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Episode 621: Fan Favorite: Bobby Mackey's Music World

By Morbid Network | Wondery

In this episode of Morbid, the disturbing history of Bobby Mackey's Music World is explored. Built on the haunted grounds of a former slaughterhouse and site of a heinous murder, the property has drawn criminal activity for decades. From the earliest days, owners and employees experienced unexplained occurrences hinting at paranormal forces.

The episode details eerie events witnessed at the venue, including shadowy figures, objects moving on their own, and strange occurrences with a mechanical bull. Psychics are consulted, exorcisms performed, and patrons share their own chilling encounters. As claims of hauntings persist, the owners embrace the property's sinister reputation, even offering haunted tours and overnight stays.

Episode 621: Fan Favorite: Bobby Mackey's Music World

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Episode 621: Fan Favorite: Bobby Mackey's Music World

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The Dark History of Bobby Mackey's Music World

Built on a former slaughterhouse and meat packing plant site, the property where Bobby Mackey's Music World now stands has been marred by a series of grim events over the decades, fueling rumors of hauntings.

1850s: Origins as a Slaughterhouse

Originally a slaughterhouse built in 1850, the abandoned property became associated with legends of occult rituals, with the on-site well believed to be a site for dark activities.

1896: The Brutal Murder of Pearl Bryan

Adding to the sinister lore, the decapitated body of Pearl Bryan was discovered near the slaughterhouse in 1896. Her murderers, Scott Jackson and Alonzo Walling, vowed to haunt the location and its participants.

Criminal and Violent Activity

Over the years, the property housed a roadhouse, illegal gambling den, and the Hard Rock Cafe - drawing a criminal element and violence. Ash Kelley notes that each new venture seemed to perpetuate a legacy of turmoil.

Claims of Paranormal Activity

Janet Mackey's Eerie Experiences

From the start, Janet Mackey sensed an unsettling presence on the property, including shadowy figures and a front door closing on its own. She was pushed by an unseen force while pregnant.

Employee and Customer Hauntings

Longtime employee Carl Lawson witnessed unexplained phenomena like chairs moving. Customers like Mike saw the mechanical bull behave unnaturally. Carl even found a diary chronicling the ghost of showgirl Johanna.

Investigating the Hauntings

Psychic Insights

Psychic Patricia Michelle sensed spirits, including Johanna's and what she believed was Pearl Bryan's severed head by the well. She recommended an exorcism.

Exorcism Attempts

After Janet's fall, Reverend Glenn Cole performed multiple exorcisms, including on Carl Lawson who exhibited disturbing symptoms. Though taxing, Cole believed Carl was demonically possessed.

Embracing the Haunted Reputation

Despite resistance, a patron sued in 1993 claiming to be attacked by an apparition. Bobby Mackey eventually accepted the haunted lore, incorporating it into haunted tours and overnight stays.

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Counterarguments

  • The association of the property with occult rituals and dark activities may be based on folklore rather than documented historical events.
  • The claim that Pearl Bryan's murderers vowed to haunt the location could be an embellishment or a myth that arose after the fact, as there may be no historical record of such a vow.
  • The experiences of Janet Mackey and other employees could have psychological explanations such as suggestibility, especially in a place reputed to be haunted.
  • The mechanical bull's unnatural behavior reported by a customer could have a mechanical or technical explanation rather than a paranormal one.
  • The diary found by Carl Lawson, which chronicles the ghost of showgirl Johanna, could be a fabricated artifact rather than genuine historical evidence.
  • Psychic impressions, such as those reported by Patricia Michelle, are not considered reliable evidence of paranormal activity by the scientific community.
  • The effectiveness of exorcisms is a matter of belief and lacks empirical evidence; symptoms of possession could be manifestations of psychological or medical conditions.
  • The lawsuit claiming an attack by an apparition could be motivated by factors other than actual paranormal experiences, such as seeking attention or financial gain.
  • Embracing the haunted reputation and incorporating it into tours and overnight stays could be seen as a commercial strategy to capitalize on the property's notoriety rather than an acknowledgment of genuine paranormal phenomena.

Actionables

  • You can explore local history by researching the past of your own home or a nearby historical site to uncover any interesting or mysterious events. Start by visiting your local library or historical society to access old newspapers, property records, and speak with local historians. This can give you a deeper appreciation for the area you live in and might reveal fascinating stories that have been forgotten over time.
  • Create a themed event or gathering based on local legends and history to share with friends and family. For example, if there's a tale of a haunted location or a historical figure from your town, you could organize a storytelling night, where everyone brings a dish from the era or dresses in period costumes. This can be a fun way to engage with your community's past and bring people together for an educational and entertaining experience.
  • Write a short story or piece of fiction inspired by the legends and historical events you've learned about. Use the details and atmosphere from the stories to craft your narrative, and share it on a blog or in a local community publication. This allows you to flex your creative muscles and gives others a new way to connect with the history and lore of your area.

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Episode 621: Fan Favorite: Bobby Mackey's Music World

The history and tragic past of the property where Bobby Mackey's Music World is located

The history of the property that Bobby Mackey's Music World occupies is marked by a series of dark and sinister events that have fueled rumors of hauntings and occult activities.

The property's origins as a slaughterhouse and meat packing plant in the 1850s led to rumors of the area being haunted or used for occult rituals.

Originally a slaughterhouse and meat-packing plant built in 1850, the property was later abandoned, leaving behind legends of hauntings and occult rituals. The presence of a well, used to collect animal fluids including blood, was believed to be a site for dark activities and has become part of local lore.

The 1896 murder of Pearl Bryan, whose decapitated body was found near the abandoned slaughterhouse, added to the property's dark history.

The grim past of the property was further cemented by the 1896 murder of Pearl Bryan, whose beheaded body was found near the former slaughterhouse, in a field close to Fort Thomas. The coroner established that Bryan had been decapitated while possibly still alive, after being drugged with cocaine. Scott Jackson and Alonzo Walling were identified as her murderers, having last been seen with Bryan. Jackson was involved with Bryan and was unhappy about her pregnancy. They initially attempted to induce a miscarriage with cocaine before deciding on murder. Authorities never found Bryan's head; Jackson and Walling provided different accounts of its disposal, but neither led to its discovery. It was speculated that Jackson might have destroyed her head in a dental school incinerator to prevent identification.

Some employees of the club, like Carl, feared that the site was haunted by malicious spirits, possibly the souls of Bryan’s killers, Jackson and Walling. They worried that these spirits were responsible for attacks in the club and were intent on driving everyone away. Doug Hensley, a friend of Bobby Mackey and paranormal researcher, was drawn to the murder story during his investigations on the club and found out about the killers' vow to haunt the trial participants and the location of Bryan's head.

Alaina Urquhart highlighted the brutality of the murder circumstances, drawing attention to the historical weight of the property. Ash Kelley and Alaina Urquhart marveled at the possibility of occult connections to the murder, including theories that Bryan's head was sacrificed as part of a Satanic ritual or disposed of in the well on the property.

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  • Pearl Bryan was murdered in 1896 near the former slaughterhouse. Her beheaded body was found in a field close to Fort Thomas. Two men, Scott Jackson and Alonzo Walling, were convicted of her murder. The case involved elements of drug use, a failed attempt to induce a miscarriage, and speculation about the disposal of Bryan's head.
  • The disposal of Pearl Bryan's head after her murder in 1896 remains a mystery. Speculation arose that one of the murderers, Scott Jackson, might have destroyed her head in a dental school incinerator to prevent identification. Despite different accounts provided by Jackson and his accomplice, Alonzo Walling, the exact fate of Bryan's head was never conclusively determined. This speculation added to the macabre nature of the crime and the haunting history of the property where her body was found.
  • The property's association with occult activities stems from rumors and local lore attributing the site's dark history to possible occult rituals and hauntings. The presence of a well on the property, believed to have been used for collecting animal fluids including blood, contributed to these beliefs. Additionally, the mysterious circumstances surrounding the murder of Pearl Bryan near the property fueled speculation about occult connections, such as theories of sacrificial rituals. These elements have intertwined with the property's history, creating a narrative of supernatural and sinister occurrences.
  • The well on the property was believed to have been used for collecting animal fluids, including blood, during the time when the location was a slaughterhouse. It became associated with dark activities and local legends of hauntings and occult rituals due to its grim history. Rumors suggested that the well may have been connected to sinis ...

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The paranormal activity and supernatural occurrences experienced at the nightclub

Janet Mackey and Carl Lawson, a longtime employee, believe in spirits at Bobby Mackey's, a nightclub notorious for its supernatural happenings.

From the moment Janet Mackey first visited the property, she sensed an uneasy, unseen presence.

Janet reported that the very first time she laid eyes on the property, she was startled by a figure she saw moving in the doorway and noticed the front door close on its own. While cleaning the office on the second floor on a different occasion, she felt a man's hand grab her arm and saw the shadow of a man on the landing, which quickly disappeared. These experiences left her extremely frightened and eager to leave the property.

Over the years, various people associated with the club - owners, employees, customers, and workers - reported paranormal phenomena.

Patrol Officer Larry Hornsby thought he witnessed a break-in at the club but found only unexplained voices and a radio playing from the backstage area when he investigated. Customers, including a regular named Mike, experienced strange phenomena like the mechanical bull behaving uncontrollably. Even workers, like a carpenter named Johnny France, reported paranormal experiences while at the club alone.

Janet felt a presence pushing her toward the sink, which started filling with a red liquid that resembled blood. Carl Lawson also experienced phenomena, such as watching chairs fall over in a domino-like fashion without any visible cause.

The club's longtime employee, Carl Lawson, became convinced the property was haunted by malevolent spirits, including those of Pearl Bryan's killers.

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  • Skepticism about the existence of the paranormal, as there is no scientific evidence to support the existence of ghosts or spirits.
  • The possibility that experiences of paranormal activity could be attributed to psychological factors, such as the power of suggestion or heightened emotions in a place believed to be haunted.
  • The potential for misinterpretation of natural phenomena, such as drafts causing doors to close or shadows cast by objects, as supernatural occurrences.
  • The influence of confirmation bias, where individuals who believe in ghosts are more likely to interpret ambiguous events as paranormal.
  • The role of external factors, such as the nightclub's reputation for being haunted, in influencing people's perceptions and experiences.
  • The possibility that stories of hauntings could be embellished or fabricated for entertainment or commercial benefit, as haunted attractions can draw public interest and tourism.
  • The need for critical thinking and skepticism when co ...

Actionables

  • You can explore local history to uncover potential paranormal stories by visiting your town's historical society or library and researching any notorious events or figures that might be associated with hauntings.
  • Delving into the past can give you a deeper understanding of the stories that fuel local legends. For example, if there was a famous bank robbery in your town 100 years ago, you might find out if any of the involved parties are rumored to haunt the area.
  • Start a journal to document any unusual experiences you encounter in your daily life, focusing on details that could suggest a paranormal explanation.
  • Keeping a detailed record can help you identify patterns or recurring phenomena that you might otherwise overlook. For instance, if you consistently notice flickering lights in your home at a certain time, jotting this down could help you track whether there's a mundane explanation or something more mysterious at play.
  • Engage with your community by starting a casual discussion group for those inter ...

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The attempts to investigate and address the haunting, including bringing in a psychic medium and performing an exorcism

The Mackeys, after a series of perilous supernatural incidents at Bobby Mackey's Music World, reached out to paranormal experts and religious figures in an effort to address the haunting which had begun to overshadow the club's country and Western music fame.

After Janet's traumatic fall down the stairs that threatened her and her unborn baby's life, the Mackeys sought help from a paranormal researcher and a local Pentecostal minister.

Janet Mackey experienced a violent push down the stairs when she was six months pregnant, which threatened both her life and that of her unborn child. Following this event, she vowed never to return to the club. Concerned for his pregnant wife and his friend Carl Lawson, Bobby Mackey agreed to find help in the form of an exorcism.

Patricia Michelle, a psychic medium, was brought in and claimed to sense the presence of Johanna's spirit and also the spectral remain of Pearl Bryan's severed head near the well of the club. According to her, the only way forward was through a blessing of the space and an exorcism for Carl Lawson.

The minister, Reverend Glenn Cole, performed multiple exorcism rituals in an attempt to rid the property of the malevolent spirits.

Reverend Cole, after being introduced by Larry Kidwell, visited the club and felt an immediate and unsettling sense of evil, declaring it the most sinister location he had ever encountered. After visiting with Carl Lawson, he believed Carl to be demonically possessed.

Despite previous incidents such as a kitchen fire which they believed to be a reaction from the resentful spirits, Reverend Cole proceeded with the exorcism. Accompanied by a reporter and three cameramen to document the event, Reverend Cole performed the exorcism. Carl Lawson exhibited physical symptoms consistent with possession – jerking, spasming, and changing body language – that continued until he fell limp, appearing to be released from the possession, at least temporarily.

Subsequent exorcism sessions proved to be taxing and prolonged, with Carl experiencing weeks of agony. At the conclusion of one session, Carl noticed a sudden outbreak of hemorrhoids, a condition some suggested may be tied to the exorcism.

Despite the attempts at cleansing the property, the supernatural activity continued, culminating in a lawsuit from a patron who claimed to be attacked by a ghost.

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Counterarguments

  • The effectiveness of psychic mediums and exorcisms is not scientifically proven, and there is skepticism about whether these methods can actually address or resolve so-called hauntings.
  • The experiences described as supernatural could have explanations grounded in psychology, such as the power of suggestion, placebo effects, or the influence of group dynamics and belief.
  • Physical symptoms of possession, like those exhibited by Carl Lawson, could be attributed to psychological conditions or physical illnesses rather than demonic possession.
  • The continuation of supernatural activity despite exorcism efforts could suggest that the perceived hauntings are either psychological in nature or that the rituals themselves are ineffective.
  • The lawsuit from a patron claiming to be attacked by a ghost could be viewed skepti ...

Actionables

  • You can document any unusual occurrences in your home with a daily log to track patterns and determine if there's a logical explanation before considering paranormal causes. Start by noting the time, location, and nature of each event, and include environmental factors like weather or household changes that might contribute to odd noises or movements. This can help you rule out natural causes and decide if further investigation is warranted.
  • Enhance your understanding of historical and cultural narratives around hauntings by creating a local folklore map. Research stories, legends, and reported hauntings in your area, then plot them on a map to see if there are any clusters or patterns that might suggest a basis for these tales beyond mere superstition. This can provide a deeper appreciation for local history and potentially explain why certain areas are reputed to be haunted.
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