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#884 - Nick Pollard - How To Stop Being Such A People Pleaser

By Chris Williamson

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, Nick Pollard explores the psychology behind people pleasing behaviors. He posits that people pleasing often stems from deep-rooted feelings of inadequacy, frequently originating from traumatic childhood experiences. The conversation delves into the manifestations of people pleasing, such as dishonesty, self-neglect, and a loss of self-identity.

Pollard then offers practical strategies for overcoming people pleasing tendencies, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries, developing self-trust, and allowing oneself to experience a full range of emotions. He underscores the role of self-love and personal values in reclaiming one's authentic identity and preferences on the path towards a more assertive, fulfilling life.

#884 - Nick Pollard - How To Stop Being Such A People Pleaser

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#884 - Nick Pollard - How To Stop Being Such A People Pleaser

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The psychology and underlying drivers of people pleasing

Nick Pollard and others suggest people pleasing stems from a deep-seated belief of not being "enough," often originating from difficult childhood experiences. Pollard says his own people-pleasing behaviors arose from a fundamental feeling of insufficiency rooted in having one parent highly involved and another absent or abusive. This created a need to please the involved parent for acceptance.

People pleasers struggle with an underlying sense of inferiority, constantly trying to measure up to others. The desire to be accepted and avoid abandonment drives the behavior. Shame, guilt, and fear of rejection underpin people pleasers' compulsive need to prioritize others' needs over their own.

Outward behaviors, inner thoughts, and effects of people pleasing

People pleasers tend to be dishonest, often saying "yes" when they mean "no." This inauthenticity and lack of self-advocacy leads to burnout, financial troubles, and a lack of meaningful relationships. They struggle to recognize and communicate their own needs and desires, feeling their own emotions and boundaries are invalid compared to others'. Over time, prolonged people pleasing can erode one's sense of self-identity and make it difficult to know one's true preferences.

Strategies and habits for setting boundaries and becoming more assertive

Pollard discusses establishing a "bill of rights" or set of personal values to guide one's boundaries. He advises learning to sit with discomfort and fear when setting boundaries, rather than avoiding them. Surrounding oneself with a supportive community of like-minded individuals can also help. Mantras serve as reminders for maintaining boundaries.

The role of self-love, self-trust, and identity development in overcoming people pleasing

Developing self-trust by keeping commitments to oneself and honoring one's own needs is crucial, according to Pollard. He notes recognizing and addressing the core belief of not being "enough" as a fundamental driver of people pleasing. Allowing oneself to feel the full range of emotions, including discomfort and guilt, without judgment, and reframing negative emotions as valuable feedback rather than flaws to be avoided, is important.

Pollard highlights focusing on self-invention and play to rediscover one's authentic preferences and identity. The process of overcoming people pleasing can initially feel isolating but is ultimately liberating.

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Counterarguments

  • People pleasing may not always stem from a sense of not being "enough" or difficult childhood experiences; it can also be a learned social strategy that serves a functional purpose in certain environments or cultures.
  • The desire to please others can sometimes be a positive trait, reflecting empathy and a strong value for harmony in relationships.
  • Not all people pleasers struggle with an underlying sense of inferiority; some may simply have a more agreeable personality or a preference for avoiding conflict.
  • Saying "yes" when one means "no" is not always a sign of dishonesty; it can also be a strategic choice to maintain social cohesion or to defer one's own preferences in favor of a perceived greater good.
  • The concept of burnout and financial troubles being directly linked to people pleasing is an oversimplification; these issues can have multiple causes and may not be solely the result of people-pleasing behaviors.
  • The erosion of self-identity due to people pleasing is not inevitable; some individuals may retain a strong sense of self while also being accommodating to others.
  • The idea of a "bill of rights" for personal boundaries assumes that all individuals have the same capacity for assertiveness and self-advocacy, which may not account for cultural or personality differences.
  • The emphasis on discomfort in setting boundaries may not be necessary or helpful for everyone; some individuals may find other methods more effective for establishing their limits.
  • The notion that a supportive community is always beneficial in setting boundaries overlooks the possibility that some communities may actually reinforce people-pleasing behaviors.
  • Mantras and self-affirmations may not be effective for everyone; some individuals may require more concrete strategies or professional support to maintain boundaries.
  • The focus on self-trust and honoring one's own needs may not consider the complexity of interdependent relationships where compromise is often necessary.
  • The idea that recognizing and addressing the core belief of not being "enough" is a fundamental driver of people pleasing may not resonate with everyone; some may not identify with this belief yet still engage in people-pleasing behaviors.
  • The suggestion to feel the full range of emotions without judgment may not take into account individuals with emotional regulation difficulties, for whom this approach could be overwhelming.
  • Reframing negative emotions as valuable feedback may not be suitable for all situations, especially if the emotions are a result of toxic or abusive environments.
  • The concept of self-invention and play as a means to rediscover one's identity may not be practical or appealing to everyone, particularly those who feel secure in their identity despite their people-pleasing tendencies.
  • The assertion that overcoming people pleasing is ultimately liberating may not acknowledge the full spectrum of outcomes, as some individuals may find value in their people-pleasing behaviors and not wish to change them.

Actionables

  • Create a "No" jar to practice declining requests; every time you say no to something that doesn't align with your values or priorities, write it down on a piece of paper and put it in the jar. This visual representation of your boundaries will reinforce your ability to maintain them and remind you of the progress you're making in overcoming people-pleasing behaviors.
  • Start a "Boundary Buddy" system with a friend where you both commit to setting one new boundary each week and report back on the experience. This accountability partnership can provide mutual support and encouragement, making the process of setting boundaries less daunting and more collaborative.
  • Design a personal "Emotion Wheel" to explore and label your feelings more accurately. Use colors, words, or images to represent different emotions and refer to this wheel when you're feeling overwhelmed. By acknowledging and understanding your emotions, you can better manage the guilt or shame that might arise from not people-pleasing and use your emotions as feedback for personal growth.

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#884 - Nick Pollard - How To Stop Being Such A People Pleaser

The psychology and underlying drivers of people pleasing

Nick Pollard and Williamson delve into the complex psychology behind people pleasing, revealing that it often stems from a deep-seated belief of not being "enough" as an individual, with roots in childhood experiences.

People pleasing stems from a deep-seated belief of not being "enough" as an individual

Pollard speaks about an inner voice that constantly tells people pleasers they are not good enough. This indicates a deep-seated belief of inadequacy. Williamson further suggests that the drive to please comes from an underlying sense of self, where one does not feel "enough" and seeks favor or wants to create an impact through pleasing others.

This belief often originates from childhood experiences where one parent was highly involved while the other was absent or abusive

Pollard reveals that his own people-pleasing behaviors stem from a fundamental feeling of insufficiency, which can be traced back to childhood. He describes a common scenario where one parent was overly involved while the other was absent, perhaps even abusive. This creates a dynamic where the child learns to gain acceptance and love by pleasing the more involved parent as a means of preventing abandonment and getting their needs met.

People pleasers struggle with an underlying sense of inferiority and constantly try to measure up to others

The drive to please is also an attempt to appease the inner voice that suggests a person is not enough, a struggle with feelings of inferiority. Pollard admits to feeling that he could never measure up to others and that everyone else seemed better than him. This inferiority complex impacts mental health and is often rooted in one's upbringing, particularly in family scenarios where a conforming son, referred to as the "nice guy," grows up in environments dominated by the mother while the father is distant or negative in some way.

The desire to be accepted and avoid abandonment drives the people pleasing behavior

People pleasers are inclined to become reactive when faced with criticism, often reverting to childlike behavior to correct the situation and regain favor ...

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  • People pleasing may not always stem from a sense of inadequacy; it could also be a learned social strategy for navigating complex interpersonal dynamics.
  • Childhood experiences are diverse, and not all people pleasers have a background with one highly involved and one absent or abusive parent; other factors can contribute to people-pleasing tendencies.
  • An underlying sense of inferiority is not the only possible driver for people-pleasing behaviors; some individuals may engage in these behaviors due to a strong empathetic response or a genuine desire to help others.
  • The desire to be accepted and avoid abandonment might not be the sole motivator for people-pleasing behavior; some individuals might be motivated by cultur ...

Actionables

  • Create a personal affirmation deck to reinforce your self-worth. Write down affirmations that counteract feelings of not being enough, such as "I am valuable just as I am" or "My worth is not dependent on others' opinions." Use these cards every morning or whenever you feel the urge to please someone at the expense of your own needs.
  • Start a 'no' journal to practice setting boundaries. Each day, jot down opportunities where you could say no or prioritize your needs. Reflect on why it's difficult and what you fear might happen if you do say no. Over time, this can help you understand your fear of rejection and work towards overcoming it.
  • Engage in role-play exe ...

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#884 - Nick Pollard - How To Stop Being Such A People Pleaser

Outward behaviors, inner thoughts, and effects of people pleasing

Pollard and Williamson discuss the patterns and consequences of people-pleasing behavior, highlighting the disconnect between outer actions and inner thoughts, and the subsequent impact on individuals' lives.

People pleasers tend to be dishonest, often saying "yes" when they mean "no"

People pleasers, as Pollard and Williamson note, often lie about their willingness, saying "yes" when they actually want to say "no". This dishonesty is reflected in Pollard's and Williamson’s admissions that they often agree to do things they don't want to do. Pollard has never met a people pleaser that wasn't a "liar," due to this tendency of insincerity, which entails a form of dishonesty by not being true to oneself.

This inauthenticity and lack of self-advocacy leads to burnout, financial troubles, and a lack of meaningful relationships

The lack of self-advocacy in people pleasers, combined with their dishonesty, can lead to burnout, as seen by the observation that the people pleasers Pollard worked with often approached burnout by the age of 38. Financial ruin can result from prioritizing others’ needs over one's own financial health. Furthermore, Pollard points out that extreme people-pleasing behavior can leave one feeling broke, alone, and miserable. Williamson describes how avoiding discomfort by not saying "no" can lead to much more discomfort spread over a longer time, which indicates a path toward burnout.

People pleasers struggle to recognize and communicate their own needs and desires

They feel their own emotions and boundaries are invalid or unimportant compared to others'

Williamson talks about the challenges of asserting his own preferences and desires, overshadowed by the need to accommodate others. Pollard suggests that the people-pleasing modality often hides other emotions brewing under the surface because the pleaser places others' wants over their own. The resulting inability to advocate ...

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  • People pleasers may not always be dishonest; they might genuinely want to help others and struggle with setting boundaries rather than intentionally lying.
  • Saying "yes" when one means "no" can sometimes be a result of a desire to maintain harmony or avoid conflict, rather than a lack of sincerity.
  • Some individuals may thrive in roles that require accommodating others, and not all people pleasers will experience burnout or financial troubles.
  • People pleasers can have meaningful relationships, especially if those around them appreciate their tendencies and encourage more balanced interactions.
  • People pleasers may be aware of their own needs and desires but prioritize others out of a sense of duty or care, rather than feeling their emotions are invalid.
  • It is possible ...

Actionables

  • Create a personal "yes" and "no" journal to track your responses to requests and invitations, noting the outcome and how you felt about each decision. This will help you become more aware of your patterns and the consequences of saying "yes" when you want to say "no." For example, if you agreed to help a friend move when you were already overwhelmed, write down how it affected your stress levels and what you might do differently next time.
  • Practice expressing your needs through role-playing with a trusted friend or family member. Start with low-stakes situations and gradually work up to more challenging ones. For instance, role-play a scenario where you ask for a day off work for self-care, focusing on clear communication and self-advocacy.
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#884 - Nick Pollard - How To Stop Being Such A People Pleaser

Strategies and habits for setting boundaries and becoming more assertive

Nick Pollard discusses the importance of setting boundaries, sharing strategies, and habits to become more assertive in maintaining one’s personal space and values.

Establishing a "bill of rights" or set of personal values to guide one's boundaries

Pollard emphasizes that boundaries are about making one’s needs as important as everyone else’s. Boundaries are a reflection of an individual's value system and set the guidelines for what they will accept and tolerate. For instance, if kindness is a value, a person might choose to spend time only with people who are kind, avoiding those who aren’t.

Pollard explains that creating a personal Bill of Rights – a list of values and priorities – holds an individual accountable to what they permit themselves to do and what they don't have to tolerate, like unkindness or yelling. Enforcing boundaries, such as by taking a break from a conversation when someone raises their voice, is a method he recommends, and then returning once calm is restored.

He suggests writing down the top three things one wants to focus on and putting them on a business card as a practical reminder. Implicit in this concept is the idea that learning to say 'no' is crucial for asserting one's boundaries.

Learning to sit with discomfort and fear when setting boundaries, rather than avoiding them

Pollard advises learning to sit with and question the feelings that arise when asserting one's sense of self and boundaries, identifying feelings like anxiety and questioning their nature. He mentions that boundary conversations do not always need to be immediate, and it is acceptable to take a break during uncomfortable discussions.

An exercise Pollard recommends includes saying no to everything for a week and sitting with the discomfort that arises from it. He suggests using this time for breathing techniques or contemplation before giving a final response, allowing a rule that lets one change their mind after 90 seconds. Taking a deep breath in and a hard breath out can help reset the nervous system when emotions become ...

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  • While setting boundaries is important, it's also necessary to be flexible in certain situations where compromise and understanding can lead to better outcomes for all parties involved.
  • A personal Bill of Rights is a strong foundation, but it should be open to evolution as individuals grow and their values change over time.
  • Saying 'no' to everything for a week as an exercise might not be practical or constructive in all contexts, as it could strain relationships and lead to missed opportunities.
  • Enforcing boundaries by taking a break from a conversation can be beneficial, but it's also important to develop skills to address and resolve conflict in the moment when necessary.
  • While surrounding oneself with a supportive community is helpful, it's also valuable to engage with diverse perspectives to challenge and refine one's own boundaries and beliefs.
  • Relying too heavily on a community for support might inhibit personal growth and the development of self-reliance in maintaining boundaries.
  • Mantras can be useful, but they should not replace critical thinking and the ongoing personal reflection required to maintain healthy boundaries.
  • The advice to take control through bound ...

Actionables

  • Develop a "Boundary Blueprint" where you map out scenarios you frequently encounter and pre-plan your boundary responses. For example, if you often get asked to work late, decide in advance what your limits are and script a polite but firm refusal. This way, you're prepared and can assert your boundaries confidently without the stress of coming up with a response on the spot.
  • Start a "Boundary Diary" to track when you say yes or no each day, noting how you felt and the outcome. This can help you see patterns in your behavior, understand the consequences of maintaining or not maintaining your boundaries, and adjust your approach accordingly. For instance, if you notice saying yes to last-minute requests leaves you feeling resentful, you might decide to start saying no to such requests more often.
  • Create a "Boundary Buddy" system with a friend where you both commit to supporting each other's ...

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The role of self-love, self-trust, and identity development in overcoming people pleasing

Through discussions with Nick Pollard and others, this narrative explores the significance of self-trust and identity development in combating the habit of people pleasing.

Developing self-trust by keeping commitments to oneself and honoring one's own needs

Nick Pollard emphasizes the value of saying no and illustrates how agreeing to things out of a need for acceptance can interfere with honoring one's own needs. He notes as an example, his decision to get in shape as a way to prioritize his needs and develop self-trust. Williamson and Pollard discuss the importance of recognizing personal achievements to counteract the tendency to please others. Pollard suggests self-questioning to address and challenge core beliefs related to self-worth that influence people-pleasing behavior.

Recognizing and addressing the core belief of not being "enough" as a fundamental driver of people pleasing

Pollard speaks about the necessity of contending with the belief of not being "enough," which is a common underlying feeling in people pleasing. He expresses how battling with this sense of inferiority is an ongoing process. Furthermore, he mentions the importance of understanding and accepting oneself without constantly having to measure up to external expectations.

Allowing oneself to feel the full range of emotions, including discomfort and guilt, without judgment

Pollard advocates for embracing all emotions as informational rather than judging them negatively. Pollard recognizes the crucial role of sitting with emotions, especially the feeling of not being enough, which can quickly lead to self-sabotage. He suggests that feelings of guilt or discomfort when setting boundaries are important to assess—they may be reframed from negative sensations to indicators of positive change, like excitement for choosing oneself.

Reframing negative emotions as valuable feedback rather than flaws to be avoided

Pollard encourages embracing fear and overwhelm because without these emotions, one cannot exhibit courage or bravery. He stresses the importance of reframing guilt to understand its true nature—potentially excitement for making a self-affirming choice.

Focusing on self-invention and play to rediscover one's authentic preferences and identity

Pollard discusses the importance of self-invention through play in discovering joy and one's true pre ...

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  • While self-trust and identity development are important, they are not the only factors in overcoming people-pleasing; external support systems and therapy can also play significant roles.
  • Keeping commitments to oneself is valuable, but it's also important to remain flexible and adaptable to life's unpredictable nature.
  • Saying no is crucial, but it's equally important to learn how to say yes to opportunities that align with one's values, even if they initially cause discomfort.
  • Recognizing personal achievements is beneficial, but an overemphasis on self-validation can lead to narcissism or an inflated ego.
  • Challenging core beliefs is a complex process that might sometimes require professional help, not just self-questioning.
  • The belief of not being "enough" might be a driver of people-pleasing, but it's also possible that people-pleasing behaviors are driven by other factors, such as cultural or familial expectations.
  • Embracing all emotions is healthy, but there should also be strategies in place to manage overwhelming or destructive emotions.
  • Reframing negative emotions can be helpful, but it's also important to address the root causes of these emotions to ensure they are not repeatedly triggered.
  • Se ...

Actionables

  • Create a "No" jar where you add a small note or token every time you successfully decline a request that doesn't align with your priorities, turning the act of saying no into a tangible and rewarding experience.
    • This strategy makes the abstract concept of self-preservation more concrete. For example, if a friend asks you to help with a project but you're already overcommitted, politely decline and then add a note to your jar. Over time, you'll see a collection of moments where you honored your needs, which can boost your confidence in setting boundaries.
  • Start a personal achievements map by plotting out milestones, no matter how small, on a visual timeline or a digital app designed for goal tracking.
    • This can help you recognize and celebrate your own successes independently of others' approval. For instance, if you finish a book you've been reading or complete a workout routine, mark it on your map. Watching your progress can reinforce your sense of self-worth and achievement.
  • Engage in a weekly "emotion journaling" session where you write about the emotions yo ...

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