In this episode of 2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer, the comedians open up about various aspects of their personal and professional lives. They reflect on navigating industry events and socializing, sharing their contrasting approaches and comfort levels.
The conversation also touches on cultural awareness and self-perception. Bert explores his complex relationship with body image stemming from past obesity, while Tom discusses techniques for maintaining self-confidence. Additionally, they delve into the nature of stand-up comedy and performance, contemplating the nuances of touring and connecting with audiences.
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Bert Kreischer describes feeling overwhelmed at high-profile events like the Emmys, where his enthusiasm leads to oversharing and inappropriate interactions with celebrities. He attends industry parties but often feels more comfortable in smaller groups doing activities like smoking with comedian friends.
Tom Segura, on the other hand, avoids such events altogether, preferring to maintain a low profile focused on his inner circle rather than seeking approval from acquaintances or strangers.
Bert expresses enjoyment of "narco-corridos," a Mexican music genre depicting violent stories of drug cartels, though he admits limited comprehension of the lyrics. Tom cautions about potential accusations of insensitivity, as the genre is rooted in serious criminal contexts unfamiliar to Bert.
Bert reflects on his complex relationship with body image stemming from past obesity, still grappling with insecurities that sometimes lead to unhealthy coping behaviors like overeating. Tom is more comfortable with his public persona but also experiences self-doubt, using techniques like positive self-talk to counteract critical thoughts about his physique.
Bert contemplates his eventual return to regular stand-up, debating between an intensive club circuit or more focused theater shows which he favors for their energetic, intimate setting. Tom underscores the value of balanced touring to sustain excitement, strategically scaling back cities to avoid burnout.
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Navigating high-profile industry events can be a complex and overwhelming experience, especially for personalities like Bert Kreischer, who often finds himself grappling with social dynamics and his own enthusiasm.
Bert Kreischer talks about his fascinating, yet humbling experience at the Emmys, pointing out that the event primarily celebrates the nominees and winners, including non-famous individuals like grips who won Emmys and bring their awards to the parties. Bert humorously notes that if he ever won an Emmy, he'd wear it like a medallion around his neck. At these events, Bert wears his extraversion on his sleeve—even carrying his own large cup of vodka to the UTA party, eliciting mistaken suspicions from Timothy Oliphant that he was drinking lean. The presence of celebrities like Ron Howard clearly overwhelms him, leading to excited and sometimes inappropriate interactions.
He attended multiple events, including UTA's party, Netflix's party, and a Disney party hosted by his sister. Despite feeling out of place and the pressure to maintain a certain image, such as fretting over his appearance in different suits on consecutive nights, Bert tends to gravitate towards environments where he can be himself—like hanging out with Jeff Ross and others from the Brady roast, smoking weed at the back, rather than engaging with the wider party.
His way of connecting involves unfiltered expression, such as enthusiastically commenting on the food or jumping into a conversation about FaceTiming, where his known habit of answering every call is validated by others' experiences. However, Bert’s candid nature sometimes creates discomfort, like when ...
Industry events and socializing
Bert Kreischer's exploration of "narco-corridos," a niche Mexican musical genre, demonstrates the complexities of engaging with cultural artifacts beyond one's own cultural experience.
Bert Kreischer expresses his enjoyment of the rhythm and musicality of a genre he's recently discovered, despite not understanding the lyrics, which can be graphic and illustrative of the violent realities of drug cartels.
Bert enjoys the energetic beats of narco-corridos and often gets excited when he is able to recognize a word in the songs. His enjoyment primarily stems from the musical elements rather than the lyrical content, which he admits he does not fully understand.
Tom Segura identifies this music as a very specific Mexican genre, which garners a certain reputation because of its content. Bert mentions that he likes this music for moments like pulling up to a valet, prompting Tom to caution Bert about potential accusations of racial insensitivity.
Bert acknowledges he’s unsure if his preference lies specifically with narco-corridos or with corridos in general due to his limited comprehension of the lyrics. Despite this uncertainty, Bert notes that many narco-corrido artists have ...
Music preferences and cultural awareness
Both Bert and Tom address their ongoing battles with body image and self-esteem, highlighting the complex relationship they have with their physical appearance.
Bert Kreischer discusses his complicated feelings about his body, reflecting on a time when he was obese yet felt a delusional confidence about his appearance. This hints at a complex relationship with his body image that persists despite his success. Kreischer admits to what he considers "crazy" behavior, like overeating at a Netflix party, which led to feelings of regret, indicating that food and body image continue to be sources of struggle for him.
Tom Segura contemplates his own issues with self-doubt and critical self-talk regarding his physique. He experiences fluctuations in how he perceives his body, sometimes succumbing to negative thoughts while also trying to practice positive self-talk to maintain a balanced perspective. Segura seeks empathy from his wife Christina, instructing her to react contrary to her instincts in order to better support him during episodes of self-loathing.
Kreischer shares his wish to possess even a fraction of the wild confidence others have, signaling a deficit in self-assuredness about his body. He also quips about how he might come across in conversations, contemplating whether his tendency to remain silent can be misinterpreted as a lack of intelligence or interest, further reflecting his insecurities.
Unlike Bert, Tom discusses his method for dealing with his insecurities, indicating a more structured self-support system. He acknowledges ...
Personal self-perception and self-confidence
During a deep dive into the comedy world, podcast hosts Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura discuss the complexities of navigating their careers, the significance of an energetic stage presence, and the personal uncertainties faced by performers.
Bert Kreischer shares his contemplation about returning to the comedy stage, expressing a pause in his road performances to focus on writing. He talks about doing stand-up in Vegas but maintaining a distance from regular touring. Likewise, Kreischer ponders his potential comeback, deliberating over the idea of doing a straight month in clubs or small rock venues, followed by a significant theater run.
Tom Segura, on the other hand, reflects on his own touring strategies, indicating how scaling back the number of cities has restored his joy in performing. Recounting a weekend of shows that stood out as one of the most enjoyable, Segura mentions his upcoming performances in Cleveland, Buffalo, and Toronto, and stresses that a less hectic touring schedule avoids burnout and sustains his excitement.
Bert Kreischer expresses uncertainty about when he will make his full return to stand-up. Despite considering an intensive circuit of club performances, Kreischer ultimately signals a preference for theater shows. He recalls the distinct energy of filming a special in a theater and contrasts it with the overwhelming commitment of doing arenas from Wednesday through Sunday.
Kreischer admits a fondness ...
Comedy and the nature of performance
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