In this episode of NPR's Book of the Day, former Obama speechwriter David Litt shares how surfing helped him form an unlikely bond with his brother-in-law Matt. Despite their different backgrounds and worldviews—Litt being a liberal writer and Matt an electrician who enjoys Joe Rogan podcasts—the two found common ground in the waves.
Starting as a beginner at age 35, Litt describes how surfing became more than just an escape from his news addiction. Through shared experiences at various surfing locations, from Santa Cruz to an artificial wave pool in Texas, he and Matt developed mutual understanding and respect. The episode explores how activities that exist outside of political and ideological spaces can help bridge divides between people with different perspectives.
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David Litt, a former Obama speechwriter, shares his journey of forming an unexpected friendship with his brother-in-law Matt through surfing. Initially seeking a hobby to escape his news addiction, Litt decided to try surfing, a passion of Matt's, despite their significant differences—Litt being a liberal writer and Matt an electrician who enjoyed Joe Rogan podcasts.
At age 35, Litt found surfing physically demanding and emotionally challenging, confronting both bodily limitations and fears of the ocean. However, through shared surfing experiences and travels to various locations, including Santa Cruz and an artificial wave pool in Waco, Texas, Litt and Matt's relationship evolved beyond their apparent differences.
Litt describes how surfing served as "neutral ground"—a space uncoded as either liberal or conservative—where he and Matt could connect despite their contrasting worldviews. Their shared experiences in the waves helped them develop mutual understanding and respect. Through Matt, Litt learned valuable lessons about facing fears, particularly admiring Matt's tenacity in tackling large waves. Litt suggests that anyone can find such neutral ground to connect with people different from themselves, emphasizing the importance of focusing on shared human experiences rather than ideological divisions.
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David Litt has embarked on a surfing adventure with his brother-in-law, Matt, finding common ground and a genuine friendship in the waves.
David Litt's foray into the world of surfing began as an escape from his constant engagement with the news cycle. Urged by his wife to find a hobby, Litt, an ex-Obama speechwriter, recognized the strain his news addiction took on him.
Initially, Litt knew he and his brother-in-law Matt had little in common. They first met in 2012, and it quickly became apparent that their worlds were far apart—Litt, the liberal speechwriter, and Matt, the electrician who enjoyed listening to Joe Rogan. Despite these differences, Litt finds himself within the intersection of NPR and Rogan listeners, able to appreciate Rogan's take on familiar topics or personalities.
Seeking to bridge the gap, Litt tackled the challenge of learning to surf, immersing himself in Matt's passion. During the pandemic, Matt seemed to thrive, and his love for surfing became an avenue for Litt.
At 35 years old, Litt found surfing to be a grueling venture that pushed his physical limits, tapping into muscles he never knew he had. Beyond the physical, Litt contended with his own fear, the daunting vastness of the ocean a new and formidable opponent.
Surfing became a catalyst for Litt and Matt to forge a stronger bond. Not only did the sport challenge Litt p ...
Litt's Surfing Journey With Brother-In-law Matt
David Litt and Matt come from entirely different worlds, but they find common ground and lessons in the waves.
Litt suggests that living like Matt would be his own ruin, implying a stark lifestyle contrast between the two, yet avoiding explicit labels for their differences.
Although there's no explicit mention of Matt being an anti-vaxx motorcycle enthusiast, their considerable lifestyle differences are hinted at by Litt, suggesting discrete yet significant divergence in their personal views and choices.
Initially, Litt and Matt steered clear of discussing their polarizing differences, deciding to bond over their shared passion for surfing instead.
Their time in the ocean brought them closer, helping them understand each other beyond their contrasting worldviews. It was the thrill of surfing that provided a gateway to mutual respect.
Litt and Matt: Differences, Tensions, and Resolution
Litt shares his personal account of how he found common ground with his brother-in-law Matt, which he attributes to the neutral ground created by their shared passion for surfing.
Surfing served not just as a sport but as a bridge for Litt to connect with Matt despite their political and ideological differences. This shared activity became a space where their divisions mattered less and their relationship could flourish.
Further discussing the concept, Litt points out that neutral ground is found where activities and interests are not heavily coded as liberal or conservative. Instead, these activities focus on what individuals have in common, such as shared experiences and interests. It is in these spaces that people might see that their differences might not be as consequential as they initially thought.
"Neutral Ground" to Find Common Understanding Across Divides
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