In this episode of Modern Wisdom, Adam Grant explores the notions of potential, expertise, and overcoming fear of failure. He highlights that extraordinary talent often develops through passion, practice, and opportunity—not innate skill. Grant explains why connecting work to real-world impact sustains motivation, and shares strategies like celebrating small wins and maintaining grounding connections.
The conversation delves into managing emotions around risk and uncertainty. Grant examines how people frequently overestimate the negative impact of failure and discusses techniques like pre-mortems and allocated "worry time" to channel anxiety into productive action. Ultimately, he encourages embracing a growth mindset and some level of failure risk as integral to learning.
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As Adam Grant points out, many great achievers like Bach and Beethoven significantly improved their skills over time. Early teachers and coaches who foster engaging and challenging learning environments, as highlighted in Benjamin Bloom's study, are crucial for developing expertise.
Grant himself overcame a lack of natural athletic ability through diligent practice guided by a supportive coach, achieving recognition as an all-state diver. The drive for continuous improvement often distinguishes world-class performers more than initial skill levels.
Grant stresses that one's "potential ceiling" is flexible, expanding with skill development, sustained motivation, and available opportunities. He advocates for recognizing and nurturing an individual's latent capabilities instead of measuring against an arbitrary potential ceiling. Providing the right environment and encouragement is key to unlocking unseen potential.
Connecting efforts to real-world value and impact, such as through hearing directly from those benefiting, dramatically increases motivation and engagement, as Grant's experiment with fundraising callers showed.
However, an over-reliance on quantitative metrics can undermine this sense of meaning and purpose. Grant suggests balancing high aspirations with acceptable outcomes to ensure satisfaction.
Grant recommends seeking feedback, discussing shortcomings, and maintaining old friendships to stay grounded. His "20% rule" of incorporating new material balances playing to strengths with continued growth. Both Grant and Chris Williamson understand tolerating uncertainty and embracing experimentation as vital.
Research by Dan Gilbert and others shows people overestimate the negative impact and duration of failure, often recovering quicker than anticipated thanks to resilience and the "psychological immune system."
Grant encourages reflecting on how fears around past failures turned out unfounded and separating self-worth from outcomes to lessen fear. Adopting a growth mindset where failures signal learning can also reduce paralysis.
Grant discusses anticipating potential failures through pre-mortems to manage emotions and mitigate risks. Creating time-boxed "worry windows" focuses anxiety into manageable periods. Consulting others and considering likelihood of success provides psychological distance for clearer evaluation of risks.
Embracing some level of failure risk as part of learning helps build confidence and resilience for coping with uncertainty.
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Adam Grant and other experts discuss the progression from average to excellence in various fields, illustrating that extraordinary capabilities are frequently the result of development rather than inherent talent.
Adam Grant points out a common misconception regarding talent: people often assume great achievers like Steph Curry or Mozart were born prodigies. Yet, histories like those of Bach and Beethoven show talents often improve significantly over time. A study by Benjamin Bloom indicates that early teachers and coaches who make learning fun and challenging are crucial in developing expertise. Grant recalls his own experience in sports as a clear example; despite lacking natural talent in basketball and soccer, he found success in diving thanks to his coach Eric Best's belief in his potential. Through diligent practice, Grant achieved recognition as an all-state diver and participated in the junior Olympics.
The Bloom study Grant cites shows that early coaches and teachers make a significant difference in developing world-class talents by not only making learning engaging but also by enabling plenty of practice opportunities.
Grant emphasizes the drive to improve as a distinguishing feature of world-class performers, rather than just innate ability. They stood out because of their passion and love of learning, not their starting skill levels.
Adam Grant stresses that potential is not innate and immutable; a person's "potential ceiling" is flexible and can expand with skill development, sustained motivation, and available opportunities. He advocates for a perspective that acknowledges the latent capabilities we may not immediately see and the critical role of mentors who can recognize and nurture this unseen potential.
The development of talent and expertise
Understanding the role of motivation and meaning is critical. It's not just about doing a job; it's about finding a connection to the impact of one's work and understanding the value it provides.
Adam Grant discusses how knowing you’re valued by others and have value to add is crucial for finding meaning in work. He points to an experiment with fundraising callers who became more motivated after hearing from a scholarship student about the impact of their work–it changed the meaning of their work, which led to significant improvements in performance. Chris Williamson notes that reading heartfelt emails from listeners was more motivating than observing numerical growth, suggesting genuine impact generates a greater sense of meaning compared to quantitative metrics.
Adam Grant expresses that focusing solely on ambitious goals without setting a satisfactory minimum can lead to being successful but miserable. He suggests maintaining a balance between high aspirations and acceptable outcomes to ensure satisfaction and happiness.
Adam Grant promotes seeking feedback and engaging in weekly reflections on it to maintain perspective. He highlights the value of discussing shortcomi ...
The role of motivation and meaning
The challenge of grappling with uncertainty is real, with Chris Williamson acknowledging the struggle of taking action when outcomes are unpredictable. In a conversation with Adam Grant, several strategies are discussed on how to manage the emotional impact of uncertainty and the fear of failure.
Adam Grant brings up affective forecasting research by Dan Gilbert and colleagues, which shows that people overestimate the negative impact and duration of failure. For example, professors expecting tenure outcomes anticipated years to recover from a rejection, but most bounced back within months. George Bonanno found that resilience is generally the norm, with our psychological immune system helping us to handle setbacks well.
Adam Grant encourages looking back at past fears and failures, suggesting that we often discover they weren’t as catastrophic as anticipated. The psychological immune system comes into play, offering mental antibodies that help us find meaning and recover from these setbacks. Reflecting on how little a past failure means in the long term can provide perspective and reduce current anxiety associated with potential failure.
Adam Grant recommends using a compass as a metaphor for directionally correct decision-making, advocating for a growth mindset. By expecting to encounter a certain number of failures each year and viewing these as signs of pushing limits and striving for better, we can lessen the fear of failure. Remembering the lessons from past failures, such as the importance of preparation and pressure management, underscores the growth mindset where success or failure in specific instances does not define our self-worth. This is reinforced by setting personal goals for failure, as Grant does, to ensure that risks are taken.
Adam Grant discusses pre-mortems, as studied by Gary Klein, which involves anticipating potential failures and preparing for them, ultimately helping to ma ...
Managing emotions and mindset around risk and uncertainty
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