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Angelo Tsarouchas on Canada & Tipping + Aleks Pauvonic on Drake Passage & Nuclear Subs

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In this episode of the Adam Carolla Show, host Adam Carolla and guests Angelo Tsarouchas and Aleks Pauvonic engage in wide-ranging discussions. One segment focuses on declining airline services and labor shortages affecting various industries, exploring issues like cost-cutting measures and changing attitudes toward work. Another segment examines the differences between vintage and modern pornography, touching on topics such as performers' appearances and the impact of digital distribution.

The episode also delves into the rich history and culture of boxing, covering legends like Muhammad Ali and obscure details that showcase the guests' deep knowledge. Pauvonic shares his experiences working on movie and TV projects, including the challenges of filming in confined spaces and harsh Antarctic conditions.

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Angelo Tsarouchas on Canada & Tipping + Aleks Pauvonic on Drake Passage & Nuclear Subs

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Airline/service industry issues and labor shortages

Adam Carolla and guests discuss declining airline services and broader labor shortages. Carolla notes a lack of beverage service on Southwest flights, suspected as cost-cutting. Angelo Tsarouchas adds that airlines frequently invoke "safety" and "turbulence" as pretexts for reducing services.

Across industries, Carolla and Bode Strout observe labor shortages and reluctance to work, especially among younger generations. Carolla gives an anecdote about his unemployed son.

Carolla critiques businesses subtly pressuring higher tips. Tsarouchas warns of rising mandatory service charges disguised as tips. Both express frustration over expecting quality service.

Vintage vs. modern pornography

Carolla and Tsarouchas examine differences between vintage and modern porn. Carolla prefers vintage performers' natural looks over surgically-enhanced modern aesthetics. Yet, Tsarouchas notes vintage stars didn't foresee their work's permanence and reach through digital distribution.

Carolla suggests a "porn concierge" service to curate today's vast content landscape to consumer tastes.

Boxing history and culture

Aleks Pauvonic shares extensive knowledge of 1970s-1980s heavyweight boxing legends like Muhammad Ali, his favorite. Carolla recalls coaching boxing and working with fighter Mike Weaver.

Pauvonic highlights obscure trivia like fighter Joe Hipp's distinctive knee brace, showcasing immersion in the sport's nuances.

Movie and TV projects the guests have worked on

Pauvonic discusses filming "The Silent Service," Amazon's first Japanese original movie set on submarines, and the challenges of filming in cramped spaces as a tall actor.

He shares harrowing experiences shooting "Zero Contact" in Antarctica's harsh conditions: constant sunlight, extreme cold, staying in tents, navigating storms, and seasickness.

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  • Carolla and his guests are talking about the decline in airline services, such as reduced beverage offerings on flights, which they suspect is due to cost-cutting measures. They also touch on broader labor shortages across industries, noting a reluctance to work, especially among younger generations. This discussion highlights concerns about the impact of labor shortages on service quality in the airline and service industries.
  • Businesses pressuring for higher tips can manifest in various ways, such as suggesting tip amounts or automatically adding service charges. This practice can make customers feel obligated to tip more than they might have intended. It can create discomfort for patrons who may feel compelled to comply with suggested tip amounts, impacting the genuine nature of gratuities.
  • Vintage pornography typically features performers with natural appearances, while modern porn often showcases surgically-enhanced aesthetics. Vintage stars didn't anticipate the long-lasting impact of their work due to the digital distribution of content. The shift from vintage to modern porn reflects changing beauty standards and technological advancements in the adult entertainment industry. The suggestion of a "porn concierge" service aims to help viewers navigate the vast array of modern porn content available today.

Counterarguments

  • Southwest's lack of beverage service could be due to logistical challenges or health concerns, not necessarily cost-cutting.
  • Invoking "safety" and "turbulence" might sometimes be legitimate reasons for reduced services on flights.
  • Labor shortages may be influenced by factors beyond a reluctance to work, such as changing career preferences or inadequate compensation.
  • The pressure for higher tips could be a response to the rising cost of living, with service workers relying on tips due to low base wages.
  • Mandatory service charges could be an attempt to ensure fair distribution of tips among staff.
  • Expectations of quality service need to be balanced with understanding of the challenges faced by service industries, especially during labor shortages.
  • Some may argue that modern aesthetics in pornography reflect changing societal standards and individual choices.
  • Vintage stars' lack of foresight regarding the permanence of their work could be seen as a broader issue of privacy and consent in the digital age.
  • A "porn concierge" service might raise concerns about further commodification of sexual content and potential privacy issues.
  • While knowledge of boxing history is valuable, it's important to also acknowledge the sport's evolution and current athletes.
  • Filming challenges in unique environments like submarines or Antarctica can lead to innovative filmmaking techniques and storytelling.

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Airline/service industry issues and labor shortages

Adam Carolla, Angelo Tsarouchas, and other commentators address the decline in services offered by airlines such as Southwest and broader labor issues affecting various industries.

Decline in beverage service and amenities on Southwest flights, with pilots and passengers reporting suspected cost-cutting measures

Adam Carolla noticed the cessation of beverage service on his Southwest flights, suspecting it's due to cost-cutting measures rather than safety concerns. Angelo Tsarouchas notes that these cutbacks are also evident in the reduction of snacks offered on flights. Excuses such as anticipated turbulence are frequently given for the lack of service, with pilots via direct messages admitting that flight attendants commonly invent such reasons as opposed to encountering actual choppy conditions.

Pattern of airlines using "safety" and "turbulence" as pretexts to reduce services

A pattern emerges where airlines, such as Southwest, are accused of exploiting "safety" and "turbulence" as justifications to trim down on services like beverage distribution. Carolla complains about these recurrent excuses for no service on flights and desires more straightforwardness from airlines. Pilots have indirectly confirmed that excuses to avoid providing services are becoming more frequent.

Across industries, workers - especially younger generations - are reluctant to work or lack necessary skills

In discussing this trend with Bode Strout, Adam Carolla relays a widespread labor shortage that extends beyond airline services into skilled trades like mechanics and fabricators. This shortage is evident in various locations, including California, Arizona, and North Carolina. There is a perception that younger generations display a reluctance towards traditional work. Carolla gives a personal anecdote about his children, his daughter working as a greeter and his son being unemployed, which may reflect the diverse levels of employment participa ...

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  • Adam Carolla is a well-known American comedian, actor, and podcast host who often discusses a wide range of topics, including social issues and current events. Angelo Tsarouchas is a Canadian stand-up comedian and actor known for his observational humor and commentary on various aspects of society. While they are not specifically known as experts in the airline or service industry, they provide commentary and insights on these topics based on their experiences and observations.
  • The connection between labor shortages and the decline in services offered by airlines is that the shortage of workers, especially in industries like airlines, can lead to reduced services as companies struggle to meet customer demands with limited staff. This can result in cutbacks in amenities like beverage service on flights as airlines may not have enough personnel to provide full services to passengers. Labor shortages can impact various industries, including the service sector, leading to challenges in maintaining the same level of service quality due to a lack of available workforce.
  • The labor shortage issue mentioned in the text highlights a situation where there are not enough workers to fill available job positions across various industries. This shortage is affecting industries like airlines and skilled trades, leading to challenges in providing services and completing tasks efficiently. Younger generations are often cited as being less interested in traditional work roles, contributing to the labor shortage. The impa ...

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  • The decline in services offered by airlines may not solely be due to cost-cutting measures but could also be influenced by health and safety protocols, especially if the text was written in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic or similar health concerns.
  • Airlines might argue that the reduction in amenities is a response to changing consumer preferences, with many passengers preferring lower ticket prices over additional services.
  • The use of "safety" and "turbulence" as reasons for reduced service could be valid in some cases, as flight attendants and pilots are trained to prioritize passenger safety over service.
  • The perception that younger generations are reluctant to work might overlook broader economic and social factors influencing employment choices, such as the pursuit of higher education or the desire for jobs with better work-life balance.
  • Labor shortages in skilled trades could be attributed to a variety of factors, including the retirement of older workers, lack of vocational training programs, or the appeal of technology-oriented careers.
  • The increase in tipping expectations and service charges could be seen as a necessary adjustment for service workers to earn a living wage, especially in regions with a high cost of living.
  • Businesses might use tipping prompts to provide clarity and convenience ...

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Vintage vs. modern pornography

Adam Carolla and Angelo Tsarouchas delve into the nuances between vintage and modern pornography, discussing the evolution of industry aesthetics, the expectations of stars from each era, and the potential for curation services in the current vast landscape of adult content.

Differences in expectations and experiences for vintage porn stars versus today's performers

Vintage pornography was characterized by performers who resembled "civilians" or "real people," avoiding the surgically enhanced appearance prevalent in today’s industry. Carolla notes a preference for vintage performers for their natural look, free from modifications like "ass filler" and excessive tattoos. The performers from the 1960s and 1970s conveyed an attainable allure, unlike the often altered, less realistic modern performers.

Yet, vintage porn stars encountered unexpected permanence of their work with the digital revolution. Tsarouchas points out that iconic stars like Ron Jeremy never foresaw the widespread distribution that the internet would facilitate. Carolla agrees, referencing the "analog" mindset of past performers who didn't anticipate the reach and permanence their work would achieve through digital technology.

The hosts see this as a sharp divide between eras in the expectations of privacy and the reach of performers' work. They enter a discussion about the visibility and normalization of adult content today, contrasting it with its secretive and limited accessibility in the past. European adult films from the vintage era are noted by Carolla for their classy, high production quality, often shot in lavish settings like castles. This aesthetics contrasts with many of today's productions, which may utilize more mundane filming locations.

Vintage porn often consisted of short vignettes with a "civilian" aesthetic, versus today's highly produced, specialized content

Also discussed is the shift from the short "loops" or vignettes characteristic of vintage adult content, sometimes accompanied by music rather than dialogue, to today's specialized and highly produced films. These vintage shorts evoke a sense of nostalgia and taboo reminisced by those who experienced them during their youth.

Difficulty of vintage porn stars in predicting the widespread digital distribution and permanence of their work

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  • Vintage pornography often featured performers with a more natural, unaltered appearance, resembling everyday people. In contrast, modern pornography often showcases performers with surgically enhanced features and elaborate tattoos. The shift in aesthetics reflects changing beauty standards and preferences in the adult entertainment industry over time.
  • Vintage porn stars from the 1960s and 1970s did not anticipate the widespread digital distribution that the internet would enable for their work. This lack of foresight contrasts with the limited accessibility and privacy of their era. The permanence and global reach of their content via smartphones and the internet were unforeseen by many performers from that time. This unexpected shift highlights a sharp divide in the expectations and experiences of porn stars across different eras.
  • Vintage European adult films were noted for their classy and high production quality, often filmed in luxurious settings like castles. This aesthetic contrasted w ...

Counterarguments

  • While vintage porn stars may have had a more natural appearance, it's important to recognize that beauty standards and personal choices regarding body modifications have evolved, and what is considered attractive or desirable can vary greatly among individuals and cultures.
  • The idea that vintage performers did not anticipate the digital permanence of their work could be countered by noting that many performers in any era may not fully consider the long-term implications of their actions, regardless of the industry.
  • The assertion that vintage European adult films had high production quality and lavish settings could be challenged by noting that not all vintage films met these standards, and there were also low-budget productions in the past, just as there are high-quality productions today.
  • The contrast between vintage short vignettes and today's highly produced content might overlook the diversity within each era; there has always been a range of production values and styles in adult content, from amateur to professional.
  • The difficulty of vintage porn stars in predicting the widespread digital distribution of their work could be seen as a broader issue of how society and technology evolve ...

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Boxing history and culture

Aleks Pauvonic shares his wealth of knowledge in boxing’s rich past, with a passionate focus on heavyweight boxing, particularly in the decades of the 1970s and 1980s.

Detailed knowledge and appreciation for boxing's history, particularly heavyweight champions and storylines from the 1970s-1980s

Pauvonic shows a strong connection to the era of boxing history that included greats like Muhammad Ali, his personal favorite. He boasts thorough knowledge of the sport, proven by his ability to recall obscure 1980s boxing matches and evident in his discussion on boxing with Adam Carolla. Meanwhile, Carolla brings up Mike Tyson and his deep study of boxing history from the 1930s, highlighting how legends of the sport often draw inspiration from their predecessors.

Memories of working as a boxing coach and training clients, including notable fighters like Mike Weaver

Adam Carolla reminisces about his time as a boxing coach at Bodies in Motion, where he taught boxing techniques like proper stance, weight shifting, and hip turning. He contrasts his teaching methods with those of fellow coach Mike Weaver, the heavyweight boxer who demonstrated a more natural approach to boxing. Carolla touches on Weaver's fights, such as his victory over Bert Cooper in 1993 for the NBA heavyweight title and a match against Larry Holmes in November 2000, where Weaver, known for his Adonis-like ph ...

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  • Aleks Pauvonic's specific focus on heavyweight boxing history showcases his deep interest in the most prestigious division in boxing, known for producing iconic champions like Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson. Pauvonic's passion for the heavyweight category of boxing, particularly in the 1970s and 1980s, highlights his expertise in the era when the division was at its peak in terms of talent and global interest. His detailed knowledge and appreciation for the heavyweight champions and storylines from this period demonstrate his dedication to understanding the nuances and significance of this specific segment of boxing history.
  • In the context of boxing, "obscure 1980s boxing matches" typically refer to lesser-known or less publicized fights that took place during the 1980s. These matches may involve lesser-known boxers or have occurred on undercards of major events, making them less prominent in boxing history compared to high-profile bouts involving famous fighters. Understanding these matches can provide insights into the broader landscape of boxing during that era.
  • Adam Carolla worked as a boxing coach at Bodies in Motion, where he taught boxing techniques and trained clients. He contrasted his coaching style with that of fellow coach Mike Weaver, a former heavyweight boxer. Carolla's coaching focused on fundamentals like stance, weight shifting, and hip turning. Weaver, known for his natural approach to boxing, had notable victories in his career.
  • Mike Weaver is a former professional boxer known for his successful career in the heavyweight divis ...

Counterarguments

  • While Pauvonic's focus on heavyweight boxing from the 1970s and 1980s is commendable, it could be argued that this emphasis may overlook the significance of other weight classes and eras that have also contributed richly to the sport's history.
  • Pauvonic's ability to recall obscure matches from the 1980s is impressive, but one might argue that a comprehensive understanding of boxing should also include current developments and emerging talents in the sport.
  • Carolla's memories of coaching boxing techniques are valuable, but the effectiveness of his methods compared to those of Mike Weaver is subjective and could vary depending on the individual boxer's style and needs.
  • While Mike Weaver's natural approach and abstention from steroids are highlighted, it's important to acknowledge that not all successful boxers from that era may have had the same commitment to natural athleticism, and the issue of performance-enhancing drugs in sports is complex and multifaceted.
  • The discussion of obscure boxing trivia, such as Joe Hipp's knee brace, is interesting, but one could argue tha ...

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Movie and TV projects the guests have worked on

Aleks Pauvonic shares his experiences of working on the Japanese-set Amazon original film "The Silent Service" and the challenges of filming in the harsh conditions of Antarctica for "Zero Contact" and other projects.

Experiences filming the Japanese-set Amazon original film "The Silent Service" on submarines

"The Silent Service," based on a manga show from the 80s and turned into a live-action film, marks Amazon’s first Japanese original movie. Aleks Pauvonic plays Admiral Steiger in the film, which revolves around a rogue Japanese submarine with a nuclear weapon onboard and the ensuing power struggle. The film is compared to "The Hunt for Red October" for its similar themes of uncertainty and rogue actions.

Challenges of filming in cramped submarine settings as a tall actor

Pauvonic, standing at 6 foot 5, highlighted the difficulties of filming in the confined spaces of submarines due to his height. Crew members had to carry around apple boxes for hair and makeup sessions, which made him feel awkward. Fortunately, his role mainly took place on the SS Ronald Reagan, an aircraft carrier, sparing him from the need to squeeze into a submarine.

Harrowing experiences filming in the harsh conditions of Antarctica for "Zero Contact" and other projects

While working on "Zero Contact," which starred Sir Anthony Hopkins and was filmed in Antarctica at United Glaciers, Pauvonic described the extreme conditions they faced: constant sunlight, no plant life, and the necessity of winter gear and sleeping bags despite summertime filming. Pauvonic also endured a stint in the Drake Passage, suffering from significant seasickness.

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  • "The Silent Service" is compared to "The Hunt for Red October" due to similar themes of uncertainty and rogue actions in a submarine setting. Both stories involve tense situations surrounding submarines and nuclear weapons, creating a sense of suspense and intrigue for the audience. The comparison highlights the thrilling and high-stakes nature of these types of narratives set in the confined and secretive world of submarine operations.
  • The SS Ronald Reagan mentioned in the text is not an actual submarine but an aircraft carrier. Aircraft carriers are large warships designed to carry and deploy aircraft for military operations at sea. They serve as mobile airbases, allowing for air support and defense in naval operations. The mention of the SS Ronald Reagan in the context of filming on submarines indicates that the actor's scenes in the movie took place on the aircraft carrier, not in the cramped confines of a submarine.
  • The Drake Passage is a body of water between South America and Antarctica known for its rough seas and strong currents. It is a crucial route for ships traveling between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. The passage is named after the English explorer Sir Francis Drake.
  • In the context of the text, "The Thing" is a science fiction horror film directed by John Carpenter, released i ...

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