Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade welcomes comedian Nick Swardson in this episode. The three comedians share personal stories from their early days in stand-up, from mortifying bomb sets to enduring difficult crowds. They discuss the value of having a go-to crowd-winning bit — for Swardson, his cat vomit impression often rescued a struggling show after a risqué opener.
The episode also features humorous anecdotes like Swardson's high-altitude struggles and memorable moments on Adam Sandler films. The conversation turns to the creative process, touching on the freedom of improv versus scripted work and the pressure to constantly develop new relevant material. Whether reflecting on their comedic journeys or the challenges of maintaining a fresh act, the comedians provide an inside perspective on the comedy world.
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Nick Swardson and Dana Carvey share challenging early stand-up experiences like bombing and tough crowds, which Swardson says toughened his approach. Dana Carvey hints at performing unconventional gigs.
Swardson recalls a mortifying bomb at the Comedy Cellar before his Conan appearance, which other comics laughed at. Carvey nods to gigs like opening for bands.
David Spade underscores the value of having a reliable, audience-winning bit. Swardson says his cat vomit impression often saved sets after explicit openers.
The comedians share lighthearted stories involving Adam Sandler films, like Carvey's "jinx" cameos and Swardson landing roles. Spade recalls Norm Macdonald humorously saying Spade wanted to bathe with him.
Swardson describes struggling on stage in Aspen due to altitude sickness after taking an edible, which media outlets covered.
The comedians reflect on the liberation of improv on shows like Reno 911 versus scripted work. Swardson would try outrageous lines to make castmates break.
Spade and Swardson discuss moving beyond a signature bit to create a fresh full hour. The comedians acknowledge constantly working on new material is essential.
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Nick Swardson and Dana Carvey reflect on their early days in the world of stand-up comedy, sharing stories of battling tough crowds and developing their comedic voices, while David Spade underscores the importance of having a reliable bit or joke in a comedian's set.
Nick Swardson details his swift rise in comedy, including his early bombing experiences that helped toughen his approach to stand-up. At 19, he gained attention at the HBO Comedy Festival after only six months doing stand-up. This led to a performance at a venue in the Bay Area where Swardson bombed so badly that it led to a silent and awkward car ride back with his driver, who had previously excitedly compared him to Dana Carvey. Swardson's move to New York presented more challenges; he recalls brutal experiences, including being booed off stage, which his peers had warned would be a good place for cutting his teeth as a comedian.
In another instance, Swardson shares a particularly humbling experience bombing at the Comedy Cellar just before he was scheduled to perform on Conan O'Brien's show. The blow to his confidence was exacerbated by other comics laughing at his failure, which he took as another moment to toughen up.
Dana Carvey nods to similar experiences, confirming his acquaintance with John Fox, a booker who offered gigs up and down the coast. Carvey hints at the scarcity of ideal comedy venues by mentioning having to perform less conventional gigs, like opening for bands, a situation many comedians of his time had to navigate.
As Swardson ventured into stand-up in New York City, the contrast to his initial success in Minnesota was stark with frequent on-stage failures, including an incident where bombing led to silence from a formerly chatty driver. The encouragement of comedians like Kneeland and Judy Gold led him to New York, where he faced the city's notorious crowds and bitter comedy scene, further fortifying his comedic resolve.
David Spade and Nick Swardson discuss the pivotal role of having reliable material in the arsenal of a comedian. Spade discusses the grind of drawing in a tough audience and how a resonating bit can change an entire performance's trajectory.
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The comedians' personal journeys and experiences in the comedy world
Nick Swardson, Dana Carvey, and David Spade share memorable, light-hearted incidents from their time in the entertainment industry, many involving fellow comedian Adam Sandler.
Swardson reminisces about getting a call for a movie role in Hawaii alongside Jennifer Aniston in a half-German character, and Spade chips in about how a whisper of a potential role in a Sandler film usually solidifies into reality. Carvey recalls his cameos in Sandler movies that underperformed at the box office, jokingly referring to himself as a jinx. The veterans laugh about their misjudgments regarding the box office success of "Jack and Jill" and "That's My Boy." Additionally, they touch upon Swardson's participation in hits like "Just Go With It," "Click," and "Grown Ups 2," as Spade reminds him.
Carvey expresses admiration for Sandler's full commitment to his roles, as seen in "Jack and Jill," and Swardson discusses the cult favorite "Grandma's Boy," which he wrote, and its unexpected post-theatrical success.
Spade recounts how Norm Macdonald invited him to chat in his bathtub after a show, an invitation he declined due to how it might look. The next day, Macdonald humorously claimed in a group chat that it was Spade who wanted to take a bath with him.
Memorable moments and anecdotes from their careers
David Spade, Nick Swardson, and Dana Carvey dive into the nuances of the comedic creative process, highlighting the delights of improvisation and the hurdles of maintaining innovation in their routines.
The comedians open up about their experiences with improvisational comedy and the liberation it offers compared to the confines of scripted performances.
Spade and Swardson recall the freedom they savored while filming "Reno 911," a sharp contrast to the predictable nature of scripted work. They highlight the fact that missing a word can result in immediate correction on a typical set, whereas "Reno 911" established a very different dynamic. Dana Carvey echoes this sentiment, valuing environments where every take can be original and unrestricted, steering clear of the monotonous recitation of fixed lines.
Swardson shares anecdotes about how the largely ad-libbed nature of "Reno 911" allowed for spontaneous comedy. Reminiscing about the film adaptation, he mentions receiving a largely barebones 15-page script, more of an outline of locations than scripted dialogue. This open structure offered a unique take with each performance, far from the tediousness of a conventional shooting day. He recounts with delight his attempts to provoke laughter from his castmates by pushing the envelope and leveraging his character's absurdity.
Amidst the joy that comes with improvisation, the comedians also shed light on the pressures they face to remain relevant and keep their material contemporary.
The creative process and challenges of being a comedian
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