Join David Spade and Dana Carvey as they delve into the creative chaos of classic comedy in their podcast "Fly on the Wall." In this captivating episode, they sit down with comedy legend Michael McKean, one of the brilliant minds behind the iconic mockumentary "This is Spinal Tap." Hear firsthand about the genesis of the film's humor and the fascinating process of developing characters through improv - an approach so integral to the film that actor Eddie Deason stepped back from a role preferring a more scripted environment. McKean also reminisces about the challenges and triumphs of adopting British accents, underscoring the essential role of spontaneity in crafting the film's enduring comedic appeal.
But it's not all about "This is Spinal Tap." McKean shares tales from a multitude of career highlights, including his unique monologue on "Saturday Night Live" and behind-the-scenes anecdotes from the film "Coneheads" with Dan Aykroyd. From the genesis of his enduring friendship with Chris Guest—rooted in a shared love for the relics of old show business—to a break-down of his critically acclaimed performance as Chuck McGill in "Better Call Saul," this episode offers a multifaceted look at McKean's diverse career. It's a journey full of laughter, insights, and rare glimpses behind the curtain with one of comedy's most influential players.
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The mockumentary "This is Spinal Tap" is renowned for its humor and improvisation. During Dana Carvey's audition, the cast orchestrated a gag involving exits and re-entries that exemplified the film's spontaneous nature. Michael McKean reflects on these auditions and the essence of the characters, which was often influenced by the actors themselves. Eddie Deason, offered a role, declined due to the film's improvisational style, further evidencing the flexible approach to character development. The British accents adopted by the cast contributed significantly to the humor, evolving naturally through the film's improvisational environment.
Hosting "Saturday Night Live" in 1985, Michael McKean performed an 18th-century Scottish dirge instead of a traditional comedic monologue. The somber mood was shattered by Larry David's heckling, leading to a memorable and comedic moment when David shouted, “Hey Hamlet, where’s Squiggy?” referencing McKean's iconic role in "Laverne & Shirley." This incident highlighted the comedians' playful chemistry.
The "Coneheads" film presented Michael McKean and David Spade with unique anecdotes about working with Dan Aykroyd. While many celebrity cameos were filmed, McKean and Spade frequently interacted with Aykroyd. McKean recalls Aykroyd's commitment to character consistency, refusing to film without his character's gloves. Additionally, Aykroyd once lost his composure when his motorcycle-riding friends were not allowed on set. Spade recounted his nervousness and an unexpected case of chicken pox which halted production and recounted a sudden call back to New York from Lorne Michaels.
Michael McKean's friendship with Chris Guest emerged from their mutual interest in historical show business. Since the late 1960s, their bond has been strengthened by their fascination with "shitty old show business." Their shared passion encompasses the entirety of entertainment history and serves as a significant pastime in their lives, reflecting their deep connection to the world of vintage entertainment. They even pursued specific cultural artifacts like an "Eddie Cantor gift shop in Encino," demonstrating the depth of their interest.
Michael McKean's performance as Chuck McGill in "Better Call Saul," particularly his portrayal of Chuck's electromagnetic hypersensitivity, has been highly praised by Dana Carvey. Carvey jokingly wondered if co-star Bob Odenkirk attempted to sabotage McKean's impressive takes, emphasizing the quality of McKean's portrayal in the show.
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"This is Spinal Tap" remains a seminal work in the mockumentary genre, lauded for its humor and improvisational mastery.
Dana Carvey recalls the unconventional audition process for a role in "This is Spinal Tap," remembering how the cast ingeniously set up a comedic gag involving their exit and re-entrance during his tryout. The experience highlighted the film's off-the-cuff quality, which permeated through its creation and casting. Michael McKean reflects on Carvey's audition and admits that while they enjoyed his company, they ultimately found him too sophisticated for a fan part they had in mind. Notably, the character played by Eddie Deason was dropped after he turned down the role because of the improvisational demands of the film. This reveals the adaptable nature of the filmmaking, where the very essence of characters was being shaped by the personnel involved. Indeed, the character of the mime - which Carvey ended up playing - was birthed during these flexible casting sessions.
Origins and Improvisation of This is Spinal Tap
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When Michael McKean took the stage to host "Saturday Night Live" in 1985, his opening monologue took an unexpected turn. Instead of delivering a series of punchlines, McKean announced that he wasn’t a stand-up comedian and chose to perform something entirely different—an 18th-century Scottish a cappella dirge.
The somber performance was humorously interrupted by none other than Larry David, who decided to heckle McKean. The heckling led to a memorable and comedic line hollered at the e ...
Michael McKean's Hosting of Saturday Night Live (with Larry David heckling monologue anecdote)
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David Spade and Michael McKean share their experiences and memorable anecdotes about working with Dan Aykroyd on the set of "Coneheads".
While navigating their roles as NSA agents tasked with deporting the Coneheads, Spade and McKean most often shared scenes with Aykroyd and, therefore, were not present for many of the celebrity cameos. Despite this, they managed to accumulate their own share of memories from the production.
Michael McKean described a particular moment that displayed Aykroyd's meticulous attention to character. Following a lunch break, filming had resumed only for Aykroyd to realize he was not wearing the gloves integral to his costume. This slip prompted a quick adjustment, preserving the authenticity of Aykroyd’s alien persona.
On a less serious note, McKean detailed an incident that highlighted Aykroyd’s temperament and fondness for friends; Aykroyd, fully adorned in Conehead makeup, lost his composure when his motorcycle-riding friends were denied entry onto the set, leading to a heated exchange with the gate guard.
Spade added his personal tales of the shooting process, including his battle with nervousness and an ill-timed case of chicken pox. Not only did this result i ...
Coneheads Movie (including multiple anecdotes about working with Dan Aykroyd)
David Spade experienced nervousness and had an unfortunate case of chicken pox during the filming of "Coneheads." This led to a temporary stop in production, costing around $100,000 due to the delay. The combination ...
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Michael McKean reflects on his long-standing friendship with Chris Guest, which spans back to 1967, describing a deep connection fostered through a mutual fascination with the world of historical show business.
Michael McKean shares that he has known Chris Guest since the late 1960s, and at one point, they even lived together. He describes Guest as an unusual and enigmatic figure, not prone to self-promotion, yet exuding an aura of humor that is especially perceptible to those close to him or those who have the opportunity to work alongside him.
A foundational element of their friendship is their shared obsession with what McKean terms "shitty old show business." It is an interest not confined to any particular era but spans across the entire history of showbiz. This common passion is more than a passing amusement; it is a significant pastime that they actively pursue. McKean recalls times when they engaged deeply with their shared interest, such as searching for an "Eddi ...
McKean and Guest's Friendship and Shared Interest in Old Show Business
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Dana Carvey has extended high praise to Michael McKean for his portrayal of Chuck McGill on "Better Call Saul," particularly lauding a scene that highlighted Chuck's struggle with electromagnetic hypersensitivity. Inquiring about McKean's approach to the scene, C ...
McKean's Performance Breakdown as Chuck McGill on Better Call Saul
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