How to Find & Be a Great Romantic Partner | Lori Gottlieb
In this episode of the Huberman Lab podcast, the conversation explores personal development, relationships, and the human experience. Therapist Lori Gottlieb shares insights on cultivating self-awareness through mindfulness, self-reflection, and self-compassion. She emphasizes the importance of emotional intelligence and regulation skills for successful relationships.
Gottlieb and host Andrew Huberman also discuss the value of living a meaningful, present-focused life aligned with one's values. They offer perspectives on navigating grief, loss, and mortality while embracing life's uncertainties. Throughout the episode, Gottlieb highlights the transformative power of personal growth and understanding our shared humanity.
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Self-Awareness and Personal Growth
Lori Gottlieb highlights the necessity of self-reflection and facing the past to understand behaviors. She advocates practicing mindfulness, choosing thoughtful responses over reactions, and developing self-compassion paired with accountability.
Emotional Awareness and Regulation in Relationships
Gottlieb emphasizes self-regulation skills like pausing emotional outbursts, and co-regulation where partners help each other remain calm. She advocates curiosity over accusation in communication, and stresses the importance of physical presence and non-verbal cues.
Living a Meaningful and Vital Life
Huberman and Gottlieb suggest confronting mortality to inspire purposeful living. They advise cultivating flexibility, present-moment gratitude, and making choices aligned with deepest values over seeking ideals. Gottlieb urges overcoming the fear of uncertainty.
Navigating Grief and Loss in Relationships
Gottlieb notes there's no uniform grieving process - emotions manifest diversely. She advocates "moving forward" by incorporating memories and lessons into one's life narrative, not trying to "move on." Huberman and Gottlieb warn against judging others' grief based on perceived validity of their loss.
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- While self-reflection is valuable, excessive rumination on the past can sometimes hinder progress and lead to increased anxiety or depression.
- Mindfulness is beneficial, but it may not be suitable for everyone, and some individuals may find other strategies more effective for managing their thoughts and emotions.
- Thoughtful responses are ideal, but there are situations where quick decisions and reactions are necessary, and overthinking can be counterproductive.
- Self-compassion is important, but it should be balanced with a realistic self-assessment to avoid complacency or lack of personal growth.
- Emotional regulation is crucial, but it's also important to recognize and validate emotions rather than suppress them, as this can lead to emotional bottlenecks.
- Co-regulation in relationships is helpful, but it's also essential for individuals to develop their own emotional self-sufficiency.
- Non-verbal cues are significant, but over-reliance on them can lead to misinterpretation, especially in cross-cultural contexts where gestures and body language may differ.
- Confronting mortality can inspire purposeful living, but it can also lead to existential anxiety for some individuals.
- Flexibility and present-moment gratitude are valuable, but long-term planning and consideration of future consequences are also important for a balanced life.
- Making choices aligned with deepest values is advisable, but sometimes practical considerations or responsibilities may necessitate compromise.
- Overcoming the fear of uncertainty is a noble goal, but a certain level of caution and risk assessment is prudent for decision-making.
- While incorporating memories and lessons into one's life narrative is a healthy way to deal with grief, some individuals may need to "move on" in a more traditional sense to find closure.
- It's important not to judge others' grief, but offering support sometimes requires understanding the context and magnitude of the loss to provide appropriate empathy and assistance.
Actionables
- You can create a "Mindful Response Journal" where you jot down situations that trigger you and draft thoughtful responses for future scenarios. This practice helps you prepare for similar events and trains you to respond thoughtfully rather than react impulsively. For example, if a work email typically triggers a knee-jerk reaction, write down a more considered response you could use next time, focusing on clarity and respect.
- Develop a "Compassion Accountability Plan" by pairing self-compassionate statements with actionable steps for improvement. If you notice you're being hard on yourself for a mistake, write down a compassionate acknowledgment of your feelings, followed by a concrete step to address the mistake. For instance, if you missed a deadline, you might write, "I understand I'm feeling stressed because I missed this deadline, but I will organize my tasks better moving forward by using a planner."
- Initiate a "Curiosity Conversation Challenge" with friends or family where you replace accusations with questions in your discussions for a week. This can transform the dynamic of your conversations and lead to deeper understanding. When a friend is late to a meeting, instead of accusing them of being inconsiderate, ask what held them up and listen to their explanation, fostering a more empathetic dialogue.
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Self-Awareness and Personal Growth
Lori Gottlieb explores the necessity of self-awareness for personal growth, emphasizing the importance of introspection and facing the past to understand current behaviors.
Self-Reflection and Discipline for Personal Insight
Gottlieb notes that therapy requires a willingness to reflect on oneself. People often want change but seek to change something or someone else, not themselves. In couples therapy, she asks individuals what they want to work on within themselves.
Mindfulness and Intentional Thinking to Uncover Personal Narratives
Gottlieb discusses the importance of understanding that change is a process and outlines the stages of change to aid reflection. She recommends intentionally choosing a different response to build new automatic pathways leading to better outcomes. This requires practicing mindfulness to develop new personal narratives and being scrupulously honest with oneself.
Addressing Unfinished Business From the Past
Gottlieb points out that many individuals carry narratives that are based on past experiences that influence current perceptions and interactions. People are often not skilled at accessing their feelings because they are talked out of them from a young age, resulting in misunderstanding the role of feelings in guiding decisions.
How Past Experiences Shape Current Patterns
The concept that people marry their unfinished business is explored by Gottlieb. People who have unresolved experiences with an avoidant or withdrawn parent may find themselves drawn to a partner with similar behaviors. This unconscious attraction to familiar characteristics often doesn't work out because it attempts to win love from a person similar to the one who didn't meet their needs in the past.
Gottlieb and Andrew discuss how past hurtful experiences—particularly with parents—can influence an individual's romantic partner choices. Gottlieb notes that it's often the hurt from one parent that influences behaviors and choices the most.
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- While self-awareness is important, it is not the only factor in personal growth; external circumstances and opportunities also play a significant role.
- Therapy can be beneficial, but it is not the only path to self-reflection or change; some individuals may find growth through other means such as spirituality, mentorship, or self-help.
- Change can be a process, but some changes can also occur rapidly or spontaneously without the need for intentional responses or mindfulness practices.
- While past experiences can influence current behaviors, it is also possible for individuals to break free from these patterns without necessarily revisiting or resolving their past.
- The idea that people marry their unfinished business is an oversimplification; relationships are complex and there can be many reasons why individuals are drawn to certain partners.
- Parental influence is significant, but individuals are also shaped by a wide range of experiences beyond their relationships with their parents.
- Self-compassion and ...
Actionables
- Start a "narrative journal" to track and challenge your personal stories. Write down recurring thoughts or beliefs about yourself, especially those that seem to stem from past experiences. Next to each, jot down evidence that contradicts these beliefs or shows personal growth. This practice can help you identify and rewrite negative narratives.
- Create a "response menu" for common situations where you seek different outcomes. For example, if you tend to get defensive during feedback at work, list alternative responses such as asking clarifying questions or expressing gratitude for the opportunity to improve. Refer to this menu during or before such situations to practice choosing a different response.
- Develop a "self-compassion reminder" system using daily a ...
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Emotional Awareness and Regulation in Relationships
Emotional intelligence is a cornerstone of healthy relationships. Lori Gottlieb and Andrew Huberman delve into the essentials of emotional awareness and regulation, discussing how individuals can foster better connections with their partners.
Prioritizing Self-Regulation and Co-regulation Skills In Relationships
Self-awareness and co-regulation are fundamental skills that Gottlieb and Huberman highlight as key for maintaining balanced relationships.
Pausing and Resisting Emotional Reactions, Responding Thoughtfully
Gottlieb discusses the value of self-regulation in relationships, emphasizing how one's anger can highlight crossed boundaries or dissatisfaction with personal behavior. She advocates for responding to emotions productively rather than resorting to destructive outbursts. Co-regulation, observed in parent-child dynamics, also plays an essential role in adult relationships. A regulated partner can help the other with co-regulation, providing stability without taking responsibility for the other's emotions.
Gottlieb and Huberman agree that during conflict, it's essential to have at least one partner remain calm to avoid mutual dysregulation. If necessary, pausing an argument can give time for both parties to return to a regulated state before continuing.
Gottlieb underlines the difference between reacting and responding, urging individuals to create space between a stimulus and their reaction to choose a thoughtful response. This can prevent projecting historical reactions onto present situations. Learning to calibrate one's emotional thermostat helps individuals respond appropriately to situations.
Emotional Communication and Empathy
Gottlieb describes the difference between sharing every thought unfiltered and engaging in considerate, healthy communication, which requires filters and thoughtfulness about the impact on others. Huberman mentions the importance of not attempting to influence another's emotions without an invitation. Additionally, Gottlieb points out that understanding each other's “operating instructions” and preferred support methods are crucial for a responsive and empathetic relationship.
Avoid Projecting Feelings or Unloading Emotions Onto Partner
Partners should avoid placing blame or projecting negative assumptions. Instead, Gottlieb encourages curiosity about the other person's experiences. Healthy communication is about posing questions rather than accusations, which contributes to a clearer understanding without superimposing one's own story as the definitive truth.
Gottlieb also identifies behaviors that obstruct effective communication, such as passive-aggressive silence or manipulative crying. Rather than focusing on a partner's character when conflicts arise, it is more constructive to address specific actions separately.
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- While emotional intelligence is important, some argue that cognitive intelligence also plays a significant role in relationship success, as it can contribute to problem-solving and effective communication.
- Self-awareness and co-regulation are valuable, but overemphasis on these skills might lead to excessive introspection or dependency, potentially neglecting other aspects of a relationship such as shared interests or values.
- Pausing during conflicts is generally beneficial, but in some cases, it might be perceived as avoidance or unwillingness to address issues, which could exacerbate tensions.
- The distinction between reacting and responding might not always be clear-cut, as some situations may require immediate reactions, and not all spontaneous reactions are unproductive.
- While understanding preferred support methods is important, it's also necessary to recognize that these preferences can change over time, and flexibility is required.
- Encouraging curiosity over projection is sound advice, but it's also important to acknowledge that sometimes individuals may accurately perceive their partner's emotions based on past experiences.
- Non-verbal cues are important, but for some individuals, especially those with certain disabilities or who are neurodiverse, these cues might be difficult to interpret, making other forms of communication more reliable.
- Arguing that te ...
Actionables
- Create a "Pause Button" habit by setting a timer for 30 seconds when you feel a conflict escalating, using this time to breathe deeply and consider your response. This practice helps you shift from a reactive state to a more thoughtful one, reducing the chance of saying something you might regret. For example, when a disagreement starts, say "Let's pause for a moment," start the timer, and use the half-minute to calm your emotions.
- Develop a "Support Language" profile for yourself and share it with your partner, detailing how you prefer to give and receive support during tough times. This could be a simple document or note that lists actions, phrases, or gestures that resonate with you emotionally. For instance, you might note that you prefer a hug and a listening ear rather than advice when you're upset.
- Initiate a "Tech-Free Talk" w ...
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Living a Meaningful and Vital Life
Andrew Huberman and Lori Gottlieb explore the concept of living a meaningful and vital life by embracing mortality, fostering flexibility, and making choices that resonate with one’s deepest values and life goals.
Embracing Mortality To Foster Purpose and Vitality
Confronting Death Denial to Inspire Positive Change
Huberman discusses Ernst Becker's central thesis in "The Denial of Death," which suggests that humans create narratives to distract themselves from the reality of death. He notes that the awareness of our mortality might be the reason why people are willing to stay in unsatisfactory circumstances to avoid facing the unknown. Meanwhile, Gottlieb talks about death denial and how most people act as if they will live forever, despite knowing intellectually that they won't. She suggests that the awareness of death can help people live more fully and intentionally because life could end at any moment. Gottlieb mentions that acknowledging mortality can inspire vitality instead of depression. Huberman further describes his own practice of contemplating death to help him live better.
Cultivating Openness, Flexibility, and Present Moment Appreciation
Focusing On Gratitude Instead Of Seeking Better Alternatives
Gottlieb emphasizes the importance of flexibility within relationships and accepting that individuals and relationships evolve over time. She warns against insisting that everything remains the same, as it can lead to problems. Huberman illustrates a focus on present moment appreciation and gratitude through enjoying simple everyday activities. Both Gottlieb and Huberman discuss the dangers of "maximizers" who are never satisfied and are always seeking something better, leading to a lack of gratitude. Huberman underscores the importance of understanding one's irritations and focusing on the present moment.
Choices Aligned With Deepest Values and Life Goals
Overcoming Fear of Uncertainty and Clinging To Unfulfilling Familiarity
Gottlieb uses the metaphor of prisoners preferring known misery to the unknown freedom to discuss how people might stick with the familiar due t ...
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- While embracing mortality can inspire positive change, some individuals may find that too much focus on death can lead to anxiety or paralysis rather than vitality.
- Flexibility in relationships is important, but there must also be a balance with maintaining personal boundaries and not compromising core values for the sake of adaptability.
- Present moment appreciation is valuable, but it's also important to plan for the future and learn from the past to ensure personal growth and stability.
- The concept of not being a "maximizer" and appreciating what one has is beneficial, but ambition and striving for improvement can also be healthy and lead to personal and societal advancements.
- Overcoming fear of uncertainty is crucial, but caution and risk assessment are also necessary to avoid reckless decisions that could have negative consequences.
- Making choices aligned with one's deepest values and life goals is ideal, but it's also important to recognize that sometimes practical considerations or responsibilities may require compromise.
- Openness in relationships is key, but it's also important to have clear st ...
Actionables
- You can create a "Mortality Mindfulness Jar" where you write down daily actions that align with your values and draw one each morning to focus on for the day. This tangible reminder helps you live intentionally by connecting everyday activities to your larger life goals. For example, if one of your values is kindness, you might write "Compliment a stranger" and make a point to do so that day.
- Start a "Flexibility Journal" to practice adapting to changes in relationships and life. Each week, write about a situation where things didn't go as planned and how you adapted to it. This could be as simple as your partner canceling dinner plans and you deciding to use the time to try a new recipe instead, fostering an appreciation for the unexpected.
- Initiate a "Gratitude Mapping" routine where you map out th ...
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Navigating Grief and Loss in Relationships
Lori Gottlieb and Andrew Huberman delve into the complex emotions that accompany grief and loss in relationships, especially the changes and lasting impact these experiences have on individuals.
Understanding Grief's Complexity and Embracing Self-Compassion
Embracing Diverse Grieving Processes and Emotions
Gottlieb underscores that there is no uniform way to grieve a loss and emphasizes that different individuals will experience and process grief uniquely. She insists that these diverse grieving processes should be honored and understood as natural, even if they persist throughout life.
Focusing On "Moving Forward" Rather Than "Moving On"
Incorporating Memory and Impact of Lost Relationships Into Life Story
Gottlieb notes that after a breakup, individuals often have to deal with the sudden loss of a shared future they had been envisioning with their partner. She explains that moving forward involves recognizing the role one played in the relationship’s outcome and choosing to incorporate those memories and lessons into one's life narrative rather than trying to forget the past.
Reflecting on her own experiences, she realizes that during the relationship, she neglected to acknowledge the aspects that contributed to its positive foundation, such as the "bank of goodwill." But after the separation, these once-overlooked elements become poignant memories that shape her ongoing life story.
Avoiding the Tendency to Compare or Judge Grieving
Grief Manifests Differently for Each Person
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- While it is important to honor individual grieving processes, there may be cases where a person's way of coping is unhealthy or self-destructive, and intervention could be beneficial.
- The concept of integrating memories and lessons from a past relationship into one's life narrative might not be suitable for everyone, as some individuals may find it more healing to distance themselves from the past.
- Reflecting on the positive aspects of a past relationship can be beneficial, but for some, it might also lead to idealizing the past and hinder the acceptance of the present.
- While grief is deeply personal, there can be value in shared cultural or communal grieving practices that provide support and a sense of belonging.
- Comparing grief can sometimes help individuals feel less alone if they find others with similar experiences, though it should be done with sensitivity and without minimizing anyone's pain.
- There may be instances where outward appearances of grief are relevant to understanding a person's mental state, especially in clinical settings where assessment is necessar ...
Actionables
- Create a personal grief journal to explore your unique grieving process. By writing down your thoughts and feelings regularly, you can observe the diversity in your own grieving without judgment. For example, you might write about sudden waves of emotion or the impact of a past relationship on your current perspective, which can help you integrate these experiences into your life narrative.
- Develop a 'memory integration ritual' to honor past relationships. This could involve creating a small, private ceremony where you reflect on the lessons and positive aspects of a relationship that has ended. You might light a candle, play a song that was significant to the relationship, or write a letter of gratitude to the relationship for what it taught you.
- Start a peer support group focused on sharing and respecting d ...
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