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A Flurry of Motions

By Rachel Maddow

Step into the world of legal strategy and the shadowy dance of high-profile court cases with the "Rachel Maddow Presents: Déjà News" podcast, featuring experts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord. This thrilling episode unravels a series of motions poised to redefine the bounds of presidential privilege and the quest for an impartial judiciary. As Donald Trump's legal team skillfully maneuvers to quash the Mar-a-Lago charges, they invoke presidential immunity and the right to privatize records, sparking a fiery debate on the interpretation of the Presidential Records Act.

The episode further dissects the intricate motions filed within the New York case, illustrating the delicate balance between safeguarding juror well-being and maintaining the sanctity of trial integrity. With the threat of seizures looming over unpaid judgments, Trump's lawyers skillfully employ appeals for stays while unearthing the nuances of personal relationships that may sway legal outcomes in the Georgia case. Weissmann and McCord walk us through each judicial skirmish with precision, offering listeners a behind-the-scenes look at the legal chess game playing out in the American courtrooms.

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A Flurry of Motions

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Motions to Dismiss Mar-a-Lago Case

Donald Trump's legal team asserts that his actions are covered by presidential immunity and the Presidential Records Act, aiming to dismiss the charges related to the handling of classified documents after his presidency. They suggest that Trump had the right to declare records as personal and are challenging the legitimacy of the indictment based on this premise.

Motions in New York Case

The New York case sees motions filed for juror safety and anonymity, limited gag orders to protect witness identities, and strict evidence management. There is a significant emphasis on maintaining a fair and impartial trial process, with motions to regulate what evidence is permissible and to prevent undue influence on the jury.

Appeal and Potential Stay of Civil Judgments

Trump can forestall payment of a judgment by posting a bond or achieving a stay; otherwise, asset seizure may follow. An appellate court might grant a stay without bond, but this isn't guaranteed.

Testimony in Georgia Case Regarding Prosecutor's Relationship

Questions arise about the relationship between prosecutor Mr. Wade and Fannie Willis, with the defense probing the timing and evidence such as cell phone records that could indicate when the relationship began and the credibility of both parties.

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  • Presidential immunity is a legal concept that suggests a sitting president is shielded from certain legal actions while in office. It is based on the idea that the president should be able to carry out their duties without constant legal distractions. This immunity typically applies to official acts performed in the course of their presidential duties. However, the extent and limitations of this immunity can vary and are subject to legal interpretation.
  • Posting a bond or obtaining a stay in legal proceedings allows a party to delay the enforcement of a judgment. A bond is a financial guarantee that the judgment amount will be paid if the appeal is unsuccessful. A stay is a court order that temporarily halts the enforcement of the judgment. These options provide a way for the party to prevent immediate payment or asset seizure while the appeal process unfolds.
  • The relationship between prosecutor Mr. Wade and Fannie Willis in the Georgia case could potentially raise concerns about bias, conflicts of interest, or the appearance of impropriety in the legal proceedings. It may lead to questions about the fairness and integrity of the case, especially if there are allegations of favoritism or compromised decision-making. Understanding the nature and timeline of their relationship, as well as any impact it may have had on the case, is crucial for assessing the credibility and impartiality of the legal process. Such relationships could influence perceptions of the case's handling and outcomes, highlighting the importance of transparency and accountability in legal proceedings.

Counterarguments

  • Presidential immunity is not absolute, and there may be legal precedents or interpretations of the law that suggest limitations, especially after a president has left office.
  • The Presidential Records Act has specific provisions, and there may be arguments that Trump's declaration of records as personal does not comply with those provisions.
  • Juror safety and anonymity, while important, must be balanced with the public's right to an open and transparent legal process.
  • Limited gag orders and evidence management must not infringe upon the First Amendment rights of the press and the public's right to information.
  • The emphasis on a fair and impartial trial process is crucial, but there may be concerns about whether these motions could inadvertently bias the proceedings or limit the defense's ability to present its case.
  • Posting a bond or achieving a stay to forestall payment of a judgment is a legal right, but it could be argued that it may delay justice or accountability.
  • The possibility of an appellate court granting a stay without bond raises questions about equal treatment under the law and whether such decisions are consistently applied.
  • The scrutiny of the relationship between prosecutor Mr. Wade and Fannie Willis in the Georgia case must be careful not to invade personal privacy without relevant cause or to distract from the legal issues at hand.

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Motions to Dismiss Mar-a-Lago Case

Donald Trump's legal team has filed motions to dismiss the Mar-a-Lago case, presenting arguments based on presidential immunity and provisions of the Presidential Records Act.

Presidential Immunity Argument

Weissmann reports on the claim of presidential immunity filed by Trump's team, relating to charges of conduct that occurred after Trump’s presidency.

Scope limited to classified documents charges

The motion to dismiss based on presidential immunity specifically targets the counts of mishandling classified information. Trump's lawyers argue that as president, Trump had the authority to designate certain records as personal, claiming that such a designation was within his official acts and that it should grant him immunity from criminal prosecution for those actions. The motion specifically seeks to dismiss counts one through 32, which are related to the mishandling of classified documents.

Previously rejected by DC Circuit but not binding

It's mentioned that although a DC Circuit court has previously rejected the presidential immunity argument, its opinion does not bind the Mar-a-Lago case, thereby allowing Trump's attorneys to present the argument anew.

Presidential Records Act Argument

Trump's decision to designate records as personal is tied to the Presidential Records Act, which Trump's lawyers are using as a basis for a motion to dismiss.

Basis for motion to dismiss entire indictment

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  • Presidential immunity is the legal concept that protects a sitting president from certain legal actions, such as civil lawsuits or criminal charges, while in office. This immunity is based on the idea that the president should be able to carry out their duties without being unduly burdened by litigation. It is not absolute and does not shield the president from all legal consequences, but it can limit the scope of legal actions that can be taken against them. The extent and application of presidential immunity have been the subject of legal debate and interpretation over time.
  • The Presidential Records Act (PRA) is a federal law that governs the management and preservation of presidential records. It requires the President to preserve and manage records related to the official activities of the presidency. The Act mandates that these records are ultimately transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) for preservation and public access. The PRA aims to ensure transparency, accountability, and historical documentation of presidential decision-making and activities.
  • The argument about the legality of classifying documents as personal revolves around Trump's assertion that he ...

Counterarguments

  • Presidential immunity is not absolute and does not necessarily extend to actions taken after a president leaves office.
  • The authority to designate records as personal under the Presidential Records Act may not include classified documents, which are subject to national security laws.
  • The DC Circuit court's rejection of the presidential immunity argument, while not binding, may be persuasive to other courts considering similar legal questions.
  • The Presidential Records Act does not provide a former president with blanket immunity from legal scrutiny or criminal investigation regarding the handling of presidential records.
  • The legality of classifying documents as personal may be subject to judicial review, especially if such classification conflicts with established laws governing classified information.
  • Investigations into the retention of documents may be authorized if there is evidence suggesting unlawful conduct, regardless ...

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Motions in New York Case

In response to safety concerns and the integrity of evidence, a series of motions have been filed in a high-profile New York case.

Safety and Disruption Concerns

In an effort to maintain juror privacy and safety, motions include measures typically reserved for violent gang or mafia cases, reflecting the significant concerns for juror and trial participant safety.

Limited gag order requested

District Attorney Alvin Bragg has filed a motion seeking a limited gag order, drawing on precedent from the DC Circuit's ruling related to a January 6 case. The motion requests restrictions on public statements about known or reasonably foreseeable witnesses and their participation in the case.

Juror secrecy and anonymity requested

To protect jurors from any potential harassment or influence, the motion calls for a restriction on the dissemination of juror information, limiting it to parties and counsel to the case. The motion also seeks to bar any public statements made about prospective jurors. A detailed record of threats and instances of violence has been presented to support these protective measures, emphasizing the importance of ensuring a fair trial and juror protection akin to that afforded to poll workers.

Evidentiary Motions

Pre-trial motions focus on what evidence and arguments will be permissible during the trial.

Admissibility, credibility, relevance arguments

Motions in limine, which are quite standard, have been filed to ...

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  • A limited gag order is a legal restriction that limits what parties involved in a case can publicly discuss. In this context, it aims to control the information shared about witnesses to protect the integrity of the trial. The request for a limited gag order is often made to prevent potential bias or interference with the legal process. It is a common measure in high-profile cases to ensure a fair trial.
  • Juror secrecy and anonymity requested: This means that measures are being sought to keep the identities of the jurors confidential and to prevent any public disclosure of their personal information to safeguard them from potential harassment or undue influence during the trial. Such requests are made to ensure the jurors can make impartial decisions without external pressures or threats. It is a common practice in high-profile cases to protect the privacy and safety of jurors. These measures are crucial to maintaining the integrity of the trial process and upholding the principles of a fair trial.
  • A motion in limine is a legal request made before or during a trial to exclude or include specific evidence or testimony. It is typically discussed outside the presence of the jury and decided by a judge. These motions aim to ensure a fair trial by addressing issues like prejudicial evidence or improper arguments. ...

Counterarguments

  • The limited gag order, while intended to protect witnesses, could be seen as a restriction on free speech and the public's right to be informed about the proceedings.
  • Juror secrecy and anonymity, although important for juror safety, might be criticized for reducing transparency in the judicial process.
  • Limiting the dissemination of juror information could be argued to be overly protective and might hinder the media's ability to report on the trial fairly and accurately.
  • The exclusion of evidence regarding Michael Cohen's credibility could be viewed as potentially omitting information that might be relevant to the case or to the credibility of the testimony provided.
  • Admitting evidence of other bad acts, such as the Access Hollywood tape, could be criticized for potentially biasing the jury against the defendant for actions that are not directly related to the charges in the current case.
  • The defense's challenge to the rel ...

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Appeal and Potential Stay of Civil Judgments

In civil law, there are mechanisms through which a defendant might delay the payment of a judgment after an appeal. However, these mechanisms have specific requirements and are not guaranteed.

No automatic stay without bond posting

If Mr. Trump appeals a ruling but does not post a bond, there is no automatic stay to prevent immediate payment pending the appeal. This means that, without a posted bond, the plaintiff can proceed with steps to collect the money owed, such as seizing assets within 30 days after the judgment has been entered, stamped, and docketed. To avoid this, the defendant must either pay the money into the court or voluntarily satisfy the judgment to effectively halt collection efforts while the appeal is in progress.

Could seek stay from appellate court

There is an option for Mr. Trump to seek a stay from the appellate division in New York, which, if granted, would allow a delay in payment until the appeal process is completed. Even if a stay is initially denied by the presiding judge, the defendant has t ...

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  • The specific requirements for mechanisms to delay payment of a judgment after an appeal typically involve posting a bond or satisfying the judgment in full to obtain an automatic stay. Without meeting these requirements, the defendant may need to seek a stay from the appellate court, which can grant a delay in payment until the appeal process is completed. The appellate court has the authority to issue a stay without the need for a bond, but this is at their discretion. If the defendant does not fulfill the necessary requirements, they must rely on the appellate court's decision for a stay to be granted.
  • Posting a bond in the context of appealing a civil judgment involves providing a financial guarantee to ensure that if the appeal is unsuccessful, the owed amount will be paid. This bond serves as security for the plaintiff, assuring that they will receive the judgment amount if the appeal does not overturn the decision. By posting a bond, the defendant can delay immediate payment of the judgment during the appeal process. If the defendant wins the appeal, the bond may be returned; if not, the bond amount is typically used to satisfy the judgment.
  • The appellate division in New York has the authority to grant stays, which are delays in enforcing a judgment while an appeal is ongoing. Stays can be requested by a defendant to prevent immediate payment of a judgment. The appellate court can issue a stay without requiring a bond to be posted, but this ...

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Testimony in Georgia Case Regarding Prosecutor's Relationship

The case in Georgia focuses on the relationship between lead prosecutor Mr. Wade and Fannie Willis, with particular scrutiny on the timing of their relationship and how this may affect the credibility of both parties.

Credibility questions around timing of relationship

The relationship's timing is under scrutiny, specifically when it began and the level of transparency regarding their expenses. The whereabouts of Mr. Wade's phone have come under examination, as data could imply details about the relationship onset with Fannie Willis.

Cell phone data and records as potential evidence

Cell site information shows activity between Mr. Wade's phone and the late-night to early-morning hours, which could be pertinent to the relationship's genesis. The conversation suggests that cell phone records and data, including thousands of phone calls between Mr. Wade and Fannie Willis, could provide evidence in the case.

The defense has detailed the location data from Mr. Wade's phone, indicating his presenc ...

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  • Cell phone data, such as call records and location information, can be used as evidence in legal cases to establish connections between individuals, track movements, and determine communication patterns. This data can help corroborate or challenge testimonies, provide timelines of events, and support investigations by showing interactions between parties. ...

Counterarguments

  • The relationship between Mr. Wade and Fannie Willis, while under scrutiny, may not necessarily impact the integrity of their professional duties or the case at hand.
  • The timing of the relationship's onset could be coincidental and unrelated to any case proceedings or professional interactions.
  • Expenses related to personal relationships are typically private matters and may not be relevant to the case unless there is clear evidence of misconduct.
  • Cell phone data, while potentially indicative of personal interactions, does not conclusively prove any wrongdoing or conflict of interest.
  • Thousands of phone calls could be related to work or other non-romantic interactions, especially if both parties are involved in the legal profession.
  • Cell site information indicating late-night activity is not inherently suspicious and could be explained by various legitimate reasons.
  • Presence near someone's residence, as indicated by cell phone ...

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