From his time on Saturday Night Live to maintaining health in his later years, comedian Kevin Nealon provides an inside look at the comedy industry and life as a performer in this episode of the 2 Bears, 1 Cave podcast. Nealon reflects on the immense pressure of pitching sketches to get laughs at SNL, collaborating with comedy legends like Steve Martin, and the mentorship he received from Gary Shandling.
The conversation also covers personal topics like Nealon's experience with aging, his efforts to stay physically active, creative pursuits like illustration and podcasting, and vices like a love for sweets. Kreischer and Nealon touch on their respective health journeys, from concerns about cognitive decline and dementia to comprehensive approaches involving supplements and medical professionals.
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Nealon reminisces about his time on SNL, where he was hired as both a writer and performer. He felt immense pressure pitching sketches to get laughs. Nealon collaborated with comedy legends like Steve Martin and Dana Carvey, who recommended him to SNL.
Nealon and Bert Kreischer discuss seeking approval from veteran comedians and SNL producer Lorne Michaels. Nealon was mentored by Gary Shandling, who heavily influenced his career. Nealon eulogized both Shandling and Norm Macdonald, appreciating Macdonald's humor more posthumously.
Nealon shares forgetful moments that led to dementia test concerns from his wife. Kreischer relates, expressing worry about future dementia after Bruce Willis' diagnosis.
Nealon modified his hiking due to joint implants. Kreischer aims to stay mobile through exercise like squats. He details his comprehensive health approach with supplements, IVs, and doctors.
Nealon has a passion for illustrations of comedian experiences and hosts a hiking podcast inviting guests like Conan O'Brien.
Kreischer struggles with alcohol moderation despite healthful goals. Both Nealon and Kreischer admit loving sweet treats like cookies and ice cream.
Kreischer shares a fascination with historical beheadings like Marie Antoinette's. They joke hypothetically about methods of execution.
Nealon has a role in the horror film "Inhabitants," though he didn't read the script beforehand, as well as upcoming documentary and series projects.
1-Page Summary
Kevin Nealon reminisces about his memorable era on "Saturday Night Live" (SNL) and the pressures of comedy as well as his relationships with comedic legends and his reflections on the legacies of Gary Shandling and Norm Macdonald.
Nealon shares memorable times and the intense dynamics from his tenure at SNL.
Nealon was hired as both a writer and a performer for SNL and remarkably appeared in every show of his guaranteed seven, writing mainly for himself. He reflects on the tight-knit original cast and contrasts this with today's larger ensembles.
Nealon describes the pressure of pitching sketches, sometimes repeatedly avoiding discouragement from unresponsive pitches. His go-to idea was about a runaway truck ramp ending at a bar.
Nealon fondly recalls working with icons including Steve Martin, Mick Jagger, and James Taylor, as well as forming close bonds with his peers, like Dana Carvey who recommended him to SNL. He deeply appreciated the underrated talent and beauty of cast member Jan Hooks.
Nealon explores the themes of mentors, memorials, and seeking validation within the comedy industry.
Prompted by fellow comedian Bert Kreischer, Nealon discusses seeking approval from veteran comics and long-time SNL producer Lorne Michaels—even in daily life—highlighting the grand impact of his SNL tenure. Kr ...
Experiences in the Comedy Industry
As individuals age, concerns about memory and cognitive abilities, as well as maintaining health and physical fitness, become increasingly important. Kevin Nealon and Bert Kreischer dive into these topics, detailing personal anecdotes and strategies for combating age-related challenges.
Nealon recalls concerning moments of forgetfulness, such as leaving the stove on and misplacing the milk, which led to his wife suggesting a dementia test. Despite these instances, he expresses reluctance to undergo testing due to fear of a positive diagnosis, especially considering the lack of a cure. Nealon also describes his struggle to remember actor Lee Majors' name, an example of how short-term memory can falter with age.
Kreischer relates to Nealon's experiences, sharing similar forgetful moments like leaving the remote in the fridge. Both discuss the fear of dementia, with Kreischer expressing concern after hearing about Bruce Willis' diagnosis and reflecting on his own memory retention. Despite these worries, Kreischer considers that he might be a hypochondriac but still stresses the importance of remaining aware of cognitive health.
Nealon, who has four joint implants due to arthritis, talks about the shift in his hiking activities, moving from intense treks to gentler strolls to accommodate his condition. Kreischer acknowledges a weight gain over time and expresses a desire to feel comfortable with basic movements, such as getting out of bed, highlighting that health transcends mere aesthetics.
Both reminisce about past athletic endeavors but acknowledge the toll these activities have taken on their bodies, with Nealon eschewing running due to its impact on his joints and Kreischer focusing on maintaining muscle mass for mobility.
Kreischer underlines the importance of exercise, including squats, to stay strong and agile. He highlights his dedication to working out every day, demonstrating that consistent effort in fitness can help fend off the decline that comes wi ...
Aging, Health, and Physical Fitness
Kevin Nealon and Bert Kreischer dive into a candid chat about their off-stage pursuits and temptations, revealing another layer to their comedic personas.
Nealon divulges his long-standing hobby of drawing illustrations, initially as doodles, and now with more serious intent. He has had gallery showings where he's shared his works involving experiences with other celebrities, such as Prince, Dana Carvey, and Howard Stern. One such piece he discusses depicted Conan O'Brien, where he focused on the upper parts of his face, sparking a humorous notion about the heads at Mount Rushmore being too large to include the bodies.
In addition to illustration, Nealon hosts a hiking podcast where he invites various personalities to join him. His experiences on the trails are varied, with reactions from guests like Conan O'Brien and Bobcat Goldthwait, and David Spade's refusal to hike due to a bad back.
Kreischer admits to a tug-of-war between healthful aspirations and his penchant for drinking. Despite being known for his alcohol consumption, he shares that cutting back on his intake left him feeling phenomenal, which led him to reconsider total abstinence. Kreischer has managed to cut back drastically on drinking but finds complete restraint challenging.
Personal Habits, Preferences, and Hobbies
Kevin Nealon and Bert Kreischer engage in lively discussions ranging from the dark historical interest in beheadings to Nealon's roles in acting and his upcoming projects.
During their discussion, Kreischer shares his fascination with beheadings, particularly historical events like Marie Antoinette's execution. Nealon and Kreischer contemplate the use of an axe for beheadings and even joke about the method of execution they might choose. While they both express an interest in such gruesome topics, they admit hesitance in watching gory materials. Nealon, with a touch of humor, makes light of the posthumous beheading of Oliver Cromwell, and in a humorous turn, Kreischer muses about the impracticality of using paper cuts as a means of beheading.
A hypothetical discussion about beheading ensues, revealing Kreischer’s interest in beheading stories like that of Marie Antoinette, including details such as her wig falling off. He imagines using a big axe but doubts he could actually carry out such an act. Nealon chuckles at the idea of beheading Oliver Cromwell after his death and jests about the methods he might use for a hypothetical beheading, including slow cuts or large scissors, while Bert jokes about the inefficiency of utilizing paper cuts.
Discussing his career, Nealon expresses his primary passion for stand-up comedy but acknowledges that he has acting endeavors. He humorously recounts an experience of recognizing himself in a trailer for a horror film called "Inhabitants," a surprising moment given ...
Miscellaneous Topics and Hypotheticals
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