Join comedian Ari Shaffir as he discusses his new Netflix stand-up special with podcast hosts Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer in this episode of 2 Bears, 1 Cave. The conversation spans celebrity relationships and the challenges artists face in maintaining normalcy amid fame.
The hosts provide insights on America's healthcare system and the role of insurance. They also explore conspiracy theories circulating on unreliable sources, delving into the psychology behind truly evil individuals and serial killers. Through dark humor, they ponder what motivates such heinous acts, leaving listeners to reflect on the nature of violence and humanity's capacity for malice.
Sign up for Shortform to access the whole episode summary along with additional materials like counterarguments and context.
Ari Shaffir is ecstatic about the upcoming premiere of his new stand-up comedy special, "America's Sweetheart," on Netflix. He expresses no interest in the business side, simply wanting his work to reach as wide an audience as possible.
The hosts discuss how Zach Bryan's fame and wealth likely strained his relationship with Brianna, as Bert Kreischer suggests Brianna got caught up in the celebrity lifestyle. After their breakup, Brianna shared details about their issues publicly—often frowned upon—rejecting Zach's $12 million offer to stay silent.
Kreischer and Tom Segura note how top artists exist in an altered reality disconnected from normal life, making healthy relationships challenging to maintain.
Ari Shaffir and Segura share insights on US healthcare. Segura explains how those with means can bypass insurance for expedited care, while most rely on insurance plans which can be limiting.
Bert Kreischer recounts trouble getting proper treatment for a kidney infection, while Segura had a positive experience with his wife's cancer diagnosis covered efficiently.
The hosts react humorously to the bizarre, pseudoscientific content on a sketchy "alternative news" site pushing conspiracy theories like "Michelle Obama is a man."
Bert recalls facing accusations of insensitivity and promoting conspiracies after making ill-timed jokes that were misinterpreted.
The speakers attempt to comprehend the psychology of truly evil people and serial killers. Ari Shaffir and Tom Segura recount chilling cases like the BTK killer.
Bert Kreischer shares his confusion about the mindset that would drive a childhood acquaintance to later become a killer, recalling disturbing signs from a young age.
The hosts dark-humoredly ponder what drives killers, speculating about the strange satisfaction of asserting power over life itself.
1-Page Summary
Ari Shaffir is thrilled about the release of his upcoming stand-up comedy special on Netflix.
Ari Shaffir's new special, "America's Sweetheart," is set to premiere on Netflix on January 14th. The special, which promises to showcase Ari's unique comedic style, was recorded in April in Washington DC.
Ari conveys a sense of liberation when discussing the release, indicating his disinterest in the business side of comedy. His focus is not on the platform or the intricacies of the comedy industry ...
Ari Shaffir's New Netflix Special
Discussions among podcast hosts delve into the complexities of celebrity relationships within the music industry, particularly the pressures fame and wealth can have on personal connections.
The relationship between Brianna, a public figure with her own podcast, and country singer Zach Bryan had received significant public attention. Bert Kreischer suggests that Brianna’s experience was unique due to Zach's position as number eight on the worldwide top touring artist list. Kreischer hints that this status may have led to Zach being a poor boyfriend and that Brianna got confused between loving a person and enjoying the lifestyle associated with hanging out with a successful artist, such as flying private and having meals prepared.
Bert Kreischer discusses how Zach Bryan's rise to fame made him a bad boyfriend, potentially resulting in an imbalanced relationship. Ari Shaffir and Kreischer consider how the dynamic between Zach and Brianna would have been different if Zack was not successful in music, theorizing that Zach would have been more eager to please her. The pressures of fame and performing at arenas were suggested to have contributed to the strain on their relationship.
After their breakup, Zach reportedly offered Brianna $12 million to never talk about their relationship again—indicating the tumultuous nature of their ending—but Brianna already recorded everything, possibly alluding to private conversations or events. She chose not to accept the offer, deciding instead that her story needed to be shared. She went on Dave Portnoy's BFFs podcast to discuss the breakup, seeking downloads and attention. Despite the negative view often held regarding the airing of post-breakup issues, Brianna 'slammed' Zach aggressively on her show, shedding light on their private matters.
Celebrity Relationships and the Music Industry
Ari Shaffir and Tom Segura engage in a discussion about health care and insurance in the U.S., sharing insights from their own personal experiences with medical providers and insurance plans.
Ari Shaffir begins by expressing annoyance with having to visit different doctors, pointing towards a system that can be frustrating for many. Tom Segura elaborates on this point, adding that people with means can bypass these frustrations by affording to pay out of pocket for expedited services at places like the Mayo Clinic. He also mentions a situation with his pet where when he claimed he couldn't afford the initial cost of veterinary care, it was reduced significantly.
Tom Segura brings attention to the major issues people face when claims are denied, even in life-threatening situations. Tom recognizes the benefits of being able to pay out-of-pocket for medical expenses but acknowledges that most people rely on what their insurance plan allows.
Bert Kreischer shares his frustrating experience ...
Health Care and Insurance
The speakers delve into the world of "alternative news" websites known for spreading conspiracy theories and pseudoscience, and Bert Kreischer shares his personal anecdotes about being implicated in controversial social media discussions.
Ari Shaffir introduces his friends to googlealternativenews.com, a site he found out about through someone who believed in its content, including far-fetched conspiracy theories.
Upon visiting the website, Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura are taken aback by the bizarre topics, like one suggesting that Michelle Obama is a man. The speakers react with humor and sarcasm to the stories they find, which range from police officers involved in a fatal gun-drawing game to other incredulous articles, highlighting the untrustworthiness and the outdated content of the site.
They mock the website’s amateurish design, likening it to a learning project in HTML, demonstrating its apparent lack of professionalism and credibility.
Bert Kreischer recounts the backlash he faced from black Twitter for unwittingly joining a hashtag stream. Intended as comedic trolling, his foray resulted in death threats and accusations that escalated quickly due to the sensitive nature of social media.
Conspiracy Theories and Alternative News
Ari Shaffir, Bert Kreischer, and Tom Segura dive into a chilling discussion about the concept of evil, examining the behavior of known serial killers and contemplating the mindset of people who commit heinous acts.
The conversation opens with Shaffir and Kreischer struggling to comprehend real evil as they reflect on notorious figures like Bill Cosby and Jared from Subway. They dabble in the lighter side of betrayal with a humorous nod to the deceit of faking dietary habits, contrasting it with the dark subject of understanding evil actions.
Ari and Tom reveal unsettling anecdotes, such as the BTK killer, an employee of ADT security systems, who would use his job to scout out potential victims. They discuss a curious Netflix show depicting a murderer who almost kills his victims and then stops, apologizing and recommending they get a dog for safety. Drawing from this, Tom shares about a comedian-cop who would give women security tips after intimate encounters, such as suggesting better window locks.
The group humorously muses that just the thought of being capable of murder is akin to the act itself. This notion brings a twisted sense of satisfaction when facing confrontations in day-to-day life. Kreischer, for instance, talks about an instance where he wished he had confronted a bartender more aggressively after an uncomfortable encounter, rather than taking the high road.
The speakers venture into dark humor, proposing outlandish ways Bert could get back at the rude bartender, like accusing her of absurd offenses. They even joke about the idea of recognizing a past Nazi, comparing such historical evil to the wrongdoing they felt from others.
Kreischer touches upon his confusion about the rationale of a killer, imagining the strange satisfaction someone might get from having power over another's life. He recounts growing up with a person who later became a killer targeting prostitutes on a Tampa causeway. Kreischer recalls a disturbing childhood incident involving the individual’s desire to deface women's underwear.
In a more personal ane ...
Violence, Murder, and Evil People
Download the Shortform Chrome extension for your browser