targeted at wide swaths of legal immigration, such as the Muslim ban, which covered several Muslim-majority countries, Venezuela, and North Korea. They also proposed bans targeting immigrants unable to prove health insurance coverage, equating to a wealth test for U.S. entry. Additionally, diversity visa programs were obstructed, and numerous travel bans were issued.

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Trump administration's restrictions on legal immigration

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  • The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is a government agency responsible for overseeing lawful immigration to the United States. USCIS processes applications for visas, green cards, and citizenship, among other immigration-related services. It plays a crucial role in implementing immigration policies set by the U.S. government.
  • The "no blank spaces policy" mandated that applications must be filled out completely without any empty spaces, even if the information was not relevant. Failure to fill in every section, including irrelevant ones, could lead to the denial of the application. This policy was criticized for being overly strict and causing denials over minor issues like not providing information in areas that were not applicable to the applicant.
  • The Diversity Visa program, also known as the green card lottery, is a U.S. government initiative that grants permanent residency to individuals from countries with low immigration rates to the U.S. It aims to diversify the immigrant population by offering 55,000 visas annually through a random selection process. Applicants must meet eligibility criteria and are chosen at random, with only selected individuals progressing to the next steps in the immigration process. Attempts to end the program have been made since 2005.
  • The 1924 Act, also known as the Immigration Act of 1924 or the Johnson-Reed Act, was a U.S. law that established strict quotas on the number of immigrants allowed entry into the country based on their nationality. It aimed to restrict immigration from Southern and Eastern European countries, as well as Asia, while favoring immigrants from Northern and Western European countries. The Act was driven by nativist and xenophobic sentime ...

Counterarguments

  • The hiring freeze at USCIS could be seen as a measure to control government spending and increase efficiency within the agency.
  • The "no blank spaces policy" might have been intended to ensure completeness and accuracy in application processing, which is critical for national security and immigration control.
  • The accessibility of the legal immigration system could be argued to have been a move to prioritize national security and the integrity of the immigration process.
  • The backlog in the immigration system may have been due to a variety of factors, including increased scrutiny of applications to enhance security, not solely the policies of the Trump administration.
  • The travel bans, including the so-called Muslim ban, were defended as necessary for national security and were not exclusively targeting Muslims, as countries like Venezuela and North Korea were also included.
  • The health insurance requirement for immigrants could be argued as a way to ensure that new arrivals would not be a financial burden on the U.S. healthcare system.
  • The Trump administration's stance on immigration could be viewed as an attempt to prioritize skilled immig ...

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Trump administration attempts to deter border crossings

The Trump administration took aggressive measures to deter migrants from entering the United States, with policies that included family separation and negotiations with Mexico. Despite efforts, crossings were still at a 20-year high pre-COVID.

Family separation as failed deterrence tactic

The government implemented a child separation policy under the pretext of deterring families from coming to the U.S.-Mexico border. They prosecuted parents for illegal entry, treating children as unaccompanied minors under different laws. This measure was intended to prevent re-entry by punishing parents and deterring future migrants.

However, the policy faced national and international uproar due to the lack of a reunification process, resulting in thousands of parents being separated from their children without a system to track or reunite them. Despite the severity of the measure, it did not effectively impact border crossings, and arrivals of family units spiked immediately after President Trump publicly renounced the practice. The family separation policy not only failed as a deterrence but also may have incentivized more people to cross the border, as evidenced by the increase in family unit arrivals following the policy's cessation.

Gene Hamilton, an architect of the family separation policy, referenced the policy as a deterrence tactic, but there is no evidence to suggest that tactics involving harm and cruelty are effective in deterring migration.

Negotiations with Mexico most effective border policy

Despite not being detailed in the provided content, the Trump administration's interactions with Mexico did indeed play a role in migration patterns. The administration used threats of tariffs as a negotiation tool to compel Mexico to act on curbing migration. Migrant arrivals kept increasing every month in spite of various deterrents, including the shutdown of the U.S. government and the declaration of a national emergency.

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  • The Trump administration signed agreements with countries like Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras to establish asylum cooperation and address migration issues. These agreements aimed to allow the U.S. to send certain asylum seekers to these countries to seek protection there instead. However, the effectiveness of these agreements in reducing border crossings was limited, as crossings remained high despite these efforts. The agreements were part of a broader strategy to shift the burden of processing asylum claims away from the U.S. border.
  • The Remain in Mexico policy, officially known as the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP), required asylum seekers at the U.S.-Mexico border to wait in Mexico for their immigration court hearings in the U.S. This policy aimed to discourage migrants from entering the U.S. and to address the backlog of asylum cases. Implemented by the Trump administration, it faced criticism for exposing migrants to dangerous conditions in Mexico while awaiting their legal proceedings.
  • The Trump administration implemented various policies to deter border crossi ...

Counterarguments

  • The effectiveness of family separation as a deterrent may not be measurable solely by the number of crossings, as it could have had a psychological impact on potential migrants that is difficult to quantify.
  • The increase in family unit arrivals after the cessation of the family separation policy could be attributed to other factors, such as changes in push factors in home countries or misinformation about U.S. immigration policies.
  • The use of tariffs as a negotiation tool with Mexico could be seen as a legitimate use of economic leverage to achieve national security objectives, including border control.
  • The deployment of the National Guard by Mexico and the subsequent drop in migrant arrivals could be interpreted as evidence that international cooperation and pressure can lead to effective border management.
  • The agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras, known as Asylum Cooperative Agreements, could be argued to have laid the groundwork for a more regional approach to migration, which might take longer to show results in terms of reduced crossings.
  • The assertion that ...

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Biden's continuation of key Trump border policies like Title 42

Even in the wake of the Biden administration rolling back policies like Remain in Mexico, it continues to enforce Title 42, a policy initially established under former President Trump.

Alongside some rolled back policies like Remain in Mexico

The Biden administration made a deal with Mexico in October 2022 allowing for the expulsion of migrants under Title 42—a policy which was expanded in January 2023 to include Cubans, Haitians, and Nicaraguans. The Biden administration has revoked policies such as the third-party agreements and the Remain in Mexico program.

The guest highlights that the idea that ending the asylum cooperative agreements under Biden caused a spike in border crossings is inaccurate since they were not fully in effect. The discussions emphasize that factors driving border crossings are multifaceted, and not solely dependent on policy changes.

Factors driving border crossings more complex than policy changes

Aaron Reichlin-Melnick points out that the nature of border crossings has evolved, with more individuals currently turning themselves in to access humanitarian protections instead of evading arrest, which was typical in the past. He notes a demographic shift from mostly Mexican nationals to a more diverse group, including individuals from across the globe.

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  • Title 42 is a U.S. policy that allows for the expulsion of individuals who may pose a health risk due to being in a country with a communicable disease. It was used during the COVID-19 pandemic to block entry for migrants. The policy enables immediate expulsion of individuals to their country of last transit or origin to mitigate health risks. Expulsions under Title 42 are not based on immigration status and are separate from regular immigration processes.
  • The Remain in Mexico program, officially known as the Migrant Protection Protocols, required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until their U.S. immigration court date. Initially implemented in 2019 under President Trump, it was ended by the Biden administration but faced legal challenges. The policy aimed to address the processing of asylum claims at the U.S.-Mexico border, but it received criticism for exposing migrants to risks while awaiting their court proceedings.
  • Asylum cooperative agreements under Biden were agreements with countries like El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, where asylum seekers could be sent to those countries to seek asylum instead of the U.S. This policy aimed to reduce the number of asylum seekers arriving at the U.S. border. Biden's administration ended these agreements as part of its efforts to change immigration policies.
  • Factors driving border crossings are varied and complex, influenced by a combination of push and pull factors. These factors can include economic opportunities, political instability, violence, persecution, family reunification, and access to asylum protections. Changes in U.S. immigration policies, global conditions, demographic shifts, and the challenges in legal immigration pathways also play a role in shaping migration patterns. The decision to cross borders is often a result of a combination of individual circumstances, policy environments, and broader socio-economic and political dynamics.
  • The demographic shift at the border refers to a change in the composition of individuals crossing the U.S. border. In the past, the majority of border crossers were Mexican nationals, but now there is a more diverse group coming from various countries worldwide. This shift highlights a broader range of nationalities and backgrounds among those seeking entry into the United States. The evolving demographics at the border impact policies and practices related to immigration and asylum.
  • The U.S. southern border infrastructure and processes were primarily set up to handle traditional border security and limited legal immigration flows, not the current high volume of individuals seeking asylum and legal entry. The surge in asylum seekers has strained the existing system's capacity to efficiently process and manage the increasing numbers of people arriving at the border. This mismatch between the system's design and the current demand for legal immigration pathways has led to challenges in effectively addressing the needs of those seeking asylum and legal entry at the southern border. The complexities of the situation highlight the need for comprehensive reforms to better align the border system with the evolving patterns of migration and legal immigration.
  • Legal immigration becoming harder to access means that the processes and requirements for entering a country through legal channels, such as ...

Counterarguments

  • Title 42 may be seen as a necessary public health measure by some, arguing that it helps control the spread of infectious diseases during a pandemic.
  • The expansion of Title 42 to include more nationalities could be defended on the grounds of maintaining a consistent immigration policy across different groups.
  • Some may argue that the revocation of third-party agreements and the Remain in Mexico program could have indirect effects on border crossings by altering perceptions of U.S. immigration policy.
  • Critics might suggest that the increase in individuals turning themselves in for humanitarian protections could be a result of perceived leniency in immigration enforcement under the current administration.
  • There could be an argument that the demographic shift at the border is a result of specific foreign policy decisions or regional developments, not just global conditions.
  • It might be contended that the U.S. immigration system, including the asylum process, needs reform to better handle the volume and diversity of modern migration flows.
  • Some may argue that the challenges at the border are exacerbated by U.S. domestic policies that fail to address the root causes of migration, such as economic inequality and violence in home countries.
  • Others might assert that while global conditions play a role, U.S. policies can significantly influence migration patterns and should b ...

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Bipartisan Senate attempt at updating law on resources and asylum process

Aaron Reichlin-Melnick highlights that the U.S. legal immigration system has not seen comprehensive legislative updates since 1990, showcasing an extensive period without significant Congressional action.

Goals ranged from humane screening to zero crossings

A bipartisan Senate group recognized the complexity of immigration issues and worked toward addressing the systemic problems linked to resources and the asylum process.

Rejected by Trump and blocked by House Republicans

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Bipartisan Senate attempt at updating law on resources and asylum process

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  • Former President Donald Trump opposed the bill because he believed maintaining disorder at the border could provide him with political leverage. He saw the proposed updates as a threat to his agenda and preferred a stance that aligned with his administration's immigration policies. Trump's opposition was rooted in his strategy to capitalize on the border situation for his political advantage.
  • The proposed updates to the U.S. immigration system faced political roadblocks primarily due to opposition from former President Donald Trump, who aimed to use border issues for political advantage. House Republicans also blocked the bill, aligning with Trump's stance and preventing its progress. These p ...

Counterarguments

  • The U.S. legal immigration system may not have been comprehensively updated since 1990, but there have been significant policy changes and executive actions that have impacted the system.
  • While a bipartisan Senate group aimed to address systemic problems, it could be argued that their approach may not have fully accounted for the diverse opinions and concerns of all stakeholders.
  • The assertion that former President Donald Trump opposed the proposed updates to maintain disorder at the border for political leverage is a perspective that assumes intent; an alternative view could be that he had genuine policy disagreements with the proposed changes.
  • The updates being blocked by House Republicans could be seen not just as political roadblocks but as a reflection of legitimate policy concerns or differing visions for immigration reform.
  • The goal of a nuanced solution is ...

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