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#867 - Vani Hari - Exposing The Food Industry’s Dangerous Lies

By Chris Williamson

In this episode of the Modern Wisdom podcast, Vani Hari exposes how major food companies like Kellogg's and Subway include different, more harmful ingredients in products sold in the US compared to other countries. She explains that the food industry employs tactics like funding front groups and "independent experts" to discredit critics and silence opposition.

Hari also discusses her activism targeting companies to demand safer ingredients and how she's faced severe backlash, including personal attacks and threats. She offers recommendations for consumers, such as focusing on whole foods, reading ingredient lists carefully, and preparing more meals at home to avoid products with artificial ingredients.

#867 - Vani Hari - Exposing The Food Industry’s Dangerous Lies

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#867 - Vani Hari - Exposing The Food Industry’s Dangerous Lies

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Differing Food Standards and Ingredients Between the US and Other Countries

According to Vani Hari, Kellogg's and other US food companies use more harmful ingredients in their domestic products compared to international offerings. For example, Kellogg's cereals sold in the US contain artificial food dyes and the preservative BHT, both banned or restricted elsewhere due to health concerns.

Influence and Tactics of the Food Industry

Hari explains that the food industry funds front groups and "independent experts" to discredit critics exposing harmful ingredients. These groups employ tactics like character assassination, misinformation, and even physical intimidation to silence opposition. Hari highlights the FDA's reliance on industry data and lack of proper review for many food additives, including some approved decades ago.

Vani Hari's Efforts to Expose and Combat Food Industry Practices

Hari has targeted major companies like Kellogg's, Subway, and McDonald's to demand safer ingredients in their US products. Her activism led Subway to remove the controversial ingredient azodicarbonamide from their bread. Hari believes the industry exploits lax US regulations, violating moral and ethical obligations. She has faced severe backlash, including personal attacks and threats.

Recommendations for Consumers

Hari advises focusing on whole, minimally-processed foods and carefully reading ingredient lists. She suggests avoiding processed foods with artificial ingredients, preservatives, seed oils, and high fructose corn syrup. Hari recommends preparing more meals at home and says even on-the-go, consumers can make healthier choices by bringing homemade meals or seeking less-processed options.

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  • The use of certain food additives like artificial dyes and BHT is approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) based on their determination that these substances are safe for consumption at the levels used in foods.
  • The differences in food standards between the US and other countries can be attributed to varying regulatory approaches and risk assessments rather than a deliberate use of harmful ingredients.
  • Industry-funded research and the use of experts is a common practice across many sectors and does not inherently imply misconduct or the dissemination of misinformation.
  • The FDA's reliance on industry data for food additive approval is a standard regulatory practice, leveraging the resources and research capabilities of the industry while also conducting its own independent reviews.
  • The presence of a food additive in a product does not necessarily mean the product is unsafe; safety is determined by the amount and context in which the additive is used.
  • Companies may reformulate their products in response to consumer demand and changing market trends, not solely due to activism.
  • Some argue that the presence of certain additives, like azodicarbonamide in bread, at approved levels does not pose a significant health risk and that their removal is more about public perception than science-based safety concerns.
  • Critics may argue that the food industry's compliance with US regulations, even if perceived as lax, does not constitute a violation of moral and ethical obligations but rather adherence to the legal standards set by the governing bodies.
  • While focusing on whole, minimally-processed foods is generally considered healthy, processed foods can also be part of a balanced diet, and not all artificial ingredients or preservatives are harmful.
  • Preparing meals at home and avoiding processed foods may not be feasible for all consumers due to factors like time constraints, economic limitations, or lack of access to fresh ingredients.

Actionables

  • You can start a "kitchen garden" to grow your own herbs and vegetables, ensuring you have access to fresh, unprocessed ingredients. By planting easy-to-grow items like basil, tomatoes, and lettuce, you'll not only have a convenient source of fresh produce but also gain a better understanding of what goes into your food. This hands-on approach can make you more mindful of the ingredients in your meals and encourage healthier eating habits.
  • Develop a habit of using a mobile app that scans and explains food labels and additives, so you can make informed choices while shopping. Apps like this often have a database of additives and preservatives, providing you with immediate insight into the potential health impacts of the ingredients in your food. By scanning products before you buy them, you can avoid those with harmful substances and opt for safer alternatives.
  • Organize a monthly "real food" potluck with friends or family where everyone brings a dish made from whole, minimally-processed ingredients. This social event not only promotes the sharing of healthier food but also serves as a platform for exchanging recipes, cooking techniques, and ideas for reducing reliance on processed foods. It can help build a community of like-minded individuals who support each other in making better food choices.

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Differing food standards and ingredients between the US and other countries

Vani Hari and others have brought attention to the discrepancies between food standards in the United States and other countries, particularly focusing on how Kellogg's and other US food companies use more harmful or controversial ingredients in domestic products than their international counterparts.

Kellogg's uses more toxic and harmful ingredients in its US cereal products compared to its products sold in other countries

Kellogg's cereals sold in the US contain artificial food dyes and the preservative BHT, which are banned or restricted in other countries due to health concerns

Vani Hari points out that Kellogg's cereals sold in the United States include artificial food dyes linked to hyperactivity in children. These are so concerning in Europe that products containing such dyes require a warning label about potential adverse effects on activity and attention in children. Furthermore, artificial food dyes have been found to contain carcinogens, which are linked to cancer, autoimmune disorders, eczema, and asthma. In addition to dyes, Kellogg's uses the preservative BHT in the cereal bags in the US, which can serve as an endocrine disruptor. This preservative is not used in other countries.

Hari discussed visiting Kellogg's headquarters with 400,000 signatures to request the removal of artificial food dyes and BHT from their US products. She criticized the use of petroleum coal tar-based dyes, which are cheaper than natural juices used in other countries. Hari stressed that the FDA has relied on safety data provided by food companies, without third-party regulation, and has not reviewed artificial dyes like Red Number 40 since 1971.

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  • Different regulatory standards: The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has its own set of regulations and risk assessments that may differ from those of other countries, which can lead to different ingredient approvals.
  • Scientific evidence and consensus: Some argue that the levels of artificial dyes and preservatives like BHT used in food products are within safe limits as determined by current scientific consensus and regulatory assessments in the United States.
  • Cost and availability: The use of certain artificial ingredients may be driven by cost-effectiveness and availability, which can affect the price and shelf-life of food products, potentially making them more accessible to a wider range of consumers.
  • Consumer preferences: Food companies may tailor their products to the tastes and preferences of different markets, which can lead to variations in ingredients between countries.
  • Ongoing research: The body of research on food additives is continually evolving, and what is considered harmful or controversial can change as new studies are published and reviewed.
  • Legal and cultural differences: The legal frameworks and cultural attitudes toward food additives can vary significantly between countries, influencing which substances are permitted or restricted.
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Actionables

  • You can start a personal food diary to track ingredients and their effects on your health, noting any changes in your well-being when consuming products free from artificial dyes and preservatives. By keeping a detailed record over a few weeks, you'll be able to see patterns that may correlate with the consumption of certain additives, helping you make more informed choices about the foods you eat.
  • Create a shopping guide for yourself that lists alternative products and brands that don't use the controversial ingredients mentioned, such as BHT or artificial dyes. This guide can be a simple spreadsheet or a note on your phone, which you can refer to while grocery shopping to ensure you're selecting healthier options for you and your family.
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Influence and tactics of the food industry to avoid regulation and accountability

The food industry employs aggressive tactics to defend their products and policies from regulation and public scrutiny, as described by Vani Hari.

The food industry funds front groups and "independent experts" to discredit and attack activists and critics who expose harmful ingredients

Vani Hari explains that the food industry has established reputable-sounding groups to defend the presence of chemicals in food and to execute character assassination on critics. These groups operate with backing from substantial corporate entities such as Big Pharma, Big Chem, and Big Food. Their primary function is to confuse the public into thinking that consuming chemicals in food is acceptable.

One example Hari notes is the American Council of Science and Health, which has accepted money from major corporations like Kellogg’s, Coca-Cola, Bayer, Syngenta, and McDonald’s. This council has been known to target critics, including Hari herself, who speaks up regarding harmful ingredients in food products.

The food industry employs tactics like character assassination, "fake news", and physical intimidation to silence opposition

Hari recounts her experiences of being targeted by these organizations and so-called independent experts who worked to discredit her advocacy against chemicals in food. They launched personal attacks, labeling her pseudo-scientific and calling into question her qualifications, in what amounts to character assassination.

Another incident involved a lobbyist known as Dr. Evil who campaigned against Hari and her stance on food industry practices. She speaks of derogatory articles that not only attacked her advocacy work but also resorted to comments on her appearance and meritless headlines such as "Food Bimbo."

Moreover, Hari has faced severe harassment, including death threats, rape threats, and incidents where her personal security was jeopardized, making security measures necessary at every public engagement.

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  • The American Council of Science and Health and similar organizations argue that they provide a necessary counterbalance to what they view as fearmongering and misinformation about food ingredients and technology.
  • Some experts contend that industry funding does not necessarily equate to bias, and that many industry-funded studies are conducted with rigorous scientific standards.
  • It is argued that characterizing all criticism as "character assassination" or "fake news" may overlook legitimate scientific debates and disagreements about food safety and nutrition.
  • Proponents of the current regulatory system suggest that the FDA's reliance on industry data is practical due to resource constraints and that there are checks and balances in place to ensure the integrity of the data.
  • Some industry representatives claim that the FDA's approval process for food additives is based on a thorough assessment of the evidence and that the system allows for re-evaluation of substances as ne ...

Actionables

  • You can become a more informed consumer by starting a personal food diary that tracks not only what you eat but also the companies and ingredients behind each product. This will help you identify patterns in your consumption and make more conscious choices. For example, if you notice a particular brand frequently appears in your diary and you've learned they're involved in unethical practices, you can choose to support an alternative.
  • Develop a habit of cross-referencing food additive information using independent databases and studies available through university libraries or open-access journals. When you encounter an unfamiliar ingredient on a food label, take a moment to look it up in these resources rather than relying solely on industry-funded data. This way, you can make decisions based on a broader range of information.
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Efforts of activists like Vani Hari to expose and combat food industry practices

Activist Vani Hari has been at the forefront of a movement to expose and improve food industry practices. Recognizing the industry's exploitation and the obligation to provide safer products, Hari's campaigns have led to significant changes in how major food companies formulate their products in the US.

Vani Hari has targeted major food companies like Kellogg's, Subway, and McDonald's to demand they use safer ingredients in their US products

Vani Hari, for over a decade, has been calling on Kellogg's to provide safer versions of their cereals in the United States, equivalent to those offered in other countries. Despite Kellogg's 2015 announcement to remove artificial dyes by 2018, Hari reported that the company failed to follow through. Instead, Kellogg's launched new cereals targeting children without addressing the safety of their core products.

Hari's impact extends beyond Kellogg's; she held a march to their headquarters and launched successful petitions against Subway, demanding the removal of harmful chemicals such as azodicarbonamide from their bread—a campaign that inspired widespread reform in the industry.

Hari's activism has led to some companies, like Subway, removing controversial ingredients from their US offerings

Specifically, Subway responded to Hari's petition by agreeing to remove azodicarbonamide from their bread, a decision that rippled through the bread manufacturing industry across America.

Hari believes the food industry's exploitation of lax US regulations is a moral and ethical breach, and that companies have an obligation to provide safer products to American consumers

Hari is vocal about the moral and ethical responsibility companies have to offer safer products to American consumers, especially since they already do so in other countries to comply with stricter regulations. Her personal health transformation is used as a testament to the benefits of avoiding processed foods.

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  • Hari's approach has been criticized for not always being grounded in scientific consensus, which could lead to misinformation.
  • Some argue that the focus on individual ingredients may oversimplify complex nutritional science and public health issues.
  • Critics might point out that food reformulation can be a lengthy and complex process, and companies may face technical challenges in removing certain ingredients without affecting product quality.
  • There is a perspective that suggests activists like Hari could inadvertently contribute to food fearmongering, which can have negative effects on consumers' relationship with food.
  • It's argued that some of Hari's campaigns may not take into account the broader context of food science and regulation, potentially leading to demands that are not aligned with the most current scientific understanding.
  • Some critics believe that the food industry is already highly regulated and that companies are constantly working to improve their products within the constraints of these regulations.
  • There is a viewpoint that suggests market forces, rather than activism, are ...

Actionables

  • You can start a food diary to track ingredients and their effects on your health, noting any changes in well-being when consuming or avoiding processed foods. This personal record helps you identify patterns and make informed decisions about your diet. For example, if you notice digestive discomfort after eating foods with artificial dyes, you might choose to eliminate them and see if your symptoms improve.
  • Create a simple blog or social media page to share your experiences with ingredient transparency and food choices. By documenting your journey, you encourage others to consider the impact of their food purchases and consumption. You might post about a new recipe you tried that substitutes a common processed ingredient with a natural one, inspiring your followers to do the same.
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Recommendations for consumers on making healthier food choices

Vani Hari provides advice to consumers on how to make healthier food choices amidst a market filled with processed options. She emphasizes the value of real food and the importance of understanding ingredient lists.

Hari advises consumers to focus on eating whole, minimally-processed foods and to carefully read ingredient lists

Hari promotes eating a diet rich in whole, minimally processed foods and cautions against packaged foods containing artificial ingredients, preservatives, seed oils, and high fructose corn syrup. She warns that packaged food with more than five ingredients could potentially be harmful and that many of these additives lack sufficient safety data. Consumers are encouraged to consume organic fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, legumes, whole grains, pasture-raised eggs, grass-fed cheeses, yogurts, and meats.

Consumers should avoid processed foods containing artificial ingredients, preservatives, seed oils, and high fructose corn syrup

Hari advises reading labels to avoid unrecognizable or non-nutritious ingredients. She uses monodiglycerides, often found in processed foods, as an example of what to avoid. Even on-the-go or in social situations, consumers can choose whole foods over processed options, such as a banana, apple, or plain almonds. By controlling 80% of their food intake with healthy choices, consumers can provide themselves some flexibility in the other 20%.

Hari suggests preparing more meals at home using simple, recognizable ingredients as a way to bypass the food industry's tactics

Hari is a proponent of home cooking, recommending her cookbooks for fast, real food recipes that families can enjoy together. She suggests planning out meals and having five or six go-to recipes ready to prevent last-minute fast food choices. Consumers are encouraged to make their ...

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  • While whole, minimally-processed foods are generally healthier, not all processed foods are harmful, and some can be part of a balanced diet.
  • The "five-ingredient rule" may be overly simplistic, as some healthy foods naturally contain more than five ingredients.
  • Organic foods can be more expensive and may not be accessible to everyone, and some research suggests that they may not always be significantly more nutritious than conventionally grown produce.
  • Not all artificial ingredients and preservatives are harmful; some are well-tested and deemed safe by regulatory agencies like the FDA.
  • Seed oils and high fructose corn syrup are often criticized, but they can be consumed in moderation within a balanced diet.
  • The recommendation to shop around the perimeter of the grocery store might overlook healthy options available in the inner aisles, such as frozen vegetables, whole grains, and legumes.
  • Home cooking is ideal but may not be feasible for everyone due to time constraints, lack of cooking skills, or other factors.
  • The advice to bring personal dishes to social events may not always be practical or socially acceptable in all setting ...

Actionables

  • You can start a "whole food swap" challenge with friends where each person brings a dish made from whole foods to share and exchange recipes. This encourages trying new whole foods and learning how to prepare them in a social setting, making the transition to healthier eating more enjoyable and less isolating.
  • Create a "kitchen garden" with easy-to-grow herbs and vegetables like basil, mint, or tomatoes, even if it's just in small pots on a windowsill. This not only ensures you have fresh, organic ingredients at hand but also connects you more deeply with the food you consume, making you more likely to choose these items over processed alternatives.
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