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Bert HIJACKED The Emmys Party | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

By Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer

In this episode of 2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer, the comedians open up about various aspects of their personal and professional lives. They reflect on navigating industry events and socializing, sharing their contrasting approaches and comfort levels.

The conversation also touches on cultural awareness and self-perception. Bert explores his complex relationship with body image stemming from past obesity, while Tom discusses techniques for maintaining self-confidence. Additionally, they delve into the nature of stand-up comedy and performance, contemplating the nuances of touring and connecting with audiences.

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Industry events and socializing

Bert Kreischer describes feeling overwhelmed at high-profile events like the Emmys, where his enthusiasm leads to oversharing and inappropriate interactions with celebrities. He attends industry parties but often feels more comfortable in smaller groups doing activities like smoking with comedian friends.

Tom Segura, on the other hand, avoids such events altogether, preferring to maintain a low profile focused on his inner circle rather than seeking approval from acquaintances or strangers.

Music preferences and cultural awareness

Bert expresses enjoyment of "narco-corridos," a Mexican music genre depicting violent stories of drug cartels, though he admits limited comprehension of the lyrics. Tom cautions about potential accusations of insensitivity, as the genre is rooted in serious criminal contexts unfamiliar to Bert.

Personal self-perception and self-confidence

Bert reflects on his complex relationship with body image stemming from past obesity, still grappling with insecurities that sometimes lead to unhealthy coping behaviors like overeating. Tom is more comfortable with his public persona but also experiences self-doubt, using techniques like positive self-talk to counteract critical thoughts about his physique.

Comedy and the nature of performance

Bert contemplates his eventual return to regular stand-up, debating between an intensive club circuit or more focused theater shows which he favors for their energetic, intimate setting. Tom underscores the value of balanced touring to sustain excitement, strategically scaling back cities to avoid burnout.

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Counterarguments

  • While Bert Kreischer may feel overwhelmed at events like the Emmys, it could be argued that such events are valuable networking opportunities that can lead to career growth, and learning to navigate them could be beneficial.
  • Tom Segura's preference for avoiding industry events and focusing on his inner circle might limit his exposure to new opportunities and collaborations that could arise from broader industry engagement.
  • Enjoying "narco-corridos" music without fully understanding the lyrics could be seen as a missed opportunity for cultural education, and Bert might benefit from learning more about the context and stories behind the music.
  • While Bert's insecurities about his body image are valid, it could be argued that public figures like him have a platform to promote body positivity and could use their experiences to inspire others to embrace their own bodies.
  • Tom's use of positive self-talk is a good strategy, but it's also important to acknowledge that self-doubt can sometimes be a signal to re-evaluate one's goals or methods, rather than just a negative thought to be countered.
  • Bert's preference for theater shows over an intensive club circuit might limit his exposure to a wider audience that could be reached through more frequent performances in various venues.
  • Tom's emphasis on balanced touring to avoid burnout is sensible, but it's also possible that a more aggressive touring schedule could be managed effectively with proper support and planning, potentially leading to greater career momentum.

Actionables

  • Create a personalized playlist of international music genres to explore different cultures sonically while researching the lyrics and contexts to appreciate the art form responsibly.
  • By curating a playlist with music from various cultures, you can immerse yourself in new sounds and rhythms. Take the time to look up translations and background information about the songs and genres to gain a deeper understanding and ensure you're aware of the cultural significance and potential sensitivities associated with the music you're enjoying.
  • Develop a self-affirmation routine by writing down positive attributes and achievements, then reciting them during moments of self-doubt.
  • Crafting a list of your positive qualities and past successes can serve as a powerful tool to combat negative self-talk. Whenever you catch yourself being overly critical, take out your list and remind yourself of your strengths and accomplishments. This can help shift your focus from self-doubt to self-appreciation.
  • Strategically plan social engagements to align with your comfort levels, opting for smaller, more intimate gatherings over large, high-pressure events.
  • Assess your social preferences and plan accordingly. If large events feel overwhelming, organize or attend smaller get-togethers where you can enjoy meaningful conversations and activities that you find relaxing. This approach allows you to socialize on your terms and create an environment where you feel at ease.

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Industry events and socializing

Navigating high-profile industry events can be a complex and overwhelming experience, especially for personalities like Bert Kreischer, who often finds himself grappling with social dynamics and his own enthusiasm.

Bert Kreischer talks about his fascinating, yet humbling experience at the Emmys, pointing out that the event primarily celebrates the nominees and winners, including non-famous individuals like grips who won Emmys and bring their awards to the parties. Bert humorously notes that if he ever won an Emmy, he'd wear it like a medallion around his neck. At these events, Bert wears his extraversion on his sleeve—even carrying his own large cup of vodka to the UTA party, eliciting mistaken suspicions from Timothy Oliphant that he was drinking lean. The presence of celebrities like Ron Howard clearly overwhelms him, leading to excited and sometimes inappropriate interactions.

Bert describes his experience at the Emmys and various industry parties, where he sometimes feels out of place and overwhelmed by the social dynamics.

He attended multiple events, including UTA's party, Netflix's party, and a Disney party hosted by his sister. Despite feeling out of place and the pressure to maintain a certain image, such as fretting over his appearance in different suits on consecutive nights, Bert tends to gravitate towards environments where he can be himself—like hanging out with Jeff Ross and others from the Brady roast, smoking weed at the back, rather than engaging with the wider party.

Bert's eagerness to connect with others, such as trying to discuss niche musical genres, can lead to awkward social situations if not approached carefully.

His way of connecting involves unfiltered expression, such as enthusiastically commenting on the food or jumping into a conversation about FaceTiming, where his known habit of answering every call is validated by others' experiences. However, Bert’s candid nature sometimes creates discomfort, like when ...

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  • You can create a personal excitement meter to gauge your level of enthusiasm before entering social events. Before attending an event, take a moment to assess your excitement on a scale from 1 to 10. If you find yourself above a 7, practice deep breathing or mindfulness to calm your nerves. This can help you enter the event with a more balanced demeanor, reducing the likelihood of oversharing.
  • Develop a set of conversation anchors to keep social interactions comfortable and within your control. Think of three to five topics you're comfortable discussing and that are universally relatable, such as recent movies, books, or travel destinations. When you feel a conversation veering into territory that might lead to awkwardness, steer it back to one of your anchors.
  • Establish a personal networking goal ...

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Music preferences and cultural awareness

Bert Kreischer's exploration of "narco-corridos," a niche Mexican musical genre, demonstrates the complexities of engaging with cultural artifacts beyond one's own cultural experience.

Bert's fascination with "narco-corridos"

Bert Kreischer expresses his enjoyment of the rhythm and musicality of a genre he's recently discovered, despite not understanding the lyrics, which can be graphic and illustrative of the violent realities of drug cartels.

The appeal and challenges of engaging with "narco-corridos"

Bert enjoys the energetic beats of narco-corridos and often gets excited when he is able to recognize a word in the songs. His enjoyment primarily stems from the musical elements rather than the lyrical content, which he admits he does not fully understand.

Tom Segura identifies this music as a very specific Mexican genre, which garners a certain reputation because of its content. Bert mentions that he likes this music for moments like pulling up to a valet, prompting Tom to caution Bert about potential accusations of racial insensitivity.

Bert acknowledges he’s unsure if his preference lies specifically with narco-corridos or with corridos in general due to his limited comprehension of the lyrics. Despite this uncertainty, Bert notes that many narco-corrido artists have ...

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Counterarguments

  • Appreciation of music is subjective, and one's enjoyment of a genre does not necessarily require a deep understanding of the lyrics or cultural context.
  • The enjoyment of musical elements over lyrical content is common across many genres and not unique to narco-corridos.
  • While narco-corridos have a reputation for their content, it is important not to generalize or stigmatize a genre based on certain themes, as it can be diverse and have different subthemes and messages.
  • Bert's uncertainty about his preference for narco-corridos or corridos in general could be seen as an opportunity for cultural exploration and education rather than a point of criticism.
  • The fact that many narco-corrido artists have been murdered is a reflection of the complex socio-political issues in the regions where these genres originate, and it should not be used to define the genre as a whole.
  • Mentioning names, dates, and explicit accounts of violent acts in songs is not exclusive to narco-corridos and can ...

Actionables

  • You can explore the emotional impact of music by creating a playlist of songs in languages you don't understand and noting how each track makes you feel. This can help you understand the influence of melody and rhythm on your emotions, similar to how one might enjoy narco-corridos for their musicality. For example, pair a narco-corrido with a French chanson and a Korean ballad, and write down whether the song energizes you, relaxes you, or evokes any specific emotions.
  • Develop a deeper appreciation for musical genres by researching their historical and cultural contexts through documentaries or articles. This could involve watching a documentary on Mexican music history to better grasp the significance of corridos and narco-corridos within their cultural setting. Understanding the background can enrich your listening experience and provide insight into the genre's nuances.
  • Engage with the music creati ...

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Personal self-perception and self-confidence

Both Bert and Tom address their ongoing battles with body image and self-esteem, highlighting the complex relationship they have with their physical appearance.

Both Bert and Tom struggle with issues of self-perception and self-confidence, particularly when it comes to their bodies and physical appearance.

Bert Kreischer discusses his complicated feelings about his body, reflecting on a time when he was obese yet felt a delusional confidence about his appearance. This hints at a complex relationship with his body image that persists despite his success. Kreischer admits to what he considers "crazy" behavior, like overeating at a Netflix party, which led to feelings of regret, indicating that food and body image continue to be sources of struggle for him.

Tom Segura contemplates his own issues with self-doubt and critical self-talk regarding his physique. He experiences fluctuations in how he perceives his body, sometimes succumbing to negative thoughts while also trying to practice positive self-talk to maintain a balanced perspective. Segura seeks empathy from his wife Christina, instructing her to react contrary to her instincts in order to better support him during episodes of self-loathing.

Bert's past experiences with obesity have left him with a complex relationship with his body image, and he sometimes turns to unhealthy coping mechanisms to manage his insecurities.

Kreischer shares his wish to possess even a fraction of the wild confidence others have, signaling a deficit in self-assuredness about his body. He also quips about how he might come across in conversations, contemplating whether his tendency to remain silent can be misinterpreted as a lack of intelligence or interest, further reflecting his insecurities.

Tom, while more comfortable with his public persona, also experiences periods of self-doubt and critical self-talk, which he tries to counteract through positive self-talk and perspective-taking.

Unlike Bert, Tom discusses his method for dealing with his insecurities, indicating a more structured self-support system. He acknowledges ...

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  • You can create a visual body appreciation journal to foster a positive body image by drawing or pasting pictures of your body and surrounding them with affirmative statements or things you're grateful for about your body. This activity encourages a shift from critical self-perception to recognizing the body's value and functionality beyond aesthetics.
  • Start a 'compliment chain' with friends or family where you regularly exchange genuine compliments about each other's qualities, including non-physical traits, to reinforce the idea that self-worth extends beyond physical appearance. This practice helps to build a supportive community that values diverse aspects of individual ident ...

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Comedy and the nature of performance

During a deep dive into the comedy world, podcast hosts Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura discuss the complexities of navigating their careers, the significance of an energetic stage presence, and the personal uncertainties faced by performers.

The podcast hosts discuss the nuances of navigating the comedy world, including the importance of maintaining a positive and energetic stage presence, even in the face of self-doubt or insecurity.

Bert Kreischer shares his contemplation about returning to the comedy stage, expressing a pause in his road performances to focus on writing. He talks about doing stand-up in Vegas but maintaining a distance from regular touring. Likewise, Kreischer ponders his potential comeback, deliberating over the idea of doing a straight month in clubs or small rock venues, followed by a significant theater run.

Tom Segura, on the other hand, reflects on his own touring strategies, indicating how scaling back the number of cities has restored his joy in performing. Recounting a weekend of shows that stood out as one of the most enjoyable, Segura mentions his upcoming performances in Cleveland, Buffalo, and Toronto, and stresses that a less hectic touring schedule avoids burnout and sustains his excitement.

Bert contemplates the possibility of returning to regular stand-up performances, considering the different approaches of doing extended club runs versus more focused theater shows.

Bert Kreischer expresses uncertainty about when he will make his full return to stand-up. Despite considering an intensive circuit of club performances, Kreischer ultimately signals a preference for theater shows. He recalls the distinct energy of filming a special in a theater and contrasts it with the overwhelming commitment of doing arenas from Wednesday through Sunday.

Kreischer admits a fondness ...

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  • Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura discuss their touring strategies in the comedy world, with Kreischer contemplating a return to stand-up performances focusing on theater shows over club runs, while Segura finds joy in scaling back his tour cities to maintain excitement and avoid burnout. Segura emphasizes the importance of an engaged audience in enhancing a comedian's performance energy, suggesting a balanced touring routine can inject vitality into stand-up acts. Kreischer's preference for intimate theater settings reflects his desire for more focused and personal performances compared to larger arena shows.
  • In comedy shows, a feedback loop between the audience and the performer describes how each influences the other's energy and engagement. When the audience reac ...

Counterarguments

  • While maintaining a positive and energetic stage presence is important, some comedians have successfully cultivated a more subdued or deadpan persona that resonates with their audience.
  • The contemplation of returning to regular stand-up performances might overlook the potential benefits of taking a longer break for personal growth or exploring other creative avenues.
  • Finding the right balance in a touring schedule is subjective and what works for one comedian may not work for another; some performers might thrive on a more rigorous schedule.
  • A preference for theater shows over large arenas could be seen as limiting to a comedian's reach and potential earnings, as larger venues can accommodate more fans and generate more revenue.
  • The feedback loop between an engaged audience and the performer is not the only factor that can enhance a comedian's energy on ...

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